PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

[Thrash13]

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Very true indeed! The Team Edit situation definitely keeps PES in the picture, although it would be a little more leg work on my part.

I've played very little PES in the past, and I played a few games on the demo last night. It's certainly a very smooth game of soccer, but I'm 100% used to FIFA controls. If I choose the PES path, it'll take awhile to get transitioned for sure.

And let's be honest, PES released two weeks earlier. I probably won't be patient enough to pass on PES to wait a couple weeks for FIFA. Haha

[C.J.S.]

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Very true indeed! The Team Edit situation definitely keeps PES in the picture, although it would be a little more leg work on my part.

I've played very little PES in the past, and I played a few games on the demo last night. It's certainly a very smooth game of soccer, but I'm 100% used to FIFA controls. If I choose the PES path, it'll take awhile to get transitioned for sure.

And let's be honest, PES released two weeks earlier. I probably won't be patient enough to pass on PES to wait a couple weeks for FIFA. Haha

it's funny hearing the same thing i said 3 years ago.
but knowing PES controls now they seem so right.
like R1 for sprinting......tap R1 twice and knock the ball foreword, it's more manual controlled than fifa's R2 sprinting.

when you double tap R1 to move the ball ahead and take a shot..... the closer the ball is to your feet the more control on your shot...

[C.J.S.]

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These settings are a game changer for me, and should be Konami's default, so everybody can experience it...
You can really feel the battles...

Here's a video of a game with these settings... YouTubes video compression makes it look faster than it really is...

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camera settings 5 0 10
radar appearance off
player name plate off
game speed 0

i even feel the game speed is slower with this camera angle.

I haven't had a better football game experience....

[BL8001]

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What is so great is watching people play the cpu is very much like watching two people who understand the sport playing each other.

The cpu makes very human like choices, good and bad.

They play surprising passes and crosses and don't go the 100% safe route. It's the "there may be a window" and risky attempts here and there that really make this demo (and hopefully the full game) outstanding.

[RoyceDa59]

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What is so great is watching people play the cpu is very much like watching two people who understand the sport playing each other.

The cpu makes very human like choices, good and bad.

They play surprising passes and crosses and don't go the 100% safe route. It's the "there may be a window" and risky attempts here and there that really make this demo (and hopefully the full game) outstanding.

Man it is back to where every match is different and you never know what to expect no goal is ever the same and it is good to say that again.

[Matt10]

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Goodness though, guys. The space between the defensive line and attackers is starting to get to me. Defenders, including CB's, go past the halfway line IRL, they do not attack and defend at the same time - yet this is what happens in PES 17 demo.

From a positional standpoint, I'm a bit tired of the demo. From pure enjoyment of the ball physics, and player interactions, it makes me want to play more. In the end, I think it's time to put it down and just wait for the full version in a couple weeks.

[C.J.S.]

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Goodness though, guys. The space between the defensive line and attackers is starting to get to me. Defenders, including CB's, go past the halfway line IRL, they do not attack and defend at the same time - yet this is what happens in PES 17 demo.

From a positional standpoint, I'm a bit tired of the demo. From pure enjoyment of the ball physics, and player interactions, it makes me want to play more. In the end, I think it's time to put it down and just wait for the full version in a couple weeks.

the CPU?
play on professional difficulty and see if it happens
maybe it's just demo stuff that will get fixed in full game

[Matt10]

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the CPU?
play on professional difficulty and see if it happens
maybe it's just demo stuff that will get fixed in full game

Yea, I've been playing professional for a while now. Had a big write up about it as well

It's not just demo, it's the issue stemming over from PES 2016. I'll have a video on this. Stay tuned

[dubcity]

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Are CPU teams who play long ball still broken? Last year they were easy to beat (regardless of the team talent level) because there was never a strategy to it, they would just hit it forward whenever they gained possession, resulting in an average pass accuracy of like 60%. Would have worked as a late game strategy down a goal, but it was a game breaker when the CPU played it as their default strategy the whole match.

[C.J.S.]

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Are CPU teams who play long ball still broken? Last year they were easy to beat (regardless of the team talent level) because there was never a strategy to it, they would just hit it forward whenever they gained possession, resulting in an average pass accuracy of like 60%. Would have worked as a late game strategy down a goal, but it was a game breaker when the CPU played it as their default strategy the whole match.

i haven't seen this in 2017 demo

[Matt10]

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Yea, I've been playing professional for a while now. Had a big write up about it as well

It's not just demo, it's the issue stemming over from PES 2016. I'll have a video on this. Stay tuned

Here's the video:

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[Battle4MY]

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Great video Mat. Excellent points.

[Ac3way]

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Play real football, there you see all kind of weird stuff and even watching top level football from tv. 🙂

I get what your saying and agree what you are showing, but i think overall game runs great from pointview of hardcore football fan. There is improvement to made, but looking for errors is bit pointless when we have probably best football game ever made. Of course not everyone has to like game, but i suggest to try enjoying PES 2017 even from it flaws.

My pointview comes from full manual controls and superstar difficulty. I havent even trying top player or professional difficulty at demo.

Edit. I liked to read that post from you about professional difficulty, can you show where is it?

[Matt10]

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Great video Mat. Excellent points.

Thanks, man!

Play real football, there you see all kind of weird stuff and even watching top level football from tv. 🙂

I get what your saying and agree what you are showing, but i think overall game runs great from pointview of hardcore football fan. There is improvement to made, but looking for errors is bit pointless when we have probably best football game ever made. Of course not everyone has to like game, but i suggest to try enjoying PES 2017 even from it flaws.

My pointview comes from full manual controls and superstar difficulty. I havent even trying top player or professional difficulty at demo.

Edit. I liked to read that post from you about professional difficulty, can you show where is it?

I do play real football, have played for years in high school, college and pro. No defender I ever met would attack that way. As an attacker, you make your decision based on what the attacking defenders are doing. You do not expect to be draped in coverage, even when the opponent has the ball and is controlling possession - it's illogical.

I'm not sure what deems "hardcore" football fan, but in my opinion - every element should be covered to be completely hard core. This positioning is far from football, let alone hardcore football. When has a DMF ever stayed that far back...in the attack...just so they can catch the lone striker on transition...when it's inside 20 minutes of a match. Please.

I love this demo, love where we're headed, but I'm not going to be in denial of it's faults. That's how they get better, just like anything in this world.

Here's the link to my professional difficulty thoughts: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...&postcount=149

[elprez98]

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Here's the video:



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I don't know Matt.

I was playing quite a bit the other day and I've seen a CDM inside the 18, when I was already losing 2 or 3 to nil.

As a matter of fact, the video I posted earlier clearly has Busquets "Zidaning" me in the box along with Alves attacking on the wing, and ending the move with pass to Suarez for an easy finish.