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  • jpdavis82
    All Star
    • Sep 2005
    • 8697

    #16
    Re: Packers Panthers (Toke)

    Originally posted by BleedGreen710
    ^ i really dont know what to make of that

    is he saying its improved on the launch version? or that he thinks the way it is in the videos is ok?


    The former I believe and if they're wrong, they can easily fix it through the tuner sets


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    • DeuceDouglas
      Madden Dev Team
      • Apr 2010
      • 4313

      #17
      Re: Packers Panthers (Toke)

      I wonder if they can tune the pocket awareness and AI as well without making the CPU scramble happy. I only mention that because if the rush is decent I can see a lot of issues arising with QB's essentially becoming tackle dummies in the backfield. It's a tough thing to balance that they've never really gotten right as far as it either being way too many sacks or way too little pressure.

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      • redsfan4life
        MVP
        • Mar 2005
        • 2753

        #18
        Re: Packers Panthers (Toke)

        I dunno, I don't think the pass rush is that bad. Maybe I'm crazy, but I've seen the QB hit the ground a lot in the vids I've seen.
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        • reverend_heat
          MVP
          • Aug 2002
          • 1768

          #19
          Re: Packers Panthers (Toke)

          Originally posted by redsfan4life
          I dunno, I don't think the pass rush is that bad. Maybe I'm crazy, but I've seen the QB hit the ground a lot in the vids I've seen.
          I dont think its that the QB's havent been getting hit, it just seems to me that more often than wed like to see they have enough time to make a sandwich standing in the pocket. its more of a consistency thing imo.

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          • SolidSquid
            MVP
            • Aug 2014
            • 3157

            #20
            Re: Packers Panthers (Toke)

            Originally posted by redsfan4life
            I dunno, I don't think the pass rush is that bad. Maybe I'm crazy, but I've seen the QB hit the ground a lot in the vids I've seen.
            Pass rush is more than sacks, it's making the qb move and making him uncomfortable. If you speed up the clock in a qbs head they make more mistake. What I want to see that I'm not seeing pass rush wise are defensive ends taking an angle that forces the qb to step up where the defensive tackles can get to him. In this packer video and other the qbs are taking their drops and just staying there bc the ends are not doing their jobs at all.

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            • jpdavis82
              All Star
              • Sep 2005
              • 8697

              #21
              Re: Packers Panthers (Toke)

              Originally posted by SolidSquid
              Pass rush is more than sacks, it's making the qb move and making him uncomfortable. If you speed up the clock in a qbs head they make more mistake. What I want to see that I'm not seeing pass rush wise are defensive ends taking an angle that forces the qb to step up where the defensive tackles can get to him. In this packer video and other the qbs are taking their drops and just staying there bc the ends are not doing their jobs at all.


              The Bills Vikings video shows some of this that you're talking about with the pressure.


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              • SolidSquid
                MVP
                • Aug 2014
                • 3157

                #22
                Re: Packers Panthers (Toke)

                Originally posted by jpdavis82
                The Bills Vikings video shows some of this that you're talking about with the pressure.


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                I'll give it a watch JP but I'm basing it more on all the videos as a whole. Granted it's not a final build and Rex said it can in fact be tuned easily, but we've heard that same thing for years.

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                • Cowboy008
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 4573

                  #23
                  Re: Packers Panthers (Toke)

                  Originally posted by roadman
                  According to JP, these games were captured last month.

                  I'm hoping that the fix to the rush is received in a day 1 patch, because, based on these videos, there is no pass rush.
                  I hope that's fixed and the CPU QB's move around in the pocket more.

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                  • SwaggerCoach
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1342

                    #24
                    Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Green Bay Packers vs. Carolina Panthers (ToKe)

                    This guy sounds like Billy Mays....if Billy Mays got hit in the head with a tire iron and kept talking.

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                    • Agent89
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2016
                      • 57

                      #25
                      You guys fail to realize he's playing on All-Madden, which nerfs your CPU AI per account of "difficulty.". All-Madden is notorious for excess CPU QB protection time which always provides adequate time for them to complete a pass regardless if you've chosen the proper coverage. They will tend to hit a man who's broken off their route if your user control takes away their reads and the teammates not under your control actually help and cover the other route(s). As a Panthers fan and knowledge that their front 7 is arguably the best in the NFL, default All-Madden cheats which is why I ALWAYS play All-Madden with slider sets so that the CPU AI behaves more realistically but still maintain alertness and perform strongly in clutch and rival game situations. So this and his other videos don't bother me because I'm doing sliders again this year.

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                      • NDAlum
                        ND
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 11469

                        #26
                        Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Green Bay Packers vs. Carolina Panthers (ToKe)

                        This guy makes the game look terrible. Horrible commentary. Horrible user strategy and skills.
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                        • DKHardee
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 114

                          #27
                          It drives me crazy that helmet numbers are non-existent during gameplay. They only show up pregame and during cut scenes. The back of the Panthers helmet is too blank. Same goes for Colts, Steelers, Giants... we need the helmet numbers!

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                          • jpdavis82
                            All Star
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 8697

                            #28
                            Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Green Bay Packers vs. Carolina Panthers (ToKe)

                            Originally posted by NDAlum
                            This guy makes the game look terrible. Horrible commentary. Horrible user strategy and skills.


                            I know and the commentary in game is actually incredible if he would just stop talking.


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                            • blanka4545
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 5

                              #29
                              This is not the final version guys! Just a later build watch! 7:03 animation is messed up on that catch! Fix that crap lol!

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                              • SageInfinite
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 11931

                                #30
                                Re: Madden NFL 17 Video - Green Bay Packers vs. Carolina Panthers (ToKe)

                                That catch @ 7:00 is just embarrassing. It's one thing if something quirky like that happened and he was already down, but it allowed the player to keep running. SMH.

                                QB throwing animations for Aaron Rodgers are just awful as well for the most part.....
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