The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

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  • ogpremo
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    • Aug 2016
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    #196
    Originally posted by NotreDomer10
    No WR at RB even though several teams do it in real life every game? makes sense....
    You can still do it while playing around with it in practice mode

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    • Chin2112
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      • Feb 2014
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      #197
      Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

      Apologies if this has been answer but are you able to use formation subs with custom play books? I'm under the impression you can't for some reason but it would be great to get it confirmed.

      Thanks guys
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      • DirtyJerz32
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        • Aug 2007
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        #198
        Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

        Originally posted by Chin2112
        Apologies if this has been answer but are you able to use formation subs with custom play books? I'm under the impression you can't for some reason but it would be great to get it confirmed.

        Thanks guys
        I don't believe so, I haven't been able to find this in the cfm coach menu.
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        • Hooe
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          • Aug 2002
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          #199
          Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

          Originally posted by Chin2112
          Apologies if this has been answer but are you able to use formation subs with custom play books? I'm under the impression you can't for some reason but it would be great to get it confirmed.

          Thanks guys
          The short answer is "no you cannot."

          The long answer (citing what Mr. Price posted earlier in this thread) is that, if you set your team's playbook to one of the default in-game playbooks, make your formation subs, and then choose your custom playbook in the team select screen, any formation subs for common formations between the two playbooks still apply. Any formations your playbook has that the default playbook you chose originally you will not be able to set formation subs for, because the formation subs UI relies on the existing in-game playbooks.

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          • DirtyJerz32
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            • Aug 2007
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            #200
            Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

            Originally posted by CM Hooe
            The short answer is "no you cannot."

            The long answer (citing what Mr. Price posted earlier in this thread) is that, if you set your team's playbook to one of the default in-game playbooks, make your formation subs, and then choose your custom playbook in the team select screen, any formation subs for common formations between the two playbooks still apply. Any formations your playbook has that the default playbook you chose originally you will not be able to set formation subs for, because the formation subs UI relies on the existing in-game playbooks.
            Thanks for the answer CM and information Mr. Price. Has this bee confirmed? Just to make sure I'm reading this correctly. Example. If I pick the Jets playbook and make my changes to those formation in the default playbook and then use the same formations in my CPB they'll still work?
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            • Hooe
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              • Aug 2002
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              #201
              Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

              Originally posted by DirtyJerz32
              Thanks for the answer CM and information Mr. Price. Has this bee confirmed? Just to make sure I'm reading this correctly. Example. If I pick the Jets playbook and make my changes to those formation in the default playbook and then use the same formations in my CPB they'll still work?
              From the way I understood the explanation, what you describe should work. However, if you were to add a formation to this playbook - say you really like I-Form but the Jets playbook didn't have it for some reason - you won't be able to set any formation subs for I-Form because you're using the Jets' playbook as your base, and the Jets' playbook is what the formation subs UI sees.

              I defer to Mr. Price for confirmation, however.

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              • DirtyJerz32
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                • Aug 2007
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                #202
                Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                Originally posted by CM Hooe
                From the way I understood the explanation, what you describe should work. However, if you were to add a formation to this playbook - say you really like I-Form but the Jets playbook didn't have it for some reason - you won't be able to set any formation subs for I-Form because you're using the Jets' playbook as your base, and the Jets' playbook is what the formation subs UI sees.

                I defer to Mr. Price for confirmation, however.
                Just tested this, it does work. I added all 23 plays to the Jets Pistol Slot formation in my CPB. Went into CFM subbed in every 2nd string player. Then went into practice mode and a regular season game and sure enough everyone in that formation was my 2nd string players that I subbed in. Nice find for the workaround Mr. Price.
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                • Shadymamba
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                  #203
                  no DT at TE sorry JJ Watt - but finally this looks great!!!
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                  • DirectFX
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                    #204
                    Does this mean no Wildcat formations? No RB/WR at QB ? Current NFL you have more WR that were former QB that could be subbed in for a trick play here and there, just off the top of my head you have Pryor, B.Miller, Edelman etc that could go to QB with no problems but I guess we can't ..
                    Also the QB would need to lineup outside at WR to complete the deception but seems that's restricted too ...
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                    • slick1ru2
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                      • Aug 2009
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                      #205
                      Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                      Can't sub a SS into the LB position in Nickel either, like the 1-4-6 Big Dime had last year. It's missing from this year's 4-3 defense books and you can't even create it now. Useless.


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                      • tessl
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                        • Apr 2007
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                        #206
                        Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                        Question - is there a way to sub for kickoff and kickoff returns? I can't find kickoffs on the special teams list.

                        Also, is there a way to get a custom playbook as my "scheme" so I can edit the plays I use instead of a scheme I don't use?

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                        • Scott
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                          #207
                          Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                          Originally posted by tessl
                          Question - is there a way to sub for kickoff and kickoff returns? I can't find kickoffs on the special teams list.

                          Also, is there a way to get a custom playbook as my "scheme" so I can edit the plays I use instead of a scheme I don't use?
                          No formation subs for Kickoffs/KO Returns.
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                          • rich8682
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                            #208
                            Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                            Why can we not sub WR in at HB? And stuff like Watt at TE, CB at WR for a guy like Peterson. Give us NCAA depth charts, I want to be able to play anybody anywhere.

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                            • Find_the_Door
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                              #209
                              Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                              Originally posted by rich8682
                              Why can we not sub WR in at HB? And stuff like Watt at TE, CB at WR for a guy like Peterson. Give us NCAA depth charts, I want to be able to play anybody anywhere.

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                              That would be a nightmare for people that actually want a somewhat grounded sim experience.
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                              • rich8682
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                                #210
                                Re: The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

                                Originally posted by Find_the_Door
                                That would be a nightmare for people that actually want a somewhat grounded sim experience.
                                Online maybe. Offline cfm would be fine. Say I have Tavon Austin. I want him in the backfield at times.

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