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  • KeanuReevesRules
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    • Jan 2015
    • 101

    #1

    46 Defense Scheme?

    I didn't ever noticed until recently that while there are schemes for all sorts of defenses, etc. There aren't any schemes or players in the draft that are designated as 46. Obviously, this is less of a schematic point of view and more of a playbook. Anyone have success with this playbook? If so, what kind of players work best?

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  • Cajungodfather
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    • Aug 2010
    • 299

    #2
    Re: 46 Defense Scheme?

    I think the 46 defense ties into 4-3 players and defensive scheme. You only see 46 formations in 4-3 defenses or multiple formation playbooks.


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    • KeanuReevesRules
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      • Jan 2015
      • 101

      #3
      Re: 46 Defense Scheme?

      Originally posted by Cajungodfather
      I think the 46 defense ties into 4-3 players and defensive scheme. You only see 46 formations in 4-3 defenses or multiple formation playbooks.


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      So in scouting prospects I would look for Attacking 4-3 DL/LB. That makes sense... I'm more concerned with what I should look for in DBs. I am finding that the 46 playbook is basically terrible in pass heavy Madden anymore.

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      • Datninja619
        MVP
        • Jul 2012
        • 1918

        #4
        Re: 46 Defense Scheme?

        Originally posted by KeanuReevesRules
        So in scouting prospects I would look for Attacking 4-3 DL/LB. That makes sense... I'm more concerned with what I should look for in DBs. I am finding that the 46 playbook is basically terrible in pass heavy Madden anymore.

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        As it should be. It's designed to stack the box for runs.
        I haven't played online yet this year, but I think it was madden 25 were people stayed in 46 cover 3 and still was able to stop 4 verts.

        But to answer you question, I'd look for run stopping DTs (high strength and block shed) and Lbs) Block shed and tackle). With formation subs I'd have those type of people's in a 46 defense.

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        • sir lucious lft ft
          Rookie
          • Sep 2010
          • 86

          #5
          Re: 46 Defense Scheme?

          Originally posted by KeanuReevesRules
          So in scouting prospects I would look for Attacking 4-3 DL/LB. That makes sense... I'm more concerned with what I should look for in DBs. I am finding that the 46 playbook is basically terrible in pass heavy Madden anymore.

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          You can look for whatever dbs tickle your fancy. Since they will be on a island most of the time due to your 8, 9 man box the 4-6 shows, you definitely need speed/cover skills. If just depends what style of play calling you plan to use. Mostly zone blitzing go with zone dbs man blitzing, man dbs etc

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          • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
            MVP
            • Dec 2009
            • 4682

            #6
            Re: 46 Defense Scheme?

            Originally posted by KeanuReevesRules
            I didn't ever noticed until recently that while there are schemes for all sorts of defenses, etc. There aren't any schemes or players in the draft that are designated as 46. Obviously, this is less of a schematic point of view and more of a playbook. Anyone have success with this playbook? If so, what kind of players work best?

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            If the 46 in Madden worked like it used to in the 80s in real life, you'd want a fast SS and 3 big linemen and one great outside pass rusher linemen. Usually the 46 involved a NT, the other DT, and the LE playing directly on top of the LG, C and RG (DT and LE might line up on the outside shoulders of the linemen). The SS functioned as a linebacker does in a 4-3 over/under front, and two of your linebackers were at the line of scrimmage, at least one blitzing almost every play.

            In a lot of ways it functioned like a 52, with the two linebackers on the LOS taking the place of a single end, and a single high look in the secondary with the SS replacing a linebacker, except in multi-WR formations, in which case a Jayhawk adjustment is made.
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            • Birdman18
              Flyin' High
              • Feb 2007
              • 59

              #7
              46 Defense Scheme?

              The 46 defense isn't really a viable defense IRL anymore with the small exception of maybe goal line.. Offenses are too good throwing the ball now. Even in the college landscape, teams are more and more lining up hybrid backers and more defensive backs on the field to add more speed to defend the pass.

              With how offenses are changing to pass heavy type of setups, teams aren't running 46 anymore. I think this is why you won't find those types of guys in the madden drafts.


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              • GameBreaker35
                Rookie
                • May 2012
                • 382

                #8
                Re: 46 Defense Scheme?

                46 isn't viable in Madden or the NFL for more than situational downs. I will use it when opponents cross into my ten yard line occasionally; I know that even if the WR beats his man off the line, the CB can still contest the catch.

                Using it as a base defense is pointless because the personnel would end up looking alot like the 43U anyway and that playbook has more options for attacking offenses with coverage and blitzing.

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                • numberFour4ever
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2016
                  • 106

                  #9
                  Re: 46 Defense Scheme?

                  I'm not sure the 46 was ever a viable defense. Buddy Ryan just had an absurdly talented defense.

                  3 HOFrs (Singletary, Hampton, Dent) and 5 guys that were All-Pros in the 80s (Fencik, Duerson, Marshall, Wilson, McMichael)

                  Other than the 60s Packers and 70s Steelers, I can't name a team that can compete with that.

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                  • JoeyV9009
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 57

                    #10
                    Re: 46 Defense Scheme?

                    When I control Seattle, I like to use the 46 playbook because Seattle has tendencies to line up that way on most 1st & 2nd downs. Kam Chancellor creeps into the box, and it leaves Cover 1 or Cover 3 tops, with zone or man under.

                    I don't have a problem with using it, and I honestly love it with Seattle or New England's D, although if you don't have a speedy D it can definitely cause you some headaches.
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                    • catcher_0_3
                      Rookie
                      • May 2011
                      • 449

                      #11
                      Re: 46 Defense Scheme?

                      As an early down run defense I think it could have a place in this game. As Joey stated, it's just and 8 man box which isn't unheard of in the NFL, just look at the Seahawks who usually walk down KC close to the line. Not as close as the 46 Bear does, but the idea is similar. The difference being that you are more susceptible to outside runs to the right if your Strongside defenders can't hold the edge.

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                      • Birdman18
                        Flyin' High
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 59

                        #12
                        Re: 46 Defense Scheme?

                        If you're wanting to walk down the safety, hit Y (triangle) and show blitz.. Brings your safety up and still disguises your coverage


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