FIFA 17 Career Mode Features Revealed

[flo182]

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Disappointing....

Seems like they just put in some new features (branding, finances) etc. without really working on stuff to back up these features.
What's financing good for if there's no real way to upgrade your stadium, facilities, staff etc. ? Whats branding good for if there is no ranking that compares clubs in terms of history, fan-base etc...?

It's like the whole transfer-system thing they introduced a few years back.
Why all the effort to implement features like this if you don't think them through? AI controlled Teams have absolutely no idea how to use the transfers system.

For example if Bayern sells Neuer for 50 Million to Chelsea (who would never buy him irl because they already have a world-class GK) they won't buy a replacement. Instead they'd probably spend the money on a position where there's absolutely no need.
Happens every year with every AI controlled team and completely takes out the realism of a career mode if AI teams act like this...

Not buying anything from EA until they fix this **** and finally give us a singleplayer mode thats worthy of a 2016 game... Compared to games like NBA 2k the whole mode just sucks!

[koszak27]

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In career mode, does it allow you to play CPU vs CPU, so that way you can watch the computer handle the on field play and you manage the off the field duties? Thank you to all who reply.

No you have to control a player. I wish we had this option but you can't just watch the game.

[Velocityy]

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One thing to keep in mind amidst some of the disappointment...

They promised us that there would be more specific tactics for each team, which we all asked for, and will be very nice if true in a long term career mode.

The last patch on Fifa 16 made the game much more sim-like in style of play (with some slider changes, of course), which could indicate they are aiming for a similar style on release of Fifa 17.

They have made runs, corners, free kicks, penalties, headers, and defense better (at least they say they have)...which should make the gameplay more varied and interesting.

So...the options might not be what we wanted, but maybe the gameplay will make up for it?

Trust me...I'm disappointed in these features too...but just trying to give it some perspective!

[SamuelChapo]

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Spotted from Gamereactor website:

As we spotted Barça's manager Luis Enrique during Barcelona trailer below, we were wondering whether the time had come already to football games like Pro Evolution Soccer 2017 to include in-game character models based on real world managers, and turns out it's something that might be closer to becoming realised than you may have thought:

"Yes we're definitely thinking about it and managers are now as stars as the star players are, and the star players may be following their path", producer Manorito Hosoda admits. "The legendary star players may now become the managers as well, so they also have an iconic image as much as the players do, so we would like to incorporate that in the game, depending on the star coaches and the players that become star coaches. We would like to focus on them to definitely show that in game."

Its gonna be really tight and interesting race if this is happening on PES also and they have really put on an effort about the tactics side of football this year. After 4 years of playing just FIFA im thinking about giving pes this year the upper hand. Wish gamescom was already this wknd.

Source: http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/44456...ng+considered/

[jrose57]

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so is there asian cup to play if i use j-league teams?

[dubcity]

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While knowing that nothing has really changed other than a new can of yellow paint. I kind of figured they would throw the same coding/scripting into the new engine for the first year. This is to be expected. They aren't going to make a new game from the ground up in a new engine, year one. They just don't have time to do that with a one year development cycle. Yes this year wont really be much of an improvement in a lot of areas. But maybe next year we start to see some real change. Hey, a guy can dream right. Also it will look pretty. And FUT. You guys wanna buy any coins? I prefer best value!

I almost feel like calling this a new engine is an exaggeration. A new engine would mean completely new animations, completely redone stadiums, and an overall drastically different look to the game. Like the difference between PES 2013 and 2014. Gameplay I've seen shows none of that.

[Zac]

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I almost feel like calling this a new engine is an exaggeration. A new engine would mean completely new animations, completely redone stadiums, and an overall drastically different look to the game. Like the difference between PES 2013 and 2014. Game play I've seen shows none of that.

Not sure how it could be an exaggeration. Its a fact. They moved from their own engine (ignite) to the Frostbite engine. They more than likely ported as much as they could exactly as it was. And then redid some things that didn't work exactly like before (mostly animations I assume and some AI scripting). As I'm sure some (maybe a lot?) of the programing is very different between the engines. And not all assets (images, etc) would have had to be redone brand new. I'm sure most did.

And its actually a huge difference graphically. I'm not sure what you are talking about. The players and the stadiums looks more life like. As for animations, its hard to judge that without actually playing it yourself. I'm sure there are a bunch of new animations in the game.

I put some player comparisons in the spoiler.

Spoiler

[TheDutchDad]

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I've always thought FIFA did terrible job on players likeness compared to PES, so Frostbite is a very welcome addition.

Tho I'm not sure Martial is a fair comparison as I don't think he had his face in last years game, as well as Memphis.

[Joshua1207]

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Nice to see the financial system in. Football Manager has something similar and its a very nice way to track profits & whatnot.

[mcavner]

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Some nice additions there, but I think there's still a few little ways the modes could be improved simply but effectively.

One of the frustrations FIFA Career Mode players have faced is the reality that the mode has become, so often, an afterthought for developers. It takes a backseat, and probably rightfully so from a business perspective, to the FUT model which draws a lot of money. Although the game’s popularity was founded upon a satisfying offline gamer experience, the mode, for the most part, has had few tweaks and as the game is ported from system to system gamers have, frustratingly, lost as many features as have been added. Indeed, many offline Career Mode gamers often just want features back into the game which have been lost in translation.

So when asking for mode improvements we have to keep in mind the limitations of developer priority and, in my opinion, take advantage of existing coding etc. as much as possible. I believe that within the game as it already exists there are a few ways that the EA FIFA team can vastly improve user offline experience by a major change in philosophy rather than a burdensome change in game development.

Customization

Perhaps the simplest way to improve the Career Mode game is to allow greater customization. Customization is an easy answer to so many game issues that plague developers. Issues such as training, player ratings, player progression and decline, player creation all have problems but if EA simply switched editing from OFF to ON a broad variety of players could tend to a broad variety of issues. Allow players global edits, allow players to edit players’ ratings, appearance, access to transfers, global roster controls etc. Simply letting offline players refine the game, as they do with sliders, will increase gamer satisfaction in an impactful way. Perhaps down the line we can speak of roster sharing etc., but immediately allowing gamers to edit in Career Mode is something relatively simple yet a major improvement.

By way of an example, I play Career Mode and manage Canada internationally. I’d love to see EA include the full qualifying but that’s a big add – a simple way to improve my experience would be editing. With such a small pool of players the game auto-generates the same names over and over again and after only a few years it is not uncommon for the Canadian team to be filled with players with the same name and, sometimes, the exact same appearance. Let gamers have access to all of those beautifully rendered faces in the game – why lose those to retirement? Let gamers edit the names with the huge name library so the names are ones that are announced in-game. And let gamers deal with any disagreements they may have with ‘glitches’ for player progression or issues with generated workrates with full editing.

The developers won’t need to create many, if any, new models, new screens etc. It’s all already in the game. Simply allow users to scroll through the faces in the game or edit their own created appearance. And let female models be used in Career Mode, too. It’s 2016 and my daughters still can’t play this game the same way they could if they were my sons. The edit player screens all exist outside the Career Mode – bring them into the mode as well. This would be a change in philosophy for EA who seem firm that gamers play the game a certain way – but a little less ego and more understanding that their market includes players from the ages of 5 to 75 with a wide range of talents and time would improve the overall experience in a significant way with little actual time on their part.

It's exciting to see Madden 17 has full player editing in their career mode this iteration and it would be great to see FIFA follow suit - it's a single feature that addresses multiple issues.

Micro Transactions

If money talks – let offline gamers into the conversation. Although the game has an existing system of game earned rewards etc. the Career Modes have plenty of opportunities for EA to squeeze the customer. Access to alternate kits, job offers, access to features (e.g. editing players, teams, leagues, international, global), could all be time earned or cash now features. I’d wager most offline gamers are the older players, and older players like myself often have more money than time. As much as it pains me to admit it, I’d pay more for more access. I’d complain that it should be included ‘out of the box’ – but frankly, more than once I’ve purchased FIFA for the gameplay and licensing and PES for the tinkering. It’s time for EA to put it all in one place.

[jrose57]

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so is there asian cup to play if i use j-league teams?

anyone knows??

[Matty Aqua]

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@ mcavner - Solid post!, I agree with pretty much all of what your saying!, maybe not so much adding micro transactions too the offline experience tho, I consider myself a mature gamer (recently turned 30) and would be happy to spend a couple extra bucks on improvements but it just wouldn't be fair to those who can't afford it, or younger gamers when they are already paying for the game itself!, but i feel where you are coming from with money vs time!

I definetly agree with having editing in the game!. The team in charge of career mode has really fallen behind, other sports games, as NBA 2k, The Show and even Madden now offer really deep franchise modes as well as single player story modes (which have never been my preference) and still maintaining a strong online community, I come from an NBA2k background before i got into football and FIFA, and while FIFA is barebones it has a lot of room for growth which is probably the most frustrating thing amongst it's offline community, is that we get fed tiny spoonfulls of improvements.

I think the most frustrating things in career mode is the team selection of the cpu opposition, there's nothing that destroys immersion more than seeing star players on the bench for no reason, especially first choice goalkeepers!. i'd love to see a star player on the bench because of terrible form, maybe a dispute with the manager, maybe the team is planning to sell and have that play into the career mode as a story, but not just random, and it's a bug the developers continually ignore!

[flo182]

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@mcavner

you're totally right with customization thing.

I never understood why EA gives the players hardly any editing options in singleplayer modes. Even from a business perspective (e.g. community-created rosters for new seasons) I dont see a reason. The percentage of players not buying the game every year just because the community can upgrade rosters and share them, has to be very low.

I remember the good old Pro Evo games on PS2 with all their editing features. It made the game sooo much better, the community could fix the whole "we have no licenses" thing and they still bought the game every year, because the small gameplay upgrades where reason enough to buy it.

I still buy NBA 2k every year even though I would be able to play a 5 year old version with up-to-date rosters thanks to the community.
The difference to FIFA is, that I'm buying 2k no matter what, because I know with time the community will fix a lot of the problems the official game has, thanks to the limitless editing options.

With FIFA I loose interest as soon as the first big flaws turn up (which normally happens as soon as I enter the transfermarket after the first season).
More editing and more customization would make this game sooo much more enjoyable in the long-term.

Right now I'm definitely not buying the game until I see some real progress. I just don't believe it's worth the money until EA gives the offline-manager modes some honest work instead of putting little features in every year, without even testing if they work in the long-run (youth-players, transfers, AI-managers etc.)

[koszak27]

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If we can't turn off being fired then I fear this only makes it harder to keep your job. Instead of needing to finish in a certain table position and reach a playoff round, we will be fired for not selling enough shirts or not signing 5 youth players.

One other feature I have been missing is a way to assign substitute priorities or to have some kind of game plan control over simmed games. I tend to sim most of the season so I am in essence a GM and not a coach. FIFA makes no distinction between the two.

[orion523]

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FIFA has consistently lagged behind the other Major sports games when it comes to career mode, so I wasn't expecting much, and that's exactly how it played out. My only hope at this point is that the new features work as intended. On the other hand, simply improving the logic on the features already present would go a long way in helping improve the mode, a long way, but it seems that wasn't done either. All in all it's just another in a series of yearly let downs. What doesn't help of course is the paltry offering of the competitor, but that's another story for another post.