I tell u what, I don't think i was seeing them much before the zeros! lol. With the changes they made to the RB special moves, I feel like every time I try to hit stick, I get JUKED! And, end up on the turf. So, it's tough, it's possible there have been less since I went to zeros. Because, I def don't feel like I'm hit-sticking as much, so maybe a little less. I still get fumbles, but normally off the LB button. I may play with fumbles slider a little now that u mention this. I like big hits, so I may want to introduce some more. And, in M16, I def noticed that lowering the fumble slider does this. The set I played M16 with, I set fumbles to 43. That not only has the result of causing more fumbles, but in essence, it triggers the "fumble animation" more often which can be generated by hit stick. So, actually, I might play with that a little, and lower it. I kept it at 50 for now, because I am still seeing some fumbles, but again, mostly from LB. In fact, I'll tell u from last year, as well - my slider set, I set tackling to like, 43, or something less than 50 as well, because I wanted more broken tackles. And, I noticed, for sure, that big hits felt more "attached" to the fumble slider than the tackle slider.