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  • slickdtc
    Grayscale
    • Aug 2004
    • 17125

    #1

    Which Teams Are Overrated/Underrated?

    Pretty simple concept. Which teams do you think are getting too much hype coming in to 2016 and which ones are people sleeping on?

    Teams may be overrated but still good enough to win a division and make playoffs, just as an underrated team may miss out but be a lot better then people are expecting.

    Overrated:
    GB
    CAR
    PIT
    OAK
    KC
    HOU

    Underrated:
    IND
    SD
    DEN
    DET

    Up top, I've been seeing a lot of SB predictions for Carolina and I think everyone is still stuck in 2015 with that. Still see a division title, but not the 15-1 powerhouse we saw last year. Same deal for PIT, that defense does not inspire confidence but Ben/Antonio/LeVeon will probably score them to the playoffs. I feel similar on GB, but see them surprisingly miss out on the playoffs. Oakland is getting too much hype for their own good, and while KC may be the best of the West bunch, I'm not certain they will be able to replicate last year. They started 1-5 and got stupid hot... what happens if they don't? To round it out, Houston barely won that terrible division last year, just not certain on them. Of this bunch, I see them embarrassing me the most with this prediction because that roster looks good on both sides.

    On the bottom, I only see Denver making the playoffs of the group. Their defense will continue to be ridiculously good, and will carry them to a WC as long as their QB situation doesn't become a turnover machine (and exactly why Sanchez was shown the door). The South seems wide open, but it was the Colts for so long and Luck is still there. Probably a year away on JAC and a couple with TEN, so I could see IND sneaking up on everyone. SD has been ravaged by injuries over the last few years, but Rivers continues to be a great QB. If the defense gives them anything, they could be a surprise. Lastly, I'm buying that late hot streak by Detroit. They simplified things offensively and it benefitted their whole cast. It's funny to think CJ is gone but their offense may be more balanced for it.

    What are your overrated/underrated? BRING ON THE HATE.
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    Originally posted by Money99
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  • numberFour4ever
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    • Aug 2016
    • 106

    #2
    Re: Which Teams Are Overrated/Underrated?

    I think the Packers are grossly overrated.

    I've been re-watching the Americas Game series, it's amazing how the talent pool has dried up in Green Bay after their 2010 Super Bowl win.

    Arizona isn't going to win anything of significance.

    The real Carson Palmer was on full display on January 24th. The Cards are a very good team, perhaps the fullest cupboard in the League. But when the chips are down, Palmer won't get it done. He barely made it to the NFCC Game last year. It took another Titanic Packers defensive meltdown to get him there.

    I think Oakland and Jacksonville will make their move this year. I won't be surprised if they both win 10 games.

    And the Seahawks are underrated.

    4 years in a row with the #1 scoring defense. Perhaps the most under-appreciated stats of my lifetime.

    If that D was in New York, Dallas, or Puttsburgh, nobody would shut up about it. They'd be runaway favorites to win the Super Bowl.
    Last edited by numberFour4ever; 09-07-2016, 09:11 PM.

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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #3
      Which Teams Are Overrated/Underrated?

      People don't shut up about Seattle's Defense, lmao
      Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 09-07-2016, 07:10 PM.
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      • rkwittem
        MVP
        • Jun 2011
        • 2265

        #4
        Re: Which Teams Are Overrated/Underrated?

        Overrated:

        Pittsburgh
        Jacksonville (why are people trying to make this team happen? I don't get it.)
        Kansas City
        Indianapolis

        Underrated:
        Denver
        Miami
        San Diego

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        • numberFour4ever
          Banned
          • Aug 2016
          • 106

          #5
          Re: Which Teams Are Overrated/Underrated?

          Originally posted by rkwittem
          Jacksonville (why are people trying to make this team happen? I don't get it.)
          Bortles is in his 3rd year as a starter, which has historically been the point where QBs become elite.

          They were 14th in points last year, 18th in yards. No reason they can't be a top 10 unit this year with all their talent.

          They had 5 top 50 draft picks starting on D last year, *without* Dante Fowler. They landed the best corner in the draft, and Myles Jack was a steal. It looks like they have the horses to jump to being a middle-of-the-road D. (31st last year)

          In this day and age, that's enough to be a Super Bowl contender.

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          • Jr.
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            • Feb 2003
            • 19171

            #6
            Re: Which Teams Are Overrated/Underrated?

            Originally posted by slickdtc
            Up top, I've been seeing a lot of SB predictions for Carolina and I think everyone is still stuck in 2015 with that. Still see a division title, but not the 15-1 powerhouse we saw last year.
            Is there a particular reason you don't think they'll be as good? Not necessarily record-wise because I don't think they'll go 15-1 either (I'm guessing 16-0 perfect season SB Champs), but talent-wise.
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            • SPTO
              binging
              • Feb 2003
              • 68046

              #7
              Re: Which Teams Are Overrated/Underrated?

              Overrated:

              GB
              SEA
              CAR
              KC
              AZ



              Underrated

              OAK
              HOU
              BUF (if no major injuries)
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              • slickdtc
                Grayscale
                • Aug 2004
                • 17125

                #8
                Which Teams Are Overrated/Underrated?

                Originally posted by Jr.
                Is there a particular reason you don't think they'll be as good? Not necessarily record-wise because I don't think they'll go 15-1 either (I'm guessing 16-0 perfect season SB Champs), but talent-wise.


                The ups and downs year to year in the NFL. It's hard to count on a team to be good year in and year out and we fall in to the trap of just assuming what happened last year will happen this year.

                Not sure if the defense can keep up their play with the roster strategy they employ. They've got great pieces in the front 7 but the backend could easily regress without Norman if their replacement options don't step up. I believe they're paying their safeties the lowest amount in the NFL. Can they squeeze out the same production? I know they believe in the younger DB's they're starting this season but I want to see it on the field.

                What will keep them competitive and still atop the South is their coaching IMO. McDermott staying put this offseason was great for them m, and Rivera's ascension has been noted.

                And when you have Newton at QB, you've got a chance plus the return of Benjamin and I'm looking at Funchess to make an impact this year as well.

                Just not ready to crown them in the NFC. I like Arizona a lot, Seattle and Minnesota more. And it's just straight up hard to go to back to back SB's with that target on your back. Obviously, no team is perfect and none of the named are head and shoulders above another so it wouldn't surprise me to see Carolina right there again. Just not chalking it up yet.
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                Originally posted by Money99
                And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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                • Yeah...THAT Guy
                  Once in a Lifetime Memory
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 17294

                  #9
                  Re: Which Teams Are Overrated/Underrated?

                  Going off Vegas O/U's

                  Overrated (meaning at least 1.5 games higher than my projection):
                  Baltimore (8.5)
                  Chicago (7.5)
                  Jacksonville (7.5)
                  Los Angeles (7.5)
                  Philly (6.5)
                  San Fran (5.5)

                  Underrated (at least 1.5 games lower than my projection):
                  Arizona (9.5)
                  Buffalo (8)
                  Cleveland (4.5)
                  New England (10.5)
                  Pittsburgh (10.5)
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                  • wwharton
                    *ll St*r
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 26949

                    #10
                    Re: Which Teams Are Overrated/Underrated?

                    Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                    Going off Vegas O/U's

                    Overrated (meaning at least 1.5 games higher than my projection):
                    Baltimore (8.5)
                    Chicago (7.5)
                    Jacksonville (7.5)
                    Los Angeles (7.5)
                    Philly (6.5)
                    San Fran (5.5)

                    Underrated (at least 1.5 games lower than my projection):
                    Arizona (9.5)
                    Buffalo (8)
                    Cleveland (4.5)
                    New England (10.5)
                    Pittsburgh (10.5)
                    I know this is stupid to say but Vegas is smoking something with just about all of those predictions (even still, gotta disagree with your take of Pitt winning 12+ games)

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                    • TheShizNo1
                      Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 26341

                      #11
                      Re: Which Teams Are Overrated/Underrated?

                      Overrated:
                      Carolina
                      Atlanta
                      New Orleans

                      Underrated:
                      Tampa Bay
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                      • rkwittem
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 2265

                        #12
                        Re: Which Teams Are Overrated/Underrated?

                        Originally posted by numberFour4ever
                        Bortles is in his 3rd year as a starter, which has historically been the point where QBs become elite.

                        They were 14th in points last year, 18th in yards. No reason they can't be a top 10 unit this year with all their talent.

                        They had 5 top 50 draft picks starting on D last year, *without* Dante Fowler. They landed the best corner in the draft, and Myles Jack was a steal. It looks like they have the horses to jump to being a middle-of-the-road D. (31st last year)

                        In this day and age, that's enough to be a Super Bowl contender.
                        No, it's not. WRs do not win games for you. The vast majority are decided by QB and line play, and I have doubts about all 3. Bortles is a classic garbage time QB who piles up lots of yards and TDs inefficiently.

                        Bortles simply wasn't that great last year and teams had a whole summer to get a good long look at him. So yeah, he's improved from year 1 to year 2 but it wasn't that big a jump.

                        Not to mention their coach is 0-17 versus playoff teams. That's not exactly encouraging either.
                        Last edited by rkwittem; 09-10-2016, 10:28 PM.

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                        • ggsimmonds
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 11235

                          #13
                          Re: Which Teams Are Overrated/Underrated?

                          Originally posted by numberFour4ever
                          Bortles is in his 3rd year as a starter, which has historically been the point where QBs become elite.

                          They were 14th in points last year, 18th in yards. No reason they can't be a top 10 unit this year with all their talent.

                          They had 5 top 50 draft picks starting on D last year, *without* Dante Fowler. They landed the best corner in the draft, and Myles Jack was a steal. It looks like they have the horses to jump to being a middle-of-the-road D. (31st last year)

                          In this day and age, that's enough to be a Super Bowl contender.
                          Are you repeating that because it is said so often that it is cliche?

                          I don't think QBs make any more of a jump in their 3rd year than any other year.

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                          • numberFour4ever
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2016
                            • 106

                            #14
                            Re: Which Teams Are Overrated/Underrated?

                            Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                            Are you repeating that because it is said so often that it is cliche?

                            I don't think QBs make any more of a jump in their 3rd year than any other year.
                            It's been true for many elite QBs statistically over the years;

                            Randall Cunningham
                            Brett Favre
                            Drew Brees
                            Peyton Manning
                            Phillip Rivers

                            And look at some of the guys who won the Super Bowl in their 3rd year;

                            Roger Staubach
                            Joe Montana
                            Eli Manning
                            Tom Brady

                            Is it the end-all be-all threshold? No. But there is something to the statement, obviously.

                            I expect big things from Bortles this year.

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                            • ggsimmonds
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 11235

                              #15
                              Re: Which Teams Are Overrated/Underrated?

                              Originally posted by numberFour4ever
                              It's been true for many elite QBs statistically over the years;

                              Randall Cunningham
                              Brett Favre
                              Drew Brees
                              Peyton Manning
                              Phillip Rivers

                              And look at some of the guys who won the Super Bowl in their 3rd year;

                              Roger Staubach
                              Joe Montana
                              Eli Manning
                              Tom Brady

                              Is it the end-all be-all threshold? No. But there is something to the statement, obviously.

                              I expect big things from Bortles this year.
                              Cunningham -- 1st year starting.
                              Favre -- Numbers nearly identical to year 2
                              Brees -- missed five games, but numbers were down from previous year
                              Manning -- Noticeable increase in production in year 3, but in year 4 the numbers were back to year 2 levels. It was year 2 when he made his "jump".
                              Rivers -- first year starting.

                              Eli didn't win the SB in his 3rd year. Also, his 3rd year was not any different from any other year.

                              Brady did not win the SB his 3rd year either. There was a noticeable increase in his production.

                              QBs do not make a jump in their 3rd year.
                              Last edited by ggsimmonds; 09-13-2016, 06:44 PM.

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