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  • DBMcGee3
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 1166

    #76
    Originally posted by BL8001
    If you want an eye opener go play FIFA 16.

    I just played 2 Fifa 16 matches with default settings, then fired up PES and played 2 matches with default settings.

    The way everything goes down is just so much more balanced and fair. If you play chill, the PES AI can score on you on regular, if you play aggressively you need to move up the difficulty.

    But to have an AI who is both adventurous and threatening even on the FIFA equivalent of pro is outstanding.

    Me as Boca vs River ends 2-2. They go up 1-0, I clamp down and equalize with Tevez, then just a bit later go ahead with a wonderful Tevez goal. CPU claws back and ties up 2-2. None of this feels cheap or exploitative. I am not trying to go into a certain area where automatic goals happen or watch the CPU D being gifted generous miracles to keep me from scoring.

    I will have the vid up in this post soon. Stupid xbox one DVR missed my 2nd tevez goal. I wish the xbox one had the recording logic of PS4 to actually start your 5 minutes from when the last 5 minutes ended.

    I really hope the FIFA 17 demo is as good as the PES demo. Having 2 great games would be outstanding.
    I agree with you across the board. I think the highest compliment I can give PES this year is that the CPU is scoring some really nice goals on me, in a variety of ways. I have yet to feel cheated, and I can almost always point to a mistake I made that left the door open.

    I've played FIFA for years, including spending much more time with it than with PES the past 2 years. I like a lot of what they do. That being said, if their demo doesn't knock it out of the park, I probably won't be buying it this year. The PES demo has me absolutely giddy at work right now, just thinking about playing later. FIFA has never given me that feeling.

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    • BSDShoes
      Rookie
      • Sep 2015
      • 399

      #77
      Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

      Having played more of the demo, I noticed the AI is actually alive and does a variety of things like actually cross passing.

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      • BL8001
        MVP
        • Jul 2010
        • 1884

        #78
        Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

        Originally posted by DBMcGee3
        The PES demo has me absolutely giddy at work right now, just thinking about playing later. FIFA has never given me that feeling.
        This right here.

        I am sitting here thinking of the same thing, how can I attack better/more creatively or maybe if I had just played one more extra pass...

        Also simple things about who is on the pitch, where. Because it matters. Subs make a big difference.

        What I like is how they took the user's player offense AI from last year and made it even better. So often when I use the common tactic of holding up play and allowing overlap, there on the screen is the overlap. I don't have to hold the ball wishing the run would come, it happens.

        CPU is doing similar things, they use the pass and go way more effectively than last year.

        What it does is fires off defense alarms in the right way. You can feel the threat intensifying. But it doesn't mean they will score, it just means the threat is there. Of course it all means when you do something wrong when the tension heightens the CPU is way more likely to score.

        I cannot wait to grab an option file and try some games with lower skilled teams.
        resident curmudgeon

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        • BL8001
          MVP
          • Jul 2010
          • 1884

          #79
          Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

          Here is boca river xbox one. Someone at ms or konami needs to tell us why this game looks crisp and clear on PS4 and blurry on xbox one. Other sports games don't look this drastically different.

          And yes, I missed a wide open goal at 4 min. I just held the stick the wrong way, I was playing FIFA style and trying to guide the player to the ball, holding left stick up and left but he was smart enough to move there on his own so when I shot the shot went up and left and I missed.

          I put my head in my hands and went no, looked up and my dude on screen had his head in his hands.

          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/VKo8p2SIQ_c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
          resident curmudgeon

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          • dubcity
            Hall Of Fame
            • May 2012
            • 17872

            #80
            Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, Later Today on PS3, PS4 - Post Your Impressi

            Originally posted by Matt10

            I played superstar as well and it happens throughout all teams. This is a built in/embedded issue with the defensive mentality. Ever since they introduced the Attacking Prowess and Defensive Prowess values, there is no in-between. So they will either Defend the man as much as they can, or they will go in a full out attack as much as possible.
            I'm sure it's programmed that way on purpose by Konami to create more end-to-end-action and "exciting" gameplay for casuals. Realistic midfield play/defending slows things down too much. I'm sure most players don't even think it's a problem seeing defenders sprint back to the edge of their own 18 yard box the instant their team loses possession, as long as the graphics look good on celebrations.

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            • BL8001
              MVP
              • Jul 2010
              • 1884

              #81
              Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

              Going through the cameras.

              If they had a blimp vertical we would have the return of an advanced version of sensible soccer.
              resident curmudgeon

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              • C.J.S.
                graphic artist
                • Oct 2010
                • 512

                #82
                Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                <iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Z8KpPs5Qli0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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                • RoyceDa59
                  Chillin
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 3830

                  #83
                  Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                  Originally posted by C.J.S.
                  <iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Z8KpPs5Qli0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                  Wow that was great love how it looks like you didn't know how to react with Ox after you scored that haha.

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                  • therizing02
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 4176

                    #84
                    Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                    It's bee a few years since I've had the "I can't wait until this game come out feeling"....it's back.

                    In Matt's first (of what will be many ) videos he used the word "nostalgic".

                    When you start a game in this demo and in many of the past games of the series you get a certain feeling when the players walk out on the pitch. Not sure how to put it into words, but you can almost feel the moment and the match build up as the players and refs take the pitch. Do I have the right tactics? How is the form of the team going to play out? Have I started the right players and are they in the proper formation given the opponent?

                    As the game plays out you can feel the tension of the match. Are they adjusting to my tactics? Should I sub? Is it too early to sub?

                    These are the thoughts that I had playing past PES/WE games and that is what I thought of yesterday playing through about 5 games of this demo. That's the first time that has happened since WE9.

                    The feeling of playing soccer vs. a video game appears to be back....finally.

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                    • DBMcGee3
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1166

                      #85
                      Originally posted by BL8001
                      Here is boca river xbox one. Someone at ms or konami needs to tell us why this game looks crisp and clear on PS4 and blurry on xbox one. Other sports games don't look this drastically different.

                      And yes, I missed a wide open goal at 4 min. I just held the stick the wrong way, I was playing FIFA style and trying to guide the player to the ball, holding left stick up and left but he was smart enough to move there on his own so when I shot the shot went up and left and I missed.

                      I put my head in my hands and went no, looked up and my dude on screen had his head in his hands.

                      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/VKo8p2SIQ_c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                      Ouch man, even I had my head in my hands when you missed that sitter. Really nice cross and header to set up that wank though, if there's a silver lining, lol.

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                      • C.J.S.
                        graphic artist
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 512

                        #86
                        Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                        Originally posted by therizing02
                        It's bee a few years since I've had the "I can't wait until this game come out feeling"....it's back.

                        In Matt's first (of what will be many ) videos he used the word "nostalgic".

                        When you start a game in this demo and in many of the past games of the series you get a certain feeling when the players walk out on the pitch. Not sure how to put it into words, but you can almost feel the moment and the match build up as the players and refs take the pitch. Do I have the right tactics? How is the form of the team going to play out? Have I started the right players and are they in the proper formation given the opponent?

                        As the game plays out you can feel the tension of the match. Are they adjusting to my tactics? Should I sub? Is it too early to sub?

                        These are the thoughts that I had playing past PES/WE games and that is what I thought of yesterday playing through about 5 games of this demo. That's the first time that has happened since WE9.

                        The feeling of playing soccer vs. a video game appears to be back....finally.
                        agree, best demo in a long time

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                        • Bixer
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 246

                          #87
                          Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                          Just downloaded the demo and played a bit now - I'm really, really enjoying it. Feels smooth, animations look great and for the most part player positioning seems good.

                          Early days of course, but it really feels like this could be the year I finally return to PES - I've been waiting 10 years for it to happen!

                          I'm so sick of buying FIFA by default, purely because PES is that much worse. It really does feel as though we have a genuine contender this year and to be honest at this stage it really wouldn't take a lot for me to say goodbye to EA now. Looking back, I didn't really 'enjoy' FIFA 15 or 16, it was always too much of an uphill struggle to get them to play properly.

                          But anyway, I digress. Really loving the demo so far, I'm excited to see what Konami can do this year.

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                          • RoyceDa59
                            Chillin
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 3830

                            #88
                            Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                            Originally posted by therizing02
                            It's bee a few years since I've had the "I can't wait until this game come out feeling"....it's back.

                            In Matt's first (of what will be many ) videos he used the word "nostalgic".

                            When you start a game in this demo and in many of the past games of the series you get a certain feeling when the players walk out on the pitch. Not sure how to put it into words, but you can almost feel the moment and the match build up as the players and refs take the pitch. Do I have the right tactics? How is the form of the team going to play out? Have I started the right players and are they in the proper formation given the opponent?

                            As the game plays out you can feel the tension of the match. Are they adjusting to my tactics? Should I sub? Is it too early to sub?

                            These are the thoughts that I had playing past PES/WE games and that is what I thought of yesterday playing through about 5 games of this demo. That's the first time that has happened since WE9.

                            The feeling of playing soccer vs. a video game appears to be back....finally.
                            Was wondering when you were going to post some impressions. Pes impression thread isn't complete until you, Ezio, and LingeringRegime post haha.

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                            • L4velle
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 94

                              #89
                              Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                              I'm just hoping we get the licences back that we had last year for AFC Champions League and Libertadores. Being a XB1 user and not being able to file share the licences are looking extremely sparse for the Europe this year. Absolutely love the demo. Big thumbs up. I for one don't really like the PES vs Fifa argument I love both games for different reasons and always buy both as they both give a different but enjoyable experience. Back to PES and big plus on the major negatives from a strong showing in PES 2016 last year. The GK are much better and the shooting mechanics are much better and varied. Ball physics seem to been improved significantly as well.

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                              • BL8001
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 1884

                                #90
                                Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                                I wish the demo was better at illustrating the new features.

                                How does real touch come off?

                                I think you just LS. But do you? just LS or hold LT ( I moved special to LT) and RS? I did not see it in the command list.

                                Same with precise pass. It just happens or am I supposed to be button pressing to make it happen?

                                Most I can glean from searching online is it just happens. If your player you are controlling is awesome you will see it more. Rolling with some serie B squad you may never see it
                                Last edited by BL8001; 08-24-2016, 04:47 PM.
                                resident curmudgeon

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