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  • Beetlebum
    Rookie
    • Jan 2007
    • 226

    #301
    Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

    What do you guys think about the 'Player emotions' option?
    I usually disable it as I don't want any gimmick to influence AI and gameplay, but I was wondering if anybody sees any difference when it's on and when it's off.

    Maybe enabling it would lead to more fouls late in game when teams are trailing and need to get possession back? It might have some effect to how the game plays.

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    • RoyceDa59
      Chillin
      • Aug 2003
      • 3830

      #302
      Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

      Originally posted by Beetlebum
      What do you guys think about the 'Player emotions' option?
      I usually disable it as I don't want any gimmick to influence AI and gameplay, but I was wondering if anybody sees any difference when it's on and when it's off.

      Maybe enabling it would lead to more fouls late in game when teams are trailing and need to get possession back? It might have some effect to how the game plays.
      I have been keeping it on as well as the random form arrows and it seems to have a good effect of randomness to the gameplay. Although I will say those high form arrows to get some players to play out of their boots.

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      • BL8001
        MVP
        • Jul 2010
        • 1884

        #303
        Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

        I love it on. Not sure I would ever turn it off.

        It's all cosmetic like fifa.

        The day a game has emotions actually affect gameplay is yet to come.

        I enjoy what konami has done with them this year, I find myself feeling what the screen is showing me quite often, a fist pump or a lowered head or wanting to pound the ground after a miss, it's subtle but very much welcomed.
        resident curmudgeon

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        • Beetlebum
          Rookie
          • Jan 2007
          • 226

          #304
          Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

          Originally posted by BL8001
          I love it on. Not sure I would ever turn it off.

          It's all cosmetic like fifa.

          The day a game has emotions actually affect gameplay is yet to come.

          I enjoy what konami has done with them this year, I find myself feeling what the screen is showing me quite often, a fist pump or a lowered head or wanting to pound the ground after a miss, it's subtle but very much welcomed.
          That's the thing... I'd like to be sure it's all cosmetics before turning it on.

          I remember in FIFA 13 or 14 (don't remember which one) when the CPU was losing it enable some sort of 'devil mode' in the last 10 minutes and the players were starting to run twice as fast.

          I'll give it a try though!

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          • Non Idoneo
            Rookie
            • Sep 2015
            • 21

            #305
            Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

            I'm playing the demo and the game is pretty good but in the xbox one version suffer a little frame-rate drops, do you see that problem?

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            • papinho81
              Pro
              • Feb 2015
              • 673

              #306
              Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

              Have you guys seen any straight red card either from the user or the cpu?
              I do think refs are ok (good?) with calling fouls but they are terrible at giving red cards. They simply don't give any reds and instead always give yellows when you commit or endure an aggression (there is no other words when your players is tackle from behind). It is the same thing when you or cpu commit a foul with the last defender. Sadly this is a wrong implementation of the rules of this game and it removes all the risk of stopping a player that goes alone on goal direction (Yeah let's just kill that boy I will only get a yellow...).

              On a very different topic I find very hard to play with Barcelona. I lost often with a large margin almost all the game I played with. My opponent seems to have such an easy time at contenting my attacks but also manage VERY easily to break me with long balls on the back of the defense. I know is the way others teams try to plays against FCB IRL but they rarely manage to achieve it. Also I don't manage to produce the same pressing the cpu does when using FCB.

              With the deflection of the GK these are the only "issues" (FCB thing might be related to tactic and learning curve...) I have with this game. I am loving it! Such a joy to play! I am also very exited and impatient to get the full release! Twelve days left!!
              Last edited by papinho81; 09-03-2016, 06:34 AM.

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              • RoyceDa59
                Chillin
                • Aug 2003
                • 3830

                #307
                Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                Originally posted by papinho81
                Have you guys seen any straight red card either from the user or the cpu?
                I do think refs are ok (good?) with calling fouls but they are terrible at giving red cards. They simply don't give any reds and instead always give yellows when you commit or endure an aggression (there is no other words when your players is tackle from behind). It is the same thing when you or cpu commit a foul with the last defender. Sadly this is a wrong implementation of the rules of this game and it removes all the risk of stopping a player that goes alone on goal direction (Yeah let's just kill that boy I will only get a yellow...).

                On a very different topic I find very hard to play with Barcelona. I lost often with a large margin almost all the game I played with. My opponent seems to have such an easy time at contenting my attacks but also manage VERY easily to break me with long balls on the back of the defense. I know is the way others teams try to plays against FCB IRL but they rarely manage to achieve it. Also I don't manage to produce the same pressing the cpu does when using FCB.

                With the deflection of the GK these are the only "issues" (FCB thing might be related to tactic and learning curve...) I have with this game. I am loving it! Such a joy to play! I am also very exited and impatient to get the full release! Twelve days left!!
                I have seen a total of 3 straight red cards 2 by the Cpu and 1 by me. I suprised when they were given but it is definitely there.

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                • Goonerslg
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 66

                  #308
                  Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                  Originally posted by papinho81
                  Have you guys seen any straight red card either from the user or the cpu?
                  I do think refs are ok (good?) with calling fouls but they are terrible at giving red cards. They simply don't give any reds and instead always give yellows when you commit or endure an aggression (there is no other words when your players is tackle from behind). It is the same thing when you or cpu commit a foul with the last defender. Sadly this is a wrong implementation of the rules of this game and it removes all the risk of stopping a player that goes alone on goal direction (Yeah let's just kill that boy I will only get a yellow...).

                  On a very different topic I find very hard to play with Barcelona. I lost often with a large margin almost all the game I played with. My opponent seems to have such an easy time at contenting my attacks but also manage VERY easily to break me with long balls on the back of the defense. I know is the way others teams try to plays against FCB IRL but they rarely manage to achieve it. Also I don't manage to produce the same pressing the cpu does when using FCB.

                  With the deflection of the GK these are the only "issues" (FCB thing might be related to tactic and learning curve...) I have with this game. I am loving it! Such a joy to play! I am also very exited and impatient to get the full release! Twelve days left!!
                  Got a straight red against Barcelona yesterday for a poor tackle inside the area on the 9th minute.

                  They scored the resulting penalty and went on to beat me 4-0!

                  Still enjoyed the match though which speaks volumes for how good I think this game is

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                  • Gnemi
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 1519

                    #309
                    Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                    I hate to ask such a stupid question, but where can I customize controls in the demo? Or is it even possible? I mostly want to switch to manual or change the assisted settings, but it would be nice to bind the keys to be more like FIFA as well.


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                    • papinho81
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 673

                      #310
                      Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                      Originally posted by Gnemi
                      I hate to ask such a stupid question, but where can I customize controls in the demo? Or is it even possible? I mostly want to switch to manual or change the assisted settings, but it would be nice to bind the keys to be more like FIFA as well.


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                      Hi Gnemi!

                      Right at the controller selection you can customize the controls. If you are on PS4 you just push square when you see your controller then you can select your assistance levels for passes and so on. For the through balls I recommend you to use basics as it is the closest to fifa. Also if you want to change the commands configuration I think you have to push triangle on the top list option of the command menu.

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                      • phillyfan23
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 2306

                        #311
                        Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                        Played the demo, still the same cpu ai issues :

                        1) lack of crossing by the cpu, which leads to

                        2) overdribbling from the flanks to the box resulting in a bad angle weak shot attempt.



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                        • elprez98
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 4237

                          #312
                          PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

                          Just preordered PES 2017 on Amazon. Only 47 bucks with Amazon Prime and delivered on release day.
                          Originally posted by My Wife
                          "The Celtics only won because they have a magical elf playing for their team...."

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                          • tilburylfc
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 11

                            #313
                            First attempt at PES

                            I just decided to give PES a try this year. I understand i am new and suck.

                            I am playing on manual shot/pass, -1 speed, Professional difficulty.
                            I have a lot of trouble with player reaction. I press the shot or pass button and it feels like they wait to kick it. Like they let the ball bounce or take an extra touch instead of a one touch pass.

                            It seems like my players just have a slower reaction to ball. When there is a loose ball, sometimes my player just jogs for it til the cpu gets it, then starts sprinting. Today i was scored on in the 85th minute from a cross because my defender just didnt jump for the ball. the power ball was maxed, but he just stood there and gave the attacker a free header, i couldnt even move him in goal side position. Does PES have ai scripting like fifa? the entire series ahead of it had the feeling of "you are getting scored on, so you might as well throw the controller now". it makes me feel like i have zero control, i couldnt even foul the winger. and believe me i tried.

                            I also struggle with the ball at my feet. The cpu runs up and takes it from me with zero effort. i can seem to be able to "shield" or protect the ball. Sprinting results in the cpu running faster and taking it, and controlling it results in them running around me and taking it. also i cant do skill moves to safe my life.

                            AI is blatantly faster than i am. Break aways are ended before i even get to the box. I had a newly subbed on already sprinting theo walcott outran by laurent koscielny on a thru ball.

                            Is there a way to send players on a run? I am frustrated when i see a player making a diagonal then stop while im charge the pass power. i give the ball away so much that way.

                            Last thing, Is there a way to "control" your first touch? It feels so heavy, even a soft pass, my player has to "chase" his first touch.

                            I really need a tutorial.

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                            • eskimos44
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 280

                              #314
                              Re: First attempt at PES

                              Originally posted by tilburylfc
                              I just decided to give PES a try this year. I understand i am new and suck.

                              I am playing on manual shot/pass, -1 speed, Professional difficulty.
                              I have a lot of trouble with player reaction. I press the shot or pass button and it feels like they wait to kick it. Like they let the ball bounce or take an extra touch instead of a one touch pass.

                              It seems like my players just have a slower reaction to ball. When there is a loose ball, sometimes my player just jogs for it til the cpu gets it, then starts sprinting. Today i was scored on in the 85th minute from a cross because my defender just didnt jump for the ball. the power ball was maxed, but he just stood there and gave the attacker a free header, i couldnt even move him in goal side position. Does PES have ai scripting like fifa? the entire series ahead of it had the feeling of "you are getting scored on, so you might as well throw the controller now". it makes me feel like i have zero control, i couldnt even foul the winger. and believe me i tried.

                              I also struggle with the ball at my feet. The cpu runs up and takes it from me with zero effort. i can seem to be able to "shield" or protect the ball. Sprinting results in the cpu running faster and taking it, and controlling it results in them running around me and taking it. also i cant do skill moves to safe my life.

                              AI is blatantly faster than i am. Break aways are ended before i even get to the box. I had a newly subbed on already sprinting theo walcott outran by laurent koscielny on a thru ball.

                              Is there a way to send players on a run? I am frustrated when i see a player making a diagonal then stop while im charge the pass power. i give the ball away so much that way.

                              Last thing, Is there a way to "control" your first touch? It feels so heavy, even a soft pass, my player has to "chase" his first touch.

                              I really need a tutorial.
                              I'm right there with you 100%... I'm also new to the game... I rarely have possession due to the CPU always being faster than me.
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                              • Thrash13
                                MVP
                                • May 2005
                                • 1133

                                #315
                                Re: First attempt at PES

                                I'm also new to the series, and I'm also not very good. Nonetheless, I keep playing in Professional because it flows better than the easier level.

                                I'm actually having pretty good success keeping possession, but I'm not a very good finisher. I usually end up losing 2-0, 1-0, or 2-1. I got hammered 4-0 by Arsenal playing as Boca, but that's half expected. Haha

                                I just need a lot more work at it, but I've improved since I started playing last week. I tried manual shoot, but I was way off. So I put that back to basic for now.

                                I still haven't decided if I'm going to wait for FIFA 17 or buy PES 2017 at release, but this demo just feels so much more like soccer than anything I've felt with FIFA. I have fun with both, don't get me wrong. PES just feels so much more natural.

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