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  • Millennium
    Franchise Streamer
    • Aug 2002
    • 9889

    #1

    Madden NFL 17 Teach Me How/Strategy Thread

    Once again we bring to you a place where you can ask questions about strategy/schemes/concepts or just general football knowledge to users who may have a bit more expertise than you. Madden can be an extremely deep game that has added a plethora of new game mechanics/systems and this is the perfect place to upgrade your football knowledge for the gridiron.

    I'll start with one of the most import ~3 hours of Madden 17 you may watch when starting off. It's long, but there is a TON of info on the a lot of the new gameplay systems (including Anthony White spinning your head on new zone coverages).

    Start at 5:28:00 and goes until about 8:24:00

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  • SolidSquid
    MVP
    • Aug 2014
    • 3159

    #2
    Re: Madden NFL 17 Teach Me How/Strategy Thread

    Teach me how to play defense!!. I'm getting abused by TEs, even if I manually put a corner in man to man on one they simply can't keep up and get burned by every route.

    Getting off blocks in the run game especially feels very sticky. It's like once a blocker gets close to me I have no chance to shed. It's lead to a ton of huge runs for my oppenent.

    Zone defense, hard flats are still giving up wide open passes to the flat. What am I doing wrong?

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    • KyGamerLT
      Pro
      • Jun 2008
      • 572

      #3
      Re: Madden NFL 17 Teach Me How/Strategy Thread

      Originally posted by SolidSquid
      Teach me how to play defense!!. I'm getting abused by TEs, even if I manually put a corner in man to man on one they simply can't keep up and get burned by every route.

      Getting off blocks in the run game especially feels very sticky. It's like once a blocker gets close to me I have no chance to shed. It's lead to a ton of huge runs for my oppenent.

      Zone defense, hard flats are still giving up wide open passes to the flat. What am I doing wrong?
      Cover 3 safety purple. Man up the player you want to user on the TE. Use your coverage adjustments: underneath, inside, outside. Best way to get off blocks is to control someone with good strength and block shed. Also if you control a blitzing player will get better block shed. Quick hits to the RB out of shotgun can be slowed down by putting a LB in man against him then fake blitz: this player you man him up with must be on the line or outside your tackles. Fake blitz will make your player take two steps up getting closer to the RB.
      Last edited by KyGamerLT; 08-19-2016, 07:35 PM.

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      • Skyboxer
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        • Jul 2002
        • 20302

        #4
        Re: Madden NFL 17 Teach Me How/Strategy Thread

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        • Jr.
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          • Feb 2003
          • 19171

          #5
          Re: Madden NFL 17 Teach Me How/Strategy Thread

          Originally posted by SolidSquid
          Zone defense, hard flats are still giving up wide open passes to the flat. What am I doing wrong?
          For last year, you had to adjust to underneath coverage in order to actually cover the flats. Otherwise, your flat defenders would drop 10 yards deep.
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          • tubaSimulator
            Rookie
            • Dec 2010
            • 251

            #6
            Re: Madden NFL 17 Teach Me How/Strategy Thread

            Is there any online guides or the likes that can show me what the most important individual attributes for each player type in CFM? I don't mind making a guide like that myself, but as of now I don't have enough knowledge of every player type in every position to do so. Maybe we could start a new thread for discussing it and coming up with a guide together but I just wanted to ask if such a thing already exists before doing so.
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            • Cowboyfan_19
              Pro
              • Jan 2015
              • 724

              #7
              Re: Madden NFL 17 Teach Me How/Strategy Thread

              How can i make my CPU defenders play better MAN coverage? Much like the first question here, regardless of the TE's route, he just destroys whoever's covering him. Same thing with wide recievers; Corner routes & drag routes kill me.

              I thought Man defense in Madden was terrible since the ignite engine came in Madden 13, but I'm beginning to think it's just been me this whole time.

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              • mrprice33
                Just some guy
                • Jul 2003
                • 5986

                #8
                Re: Madden NFL 17 Teach Me How/Strategy Thread

                Originally posted by Cowboyfan_19
                How can i make my CPU defenders play better MAN coverage? Much like the first question here, regardless of the TE's route, he just destroys whoever's covering him. Same thing with wide recievers; Corner routes & drag routes kill me.

                I thought Man defense in Madden was terrible since the ignite engine came in Madden 13, but I'm beginning to think it's just been me this whole time.
                Which team are you using? I'm finding that bad secondaries play as they should. Dolphins CBs are trash and I can't cover anybody.

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                • Xtra
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 469

                  #9
                  Re: Madden NFL 17 Teach Me How/Strategy Thread

                  When you want to trade a player, which way gives you a better deal? Doing it manually, or tossing him on the trade block?

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                  • SuperBowlNachos
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 10218

                    #10
                    Re: Madden NFL 17 Teach Me How/Strategy Thread

                    Originally posted by Xtra
                    When you want to trade a player, which way gives you a better deal? Doing it manually, or tossing him on the trade block?
                    I got a better deal by doing a manual trade after seeing what teams were interested.

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                    • SuperBowlNachos
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 10218

                      #11
                      Re: Madden NFL 17 Teach Me How/Strategy Thread

                      Should I be doing the extra XP bonuses (in pre-game practice) to "normal" or "superstar" rookies. I know I could get 300 XP to a guy like Elliot, but he is already gaining XP at higher rate. So should I take advantage of that, or be putting guys who have "normal progression" and trying to boost their stats?

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                      • ThatMichiganFan
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 801

                        #12
                        Re: Madden NFL 17 Teach Me How/Strategy Thread

                        Originally posted by Cowboyfan_19
                        How can i make my CPU defenders play better MAN coverage? Much like the first question here, regardless of the TE's route, he just destroys whoever's covering him. Same thing with wide recievers; Corner routes & drag routes kill me.

                        I thought Man defense in Madden was terrible since the ignite engine came in Madden 13, but I'm beginning to think it's just been me this whole time.
                        Well corner routes and drag routes are specifically man beating routes. In this game, coverage ratings are very important and without a top tier secondary, you will struggle in one-on-one coverage. For example, play as the Cardinals and after every passing play, go into instant replay and watch Patrick Peterson in man coverage and watch their CB2 in man coverage. Peterson keeps square until the WR makes a real move, trails in perfect position, and always breaks on the ball. On the other side, the other corner gets juked pretty easily, can get out of position, and is sometimes late breaking on balls.

                        If you want tips on how to run man to man coverage, try calling a Cover 2 Man, then hot route both safeties into man coverage (for example, make your FS cover their #1 WR and your SS cover their TE). This will double team those receivers and make it much harder to pass to them. Be careful though, because you can get torched on the ground doing this.
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                        • Becanes
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 872

                          #13
                          Re: Madden NFL 17 Teach Me How/Strategy Thread

                          Originally posted by Millennium
                          Once again we bring to you a place where you can ask questions about strategy/schemes/concepts or just general football knowledge to users who may have a bit more expertise than you. Madden can be an extremely deep game that has added a plethora of new game mechanics/systems and this is the perfect place to upgrade your football knowledge for the gridiron.

                          I'll start with one of the most import ~3 hours of Madden 17 you may watch when starting off. It's long, but there is a TON of info on the a lot of the new gameplay systems (including Anthony White spinning your head on new zone coverages).

                          Start at 5:28:00 and goes until about 8:24:00

                          https://www.twitch.tv/easports/v/84129843
                          I don't know if a lot of people are watching this video but if they aren't then they are really sleeping on this. A lot of valuable information and a lot of questions answered.

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                          • OhMrHanky
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 1898

                            #14
                            Re: Madden NFL 17 Teach Me How/Strategy Thread

                            Originally posted by Millennium
                            Once again we bring to you a place where you can ask questions about strategy/schemes/concepts or just general football knowledge to users who may have a bit more expertise than you. Madden can be an extremely deep game that has added a plethora of new game mechanics/systems and this is the perfect place to upgrade your football knowledge for the gridiron.



                            I'll start with one of the most import ~3 hours of Madden 17 you may watch when starting off. It's long, but there is a TON of info on the a lot of the new gameplay systems (including Anthony White spinning your head on new zone coverages).



                            Start at 5:28:00 and goes until about 8:24:00



                            https://www.twitch.tv/easports/v/84129843


                            Yeah. He ain't lying. This is the good part of twitch stream. And, 6:30 gets into zone coverage. Cover 3 match, pattern matching in general. They show good replays and what not breaking it down.


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                            • 335TDC
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2016
                              • 352

                              #15
                              Re: Madden NFL 17 Teach Me How/Strategy Thread

                              Originally posted by OhMrHanky
                              Yeah. He ain't lying. This is the good part of twitch stream. And, 6:30 gets into zone coverage. Cover 3 match, pattern matching in general. They show good replays and what not breaking it down.


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                              Watching this increases my respect for the Madden devs. They do take this stuff very seriously and try to solve legacy issues. The OL/DL interactions are still woeful, though.

                              Interesting here that the invisible wall that people report when blitzing was actually a dev decision to nerf nano blitzes. That and the don't-taze-me-bro animation. I CANNOT agree with that solution, though: it tries to solve bad line code by lobotomizing control.

                              The tiered RB moves based on ratings and the steerable moves look awesome.

                              I really think a PDF manual that tells users under-the-hood stuff would make gameplay so much more enjoyable and less frustrating. Knowing that taking control of the DB when the ball is in the air activates a bonus based on ratings -- who knew that? I miss the days of old PC manuals that were like books and really took time to explain things to the CUSTOMERS. Print manuals might be impossible, but why not PDF's?

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