FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

[BL8001]

Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

So something I noticed from playing both the Xbox One and PS4 versions of this demo is that the PS4 demo is much more crisp. The colors are much better, the framerate seemed more consistent, and on the Xbox One version I got more of a hazy view during the cutscenes. I also noticed that the video at the end of the Journey mode game was extremely choppy on the X1 version and not on the PS4 version at all.

I was strictly X1 for this but I might switch it over to PS4 for these reasons.

I debated posting these exact same thoughts but I didn't want to start a console war.

I concur with you though.

I fired up both and sat at the team select screen where you choose kits, both had the exact same player standing at the exact same angle. I then just flipped my tv input back and forth between the two, comparing.

It's not a huge difference but once you see the difference you can't unsee it.

The lighting in the game has a more realistic "power" to it on the PS4. To me playing at century under the sun it looked much more correct on ps4 than on the xbox one. You can almost feel the warmth. There is just this more realistic lighting presence throughout everything on PS4 that makes it have more clarity and depth.

I have all my FCC and whatever fut rewards on xbox one. But the PS4 just plays better.

One other thing, see if you think so too, I felt like the game was more responsive using the PS4 controller.

[BatsBike1314]

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You're right. I just saw Hunter on Manchester City in a pic.

This is great news. So I'll just join the worst PL team.

noo, that move is for me ..
what team .. ?!

[dubcity]

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Something to note.

We know from EA's words that after 15 came out they split dev teams and one focused on 16 and one team started the transition to the frostbite engine in 17. They stated that 17 has been in development for 2 years.

I am feeling a lot of deja vu with 15. Which makes sense because they most likely pulled the 15 code over to 17. Speed being back, the player models lean more towards 15 than 16, fouls being more like 15 etc.

The whole game has the new frostbite "shine" on it plus whatever other AI and new feature tweaks they did. IMHO this is why the AI is behaving the way it is. It's 15 with some 16 things stuck on it with 17 things added.

To me they've been alternating between more arcade-y and less arcade-y each year since FIFA 11, so this makes sense. Seeing clips on YouTube of guys making stupid OP solo runs reminiscent of FIFA 13 and 15. Feels like this game is built for UT/online gameplay.

[mistermod]

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Tried it and impressions are a mixed bag.
Front end is still boring, but that's just a cosmetic.
Gameplay feels smoother and more engaging than 16, but still too fast for me.
Passing feels much improved. Quite like the new penalty system.
Not fussed on the graphics and animations. They look a little glidey, judderey and too robotic.
As with most Fifas I just can't get a decent camera angle. Either too far away and look like ants, or too close and you cannot see the field too well.
Frostbite seems to have added little and the journey looked mighty cringeworthy.
Will wait till it comes down in price as it just too expensive year on year.
The fut cash cow can go away in jerky movements.

[KingTocco]

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I debated posting these exact same thoughts but I didn't want to start a console war.

I concur with you though.

I fired up both and sat at the team select screen where you choose kits, both had the exact same player standing at the exact same angle. I then just flipped my tv input back and forth between the two, comparing.

It's not a huge difference but once you see the difference you can't unsee it.

The lighting in the game has a more realistic "power" to it on the PS4. To me playing at century under the sun it looked much more correct on ps4 than on the xbox one. You can almost feel the warmth. There is just this more realistic lighting presence throughout everything on PS4 that makes it have more clarity and depth.

I have all my FCC and whatever fut rewards on xbox one. But the PS4 just plays better.

One other thing, see if you think so too, I felt like the game was more responsive using the PS4 controller.

No worries, didn't want to make it a console war either, just some impressions from both.

I didn't really notice more responsiveness from either controller actually. I thought both were fairly laggy. Even something as simple as a ball roll skill move seems delayed on both systems, I was having a hard time skilling.

I'm really undecided on which system to go with for the game. Your FCC and stuff should carry over if you have a PS4 account linked to the same origin account as well, not sure if you do. The only thing that isn't the same between the two is your actual FUT club.

[WhiteBunny]

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Played three matches last night on World Class difficulty two Juve vs Inter matches and one Bayern vs. Chelsea match. Right off the back I was impressed with how Frostbite engine looked especially those close up shots on the players. As someone who just didn't care for Fifa player models I feel like they are at a point when I am almost pleased with them and I know for a fact they will only get better in the future.

Player models are exactly the same of previous years. The difference is the lighting and how it reflects on player models. And basically, that's all the Frostbite we get in this Fifa.
It was the same with Pes. In Pes 2014 the Fox Engine was slightly there ( only lighting ), in 2015 was better and so in 2016. But only this year you have a Pes powered with Fox Engine. With development cycle of 8-10 months, software transition is slow, a difficult task. And that's the reason why generally sport games run with really old engines and some middleware to enanche the experience.

[Resurrection403]

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jesus. i watched a dudes youtube video of inter vs juve. same commentary to a tee. game looks identical with some minor tweaks. boring.

100% will not buy this year. EA can bilk someone else out of their money.

[BONDAGE19]

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Computer AI is terrible -

Played on Legendary as Gamba Osaka vs Real

Won 2-0

They had 95% passing accuracy and 1 shot on goal?

Seriously Ronaldo and Bale up front and the AI didnt have the skill or bottle to play any of them in!!

Played further games and what followed was very similar results after another 8 games...

Obviously there is no sliders in the demo but even if there was it kind of feels like forcing or cheating to make all computer AI play better or worse. Essentially making every team play exactly the same when you settle on one slider setting which can be very boring during career mode.

Surely the built in tactics should be the sliders for each team? Making each team individual and unique..
After all isn't that what football is all about each side has its own strengths and weaknesses and its all about tactics and figuring a way to stop there strengths and attack there weakness.

Career mode without any added features but a varied computer AI would make a whole lot of difference to the mode itself.

But instead they have added a new set piece rewrite to a system i personally thought wasn't broken in the first place.

Obviously FIFA is made for packs and online ultimate team but maybe once the journey fails with online users giving it a go(bad opponent AI) they might start to listen for the "journey 2"?

FIFA 18 - Improved AI
FIFA 17 - Online users
PES 17 - Offline users

Peace

Further example to back it up search - Fifa 17 DEMO AI demonstration into youtube

[KingTocco]

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jesus. i watched a dudes youtube video of inter vs juve. same commentary to a tee. game looks identical with some minor tweaks. boring.

100% will not buy this year. EA can bilk someone else out of their money.

You should try playing it yourself before saying that. It's a lot different IMO and this is a demo, the actual game will probably be a bit different from the demo too.

[JayD]

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Pace of play is way too fast, no strategy at all, no build up , crappy career mode. Enjoy FUT players, on to PES.

[Chrisx]

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I'm on PC and finally figured out how to play the demo with 10 minute halves instead of 4. Boy oh boy did that increase my enjoyment of the game. Ok it doesn't transform it into an awesome game. Most gameplay complaints are still valid. The AI can be wonky and with little creativity, pass speed can be too fast, defence in the box would make mourinho have a heart attack.

But I now feel that 17 can be a decent upgrade to 16 or something even better if EA patches are in the right direction. I think it's fair to list some things that I really liked:

- Player switching is instant and the player you switch to is immediately responsive. Massive improvement, it was laggy in 16 for me.

- The loose ball ADD seems to be gone. In my last game I noticed a player not under my control sprint towards a deflected ball in midfield! It may sound funny to be amazed by what should be basic logic but still...

- In 16 teammates made many stupid runs when I launched a cross (crosses seem improved in general) into the box or a through ball, paying no attention to the ball and often been called offside. This doesn't happen in 17 and it's great because the game does not reset itself so often and keeps it's flow.

There's probably more, but overall it's a mixed bag. The million $ question for me will be "what about CM mode? will all games against all teams feel like you're playing the same game over and over?".

[BrianFifaFan]

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I'm on PC and finally figured out how to play the demo with 10 minute halves instead of 4. Boy oh boy did that increase my enjoyment of the game. Ok it doesn't transform it into an awesome game. Most gameplay complaints are still valid. The AI can be wonky and with little creativity, pass speed can be too fast, defence in the box would make mourinho have a heart attack.

But I now feel that 17 can be a decent upgrade to 16 or something even better if EA patches are in the right direction. I think it's fair to list some things that I really liked:

- Player switching is instant and the player you switch to is immediately responsive. Massive improvement, it was laggy in 16 for me.

- The loose ball ADD seems to be gone. In my last game I noticed a player not under my control sprint towards a deflected ball in midfield! It may sound funny to be amazed by what should be basic logic but still...

- In 16 teammates made many stupid runs when I launched a cross (crosses seem improved in general) into the box or a through ball, paying no attention to the ball and often been called offside. This doesn't happen in 17 and it's great because the game does not reset itself so often and keeps it's flow.

There's probably more, but overall it's a mixed bag. The million $ question for me will be "what about CM mode? will all games against all teams feel like you're playing the same game over and over?".

I can get the Demo Tweaker to work right. Is that the one you used?

[Resurrection403]

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You should try playing it yourself before saying that. It's a lot different IMO and this is a demo, the actual game will probably be a bit different from the demo too.

I refuse to even play the demo. Do we not remember, year in and year out, how the demo winds up being nothing like the end product after a few patches? The fifa 16 demo is literally a different game from patch 1.03 onwards (there abouts)

[KingTocco]

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I refuse to even play the demo. Do we not remember, year in and year out, how the demo winds up being nothing like the end product after a few patches? The fifa 16 demo is literally a different game from patch 1.03 onwards (there abouts)

Cool, well thanks for offering your opinion on the game without even playing it.

[Chrisx]

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I can get the Demo Tweaker to work right. Is that the one you used?

No program needed just find your fifa 17 demo folder, open up Data/locale.ini in notepad, copy/paste these two lines at the top of the file and save it:

HALF_LENGTH=10
AI_SETTING_HALFLENGTH=10

(players stamina will be completely drained in the second half because it's calibrated for 4 minutes, and you may get an injured player at the end, but apart from that game plays the same. You can change the number to 8 minutes if you think 10 minutes is too much).