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  • LordFrieza
    Rookie
    • Mar 2004
    • 152

    #1

    LordFrieza's M17 CPU vs. CPU Sliders

    Hey everyone,
    Just thought I would share the sliders I've come up with over the past few days of testing and tweaking. Credit to OhMrHanky for providing me with an idea for a starting point (see the thread <a href="http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football-sliders/887753-ohmrhankys-zero-sliders-ratings-matter-madden-17-a.html">here</a>). After no success with default sliders, I thought why not start at 0 and go from there. Let me know what you guys think. I've had some very good games with the most realistic stats I've seen so far.

    League Settings
    Skill Level: Rookie
    Game Speed: Very Slow
    Injury: On
    Quarter Length: 15 minutes
    Accelerated Clock: On
    Minimum Play Clock Time: 12

    Gameplay Sliders - Updated 12/20
    Player/CPU Skill
    QB Accuracy: 50
    Pass Blocking: 50
    WR Catching: 50
    Run Blocking: 50
    Fumbles: 50
    Pass Defense Reaction Time: 50
    Interceptions: 50
    Pass Coverage: 50
    Tackling: 50

    Special Teams
    FG Power: 50
    FG Accuracy: 50
    Punt Power: 50
    Punt Accuracy: 50
    Kickoff Power: 50

    Game Options
    Injuries: 50
    Fatigue: 50
    Min Player Speed Threshold: 50

    Penalties
    Offside: 50
    False Start: 50
    Holding: 50
    Defensive Holding: 50
    Face Mask: 50
    Defensive PI: 50
    Offensive PI: On
    Kick Catch Interference: On
    Illegal Block In The Back: 50
    Intentional Grounding: On
    Roughing Passer: 50
    Roughing Kicker: On
    Running Into The Kicker: On

    Yes, these sliders are all default settings. I've realized that no matter how much I tweak it, I still don't get the results I like. Instead, I've opted to modify the playbooks used and the coaching schemes in Franchise mode. These have produced by far the best results I've seen so far. Very close, competitive back-and-forth games as one would expect from a fantasy draft franchise! I'm even seeing more of a balance in WR's and TE's being targeted!

    I set all teams to the following:
    Offense Playbook: Run 'n' Gun
    Offensive Scheme: Vertical Offense
    Defense Playbook: 4-3
    Defensive Scheme: Base 4-3

    Also, not sure if it makes that much of a difference or not, but I also set the XP sliders to 150% for all positions before starting the franchise.

    Try these out, let me know what you think and if you recommend any adjustments.
    Last edited by LordFrieza; 12-21-2016, 12:04 AM. Reason: Updating sliders
  • whosnext00
    Pro
    • Sep 2011
    • 596

    #2
    Re: LordFrieza's M17 CPU vs. CPU Sliders

    Can you past a few box scores

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    • extremeskins04
      That's top class!
      • Aug 2010
      • 3864

      #3
      Re: LordFrieza's M17 CPU vs. CPU Sliders

      When you're doing cpu vs cpu mode, you're talking about Play the Moment on the Slow setting right? So the players play themselves. (Just making sure this is the way you're doing it).

      Also, have you noticed the QB's in cpu vs cpu do hard counts and draw your o-line false starts alot? Like, sometimes it will happen in back to back plays.

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      • WolfDawg
        Rookie
        • Sep 2004
        • 36

        #4
        Re: LordFrieza's M17 CPU vs. CPU Sliders

        Originally posted by extremeskins04
        When you're doing cpu vs cpu mode, you're talking about Play the Moment on the Slow setting right? So the players play themselves. (Just making sure this is the way you're doing it).

        Also, have you noticed the QB's in cpu vs cpu do hard counts and draw your o-line false starts alot? Like, sometimes it will happen in back to back plays.
        This is the way I've been playing and love it. Haven't tried these ones yet but I have the same concern about the false starts. I've been using Josh's sliders and with false start at 55 I get about 10 called a game which is very annoying, can't imagine what it'd be at 65. That being said I think the game plays pretty well out of the box, just needs minor tweaks instead of major slider overhauls as it's been in the past. Looking forward to seeing where this goes.

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        • taqiyya
          Rookie
          • Oct 2002
          • 228

          #5
          Re: LordFrieza's M17 CPU vs. CPU Sliders

          Originally posted by WolfDawg
          This is the way I've been playing and love it. Haven't tried these ones yet but I have the same concern about the false starts. I've been using Josh's sliders and with false start at 55 I get about 10 called a game which is very annoying, can't imagine what it'd be at 65. That being said I think the game plays pretty well out of the box, just needs minor tweaks instead of major slider overhauls as it's been in the past. Looking forward to seeing where this goes.


          I agree I play on the pro level with just fatigue bump up to 60, and autos subs 60 out 80 in. That's it . 9 min quarters with play clock acc turned off . Played 3 games in owner mode franchise as the Eagles I am 2-1. Blew out the Browns 1st game and Bears beat the breaks off me in game 2 . Game three came down to the wire against the steelers . I'm happy with this and I'm gonna do my best to quit slider tinkering lol


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          It aint my fault!!

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          • extremeskins04
            That's top class!
            • Aug 2010
            • 3864

            #6
            Re: LordFrieza's M17 CPU vs. CPU Sliders

            Originally posted by WolfDawg
            This is the way I've been playing and love it. Haven't tried these ones yet but I have the same concern about the false starts. I've been using Josh's sliders and with false start at 55 I get about 10 called a game which is very annoying, can't imagine what it'd be at 65. That being said I think the game plays pretty well out of the box, just needs minor tweaks instead of major slider overhauls as it's been in the past. Looking forward to seeing where this goes.
            Yea I brought the False Start slider down to 45 and it still happens but no where near as much. Probably at most 4-5 a game. It's just annoying that it usually happens back to back.

            It's almost as if when one of my Guards gets a false start, he gets nervous and does it again the very next play LOL.

            Also, Freiza can you post a few box scores and stats with your sliders here please? I want to see if they're as good as Josh's default sliders.

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            • TEAMPURPJG
              Rookie
              • Feb 2014
              • 43

              #7
              Re: LordFrieza's M17 CPU vs. CPU Sliders

              let me know where this goes from here, i play cpu vs cpu quite alot. dont know if ita play the moment but i watch the full game. ive been using flakoz sliders and they work pretty well. im in preseason week 2 and its 19-20 10 min left. i drafted my team. if needed ill post box scores and stats.

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              • LordFrieza
                Rookie
                • Mar 2004
                • 152

                #8
                Re: LordFrieza's M17 CPU vs. CPU Sliders

                Some interesting thoughts guys, I rarely see any penalties at all and was thinking of cranking up a few of the sliders to see what kind of impact that has. I've seen one defensive PI called and a few false starts, offsides and holding calls, but it seems to be only 5 penalties or so called a game so far. I do "Play the Moment" on slow for the full game, so it's entirely CPU vs CPU and am in the third season of a franchise mode. I'll post some box scores later this afternoon/evening and I might make a few more minor tweaks to the settings as well. One thing to note is I've been getting completion percentages around 60-65% and yards per carry around 5-6 so far. Thanks for the feedback all!

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                • tsp120
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 197

                  #9
                  Re: LordFrieza's M17 CPU vs. CPU Sliders

                  I started a franchise where I watch all of the playoff games. I did the Wildcard games and the first 3 divisional games using default Pro sliders.

                  Then this morning I saw these so I decided to try them. Here are some stats from the first two games:

                  Divisional Round: (in this game I accidentally logged Total Yards with the Total Offense)

                  <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><table class="osdyn" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="6" align="center">Philadelphia Eagles at New Orleans Saints</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Jan 1, </td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Philadelphia Eagles ()</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">6</td><td class="active" align="right">37</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>New Orleans Saints ()</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">7</td><td class="active" align="right">31</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%">
                  </td><td align="center" width="20%">PHI</td><td align="center" width="20%">NOR</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">499</td><td align="center">414</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">197</td><td align="center">15</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">302</td><td align="center">399</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">18</td><td align="center">15</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">38</td><td align="center">33</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">113</td><td align="center">151</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">499</td><td align="center">414</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">1</td><td align="center">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">7-16</td><td align="center">6-14</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">2-2</td><td align="center">2-2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">3-25</td><td align="center">3-30</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">33:34</td><td align="center">26:26</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" width="575"><tbody><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="5" bgcolor="#003B48">Philadelphia Eagles</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>C. Wentz</td><td align="right">23/31</td><td align="right">302</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>R. Mathews</td><td align="right">29</td><td align="right">194</td><td align="right">6.6</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D. Sproles</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">1.6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="5" bgcolor="#C9B074">New Orleans Saints</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D. Brees</td><td align="right">30/45</td><td align="right">413</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M. Ingram</td><td align="right">13</td><td align="right">19</td><td align="right">1.4</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>

                  AFC Championship

                  <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><table class="osdyn" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="6" align="center">New England Patriots at Kansas City Chiefs</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Jan 1, </td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>New England Patriots ()</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">10</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Kansas City Chiefs ()</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">10</td><td class="active" align="right">23</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%">
                  </td><td align="center" width="20%">NWE</td><td align="center" width="20%">KAN</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">268</td><td align="center">421</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">64</td><td align="center">185</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">204</td><td align="center">236</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">15</td><td align="center">19</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="center">22</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">112</td><td align="center">81</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">380</td><td align="center">524</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="center">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">5-13</td><td align="center">9-16</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-1</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">1-2</td><td align="center">2-2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">6-35</td><td align="center">3-34</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">27:24</td><td align="center">32:36</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" width="575"><tbody><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="5" bgcolor="#0D254C">New England Patriots</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>T. Brady</td><td align="right">22-37</td><td align="right">232</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>L. Blount</td><td align="right">17</td><td align="right">58</td><td align="right">3.4</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D. Lewis</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="5" bgcolor="#B20032">Kansas City Chiefs</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A. Smith</td><td align="right">22-30</td><td align="right">248</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J. Charles</td><td align="right">29</td><td align="right">185</td><td align="right">6.3</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>A. Smith</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">-6</td><td align="right">-1.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>C. West</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">3.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>

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                  • extremeskins04
                    That's top class!
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 3864

                    #10
                    Re: LordFrieza's M17 CPU vs. CPU Sliders

                    Curious but I noticed you have your Fumbles slider at 15. You do realize that the lower the number, the more fumbles you'll get. I have mine set to 55 and it's great. Maybe 1-2 max a game.

                    How many are you getting per game?

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                    • tsp120
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 197

                      #11
                      Re: LordFrieza's M17 CPU vs. CPU Sliders

                      NFC Championship:

                      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><table class="osdyn" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="6" align="center">Dallas Cowboys at Philadelphia Eagles</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Jan 1, </td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Dallas Cowboys ()</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">19</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Philadelphia Eagles ()</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">19</td><td align="right">3</td><td class="active" align="right">43</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%">
                      </td><td align="center" width="20%">DAL</td><td align="center" width="20%">PHI</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">370</td><td align="center">318</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">69</td><td align="center">75</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">301</td><td align="center">243</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">22</td><td align="center">14</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="center">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">46</td><td align="center">54</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">416</td><td align="center">372</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">2</td><td align="center">2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">7-14</td><td align="center">2-6</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-1</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">2-2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">3-6</td><td align="center">3-3</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">5-47</td><td align="center">3-20</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">36:16</td><td align="center">23:44</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" width="575"><tbody><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="5" bgcolor="#0D254C">Dallas Cowboys</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>T. Romo</td><td align="right">28/42</td><td align="right">306</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>E. Elliot</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">88</td><td align="right">3.2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>T. Romo</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">-22</td><td align="right">-11.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>L. Dunbar</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></tbody></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="5" bgcolor="#003B48">Philadelphia Eagles</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>C. Wentz</td><td align="right">14/17</td><td align="right">252</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>R. Mathews</td><td align="right">23</td><td align="right">63</td><td align="right">2.7</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J. Matthews</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">12.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>


                      I will play the Superbowl tomorrow. But from my sample size of three games I feel like passing needs be toned down a bit and rushing needs to be increased.

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                      • tsp120
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 197

                        #12
                        Re: LordFrieza's M17 CPU vs. CPU Sliders

                        Originally posted by extremeskins04
                        Curious but I noticed you have your Fumbles slider at 15. You do realize that the lower the number, the more fumbles you'll get. I have mine set to 55 and it's great. Maybe 1-2 max a game.

                        How many are you getting per game?
                        In the three games I simmed with these sliders, there were only two fumbles lost. Both in the last game.

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                        • extremeskins04
                          That's top class!
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 3864

                          #13
                          Re: LordFrieza's M17 CPU vs. CPU Sliders

                          Originally posted by tsp120
                          In the three games I simmed with these sliders, there were only two fumbles lost. Both in the last game.
                          Are you simming games or doing Play the Moment on Slow?

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                          • tsp120
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                            • Dec 2005
                            • 197

                            #14
                            Re: LordFrieza's M17 CPU vs. CPU Sliders

                            Originally posted by extremeskins04
                            Are you simming games or doing Play the Moment on Slow?
                            My method is:

                            -Play Full Game
                            -At the kickoff I hit LS
                            -I set the sim speed to Slow
                            -Then I click "Sim to End"
                            -Then I watch the game in its entirety.

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                            • extremeskins04
                              That's top class!
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 3864

                              #15
                              Re: LordFrieza's M17 CPU vs. CPU Sliders

                              Originally posted by tsp120
                              My method is:

                              -Play Full Game
                              -At the kickoff I hit LS
                              -I set the sim speed to Slow
                              -Then I click "Sim to End"
                              -Then I watch the game in its entirety.
                              Interesting.

                              I do it differently, not sure which way is actual cpu v cpu....probably your way.

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