FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

[TeleTex82]

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Not sure what people were expecting. Even with Frostbite, which if we are honest was just implemented in the lighting and sound departments, you still have the same group of devs programming the game. The AI is the same hot stinkijg mess as the last few years, no variety in CPU attack, no individuality, no creativity. If you wanted to see how the shielding would be implemented you only had to see the CPU taking the ball to the corner flag in the last few minutes in FIFA 16, Jesus Tap Dancing Christ himself couldnt get the ball back, the OP through balls. Of the games I have played and watched i have seen a ludicrously high percentage of goals and opportunities come from the through ball, its just the same crappy game in a new wrapper. Players still move like a mixture of a person with severe parkinsons and Leonardo Di Caprio during the Qualuude scene in Wolf of Wall Street. EA knows that the game will sell because the FUT gimmick. Which says everything, when your target audience get more excited by pack openings than what the game actually plays like, why would you waste time and resources on something most people buying your game wont be bothered to notice? I have onwed every single FIfa, ever, but that ends with 17. Perhaps if i was a 12 year old with stunted hormones and severe ADHD, who knew nothing of what real football is supposed to be like I might feel different.

[Simaofan-20]

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I had plenty of fouls. As I posted above cpu D is more tight and they also slide tackle more.

I've experienced just the opposite. Strange

[BL8001]

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You have to keep in mind the games are 4 min halves. Not only will the CPU play differently on longer games, but so will we. Keep that in mind.

My concern with this is that if the shorter demo halves are condensed match action, should we not be seeing MORE AI activity in the demo?

And if we make the halves longer it chills out the cpu. Which is the opposite of what needs to happen with the gameplay.

[JHedges2]

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My concern with this is that if the shorter demo halves are condensed match action, should we not be seeing MORE AI activity in the demo?

And if we make the halves longer it chills out the cpu. Which is the opposite of what needs to happen with the gameplay.

You have a fair point--but I think it's likely time wasted thinking about what may or may not happen with longer halves, on--more importantly, a different build of the game.

My opinion is that they do themselves a disservice giving us only 4 minute halves. There's NO WAY to get a 'feel' for how the game will be w/ 4 minute halves.

In other news, Schweinsteiger an 86 OVR? The heck...?

[RoyceDa59]

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Played three matches last night on World Class difficulty two Juve vs Inter matches and one Bayern vs. Chelsea match. Right off the back I was impressed with how Frostbite engine looked especially those close up shots on the players. As someone who just didn't care for Fifa player models I feel like they are at a point when I am almost pleased with them and I know for a fact they will only get better in the future. The colors of the stadiums, the ad boards and lighting look really good and almost make me feel I was in the stadium BUT as soon as the match starts and the players start moving it literally kills the whole immersion for me lol.

I can't fully judge it but something just doesn't feel right and these 4 minute matches don't give me enough time to really even get in the match but for some reason shooting and passing just doesn't feels right as the ball physics just look off to me. The first two matches I played against Inter they just kept the ball played short passes the whole time and ended up with 95% and not one shot attempt on goal. The last match gave me hope against Chelsea as they actually played different with a few lobbed passes over the top mixed in with some crosses and finished the game with 84% passing. That game was a little more enjoyable but I felt like could easily through pass over the top their defence. I hope to play more tonight and will post more impressions but initially I wasn't too impressed with the gameplay I surely didn't give it enough time so I am eager to jump back in.

[Entiae]

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I played a game on "The Journey"
And instead of controlling A Hunter,I controlled the whole team,since I play both player and manager career on 15-16 that's a good base to compare this to 16.
And compared to the exhibition game,the game plays so much better,still very much like 16, but slightly better,CPU not being crisp in passing,made more mistakes tan in kick off mode.
But not a wow effect,and I wasn't able do judge how the CPU played (long short) since you only get 10 FIFA minutes to play that mode.
But huge difference between kickoff and Cm.

Did anyone else try this?

[nunogomes]

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- The AI is laughable. Playing on Legendary and they just run circles without creating chances. Dribbling, dribbling, going back and forth without a reason.

Honest, no irony or disdain question:

Isn´t this exactly what was happening last year with the CPU offense? I remember a post of mine saying those exact same words here, and this was the reason why i abandoned FIFA very early last year (also abandoned PES early because, mainly, of the R2 placed shot sure goal).

FIFA CPU offense last year felt without any purpose, desire to score, almost no shot´s from outside except first-time shot´s, 90%+ pass accuracy but no goals/shot´s to show for it, no misplaced risky passes...

My opinion is that they do themselves a disservice giving us only 4 minute halves. There's NO WAY to get a 'feel' for how the game will be w/ 4 minute halves.

I honestly believe this is absolutely intentional! The short halves. I mean, it´s absolutely enough to be mesmerized with the graphics, lightining, presentation, commentary, sound, wich are all awesome... and it´s juuuuust enough for most people not having a chance to see the AI offense problems. Of course, people who have been playing FIFA for a long time, will immediately see how bad the AI offense is, but for the most part, the short halves do make it difficult for people to notice it.

[fearwhatnow]

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@nunogomes : Nope. Cpu AI offensively was great last year compared to other years. Direct passing, less dribbling, long shots, crosses, etc. It was a joy for me to play EPL in Fifa 16. Not perfect but I had fun. Now after 10+ matches it really feels like EA went back to 2009 at least regarding Cpu AI.
I'll wait for some extended impressions from Matt but I have a feeling he's also massively disappointed by the AI.

[KG]

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I've experienced just the opposite. Strange

I haven't seen too many fouls either. Sometimes it's hard to get close to the CPU attackers on the higher levels though and my FIFA strategy is mainly geared at avoiding contact.

[nunogomes]

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@nunogomes : Nope. Cpu AI offensively was great last year compared to other years. Direct passing, less dribbling, long shots, crosses, etc. It was a joy for me to play EPL in Fifa 16. Not perfect but I had fun. Now after 10+ matches it really feels like EA went back to 2009 at least regarding Cpu AI.
I'll wait for some extended impressions from Matt but I have a feeling he's also massively disappointed by the AI.

Honestly, i have never experienced that last year, no long shots, no variety on CPU offense, no risk, no difference between teams, too much ball hogging and passing around... so, this year feels like last year to me. But many people enjoyed last year game, so i guess it´s my point of view.

[DirtyCobra]

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Is it just me, or does the computer take every single corner kick short? Is anyone else noticing this?

[MJH]

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I played a couple of matches but had to turn it off, it was just boring.


I do like the presentation and manager visuals, but after the first game I was over it. It just wasn't fun to play. I prefer the feel of 16, if I'm honest.


Gonna try The Journey tonight and see how it goes.

[bredfan]

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Honestly, i have never experienced that last year, no long shots, no variety on CPU offense, no risk, no difference between teams, too much ball hogging and passing around... so, this year feels like last year to me. But many people enjoyed last year game, so i guess it´s my point of view.

I agree with you.

When I play Fifa the CPU is almost never a threat organically. If I kept track of how many times the CPU beat me in possession but didn't even take one shot, or scored on their only shot (most times shortly after I score or near 45/90 minutes), it would be a landslide in favor of that.

In fairness, the pattern isn't as noticeable unless you play career mode, but since that's all I play, it's a total drag.

[heroies]

Well this is my short review . Let me start with pes gameplay wise is just way better than FIFA. And I have been buying both games every year from the time the started making them only cause I've never been on a budget and I practically only play all sports games from nba to NHL go madden. And ppl who moaned about pes not having licences well it's pretty easy to put em in with the option files. The think I like about pes is the games feel way more exciting then FIFA. The ball weight is just perfect . FIFA just feels a bit of a drag but I would still buy both. I'm disappointed in FIFA but it's still a must buy . For me

[nunogomes]

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I agree with you.

When I play Fifa the CPU is almost never a threat organically. If I kept track of how many times the CPU beat me in possession but didn't even take one shot, or scored on their only shot (most times shortly after I score or near 45/90 minutes), it would be a landslide in favor of that.

In fairness, the pattern isn't as noticeable unless you play career mode, but since that's all I play, it's a total drag.

Yeah, that was my experience too. Also in career mode.