Has anyone been able to negotiate with any of their players? In my experience, there does not seem to be any negotiation at all, At least with the Browns, Either you give the player exactly what he is asking for or more, or he will tell you immediately he is going to test the free agency. You only get one shot. So where is the so called negotiation? I offered Crowel 100.000 less than he was asking. He turned me down and went to FA. Every single player I tried to give just a little less money went straight to FA even if it was minimal. I tried every combination changing years, bonus, salary, not one player negotiated. Quite a few wouldn’t even sign for their own asking price. I always assumed that negotiation was going back and forth until you reached a compromise. I guess not with this game. In all my other leagues I always let the CPU handle that task, this time I thought I would try it on my own. Does anyone else have this same experience or am I just a bad negotiator.?
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Re: Negotiations? Are there any. ? Or is it me.
More drawn-out negotiations do happen.
In my online league I run with my local friends, my brother as the Packers had weeks-long contract back-and-forths with Josh Sitton and T.J. Lang. He eventually got Sitton to sign, while Lang decided to test free agency.
I don't know that you will see season-long negotiations - my impression is that players start to tire of negotiations after three tries or so - but you should definitely see some weeks-long negotiation periods.
As to how the negotiations play out, my impression of the fair value number is that that's the minimum per-year the player is willing to take. That in mind, I try to negotiate around that per-year number, adding years if I want to keep the player long-term and subtracting years if the player is too close to or past 30. The "Predictable" trait on a player can also influence negotiations; if it is set to "No", a player may randomly decide to end negotiations, regardless of the contract offer.Comment
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I can't say this with certainty, but I believe that several outside factors beyond just contract terms influence the willingness of a player to resign versus jumping ship to test free agency. For example, team success, fan happiness, and player happiness would all play an influence. Player rating also has an impact. In my Ravens franchise, Kamar Aiken immediately declined when I offered him about 500k less than he was asking for (he's rated as a low 80's, so middle tier). I did get into a contract negotiation with a lower rated CB though (can't remember who, or how much I offered). The Ravens, however, are much more successful franchise than the Browns. If you play a career as an owner, you can check the standings as far as team success, stadium ratings, fan happiness, etc. I believe that lower rated teams in those areas would have less of a pull for players to resign with, though again I can't confirm it. I hope that all made sense.Comment
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Thanks so much for the suggestions and comments. I usually let the CPU take care of those things, but this year it looked kind of interesting. Thought I'd give it a try. I think I'll set up a test franchise and just try to do some negotiation and see how it plays out. I have dabbled in sales so I thought I'd be pretty good at it. LOL, but I guess it don't work that way in the game. So I am assuming that the asking price is the starting point and you must go up from there or try changing bonus or years. Anyway, thanks again for your reply'sLast edited by CleveCluby; 09-15-2016, 09:34 PM.When I do something right, No one ever remembers.
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Ive not had issues signing guys I want to keep just by giving them a little more base and a little more bonus money. Players undervalue themselves in many cases imo, so its not a big deal to sweeten the pot.Comment
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Yeah I noticed this as well. They said it's more in depth this year when it comes to resigning players, but I have yet to see that. It's more of, I want this much money and if I'm not offered it I'll test free agency. It's dumb
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I agree with what others have said. There could be some improvements to negotiating with players in a contract year. It feels sort of stale.
But I don't think the current system is all bad. You actually can sign players for less than their requested amount if you have the staff bonuses that help on contracts for that position. Or if they fit your scheme. Or both.
As Weewam said, there are other influences too. I've had times when my team record was bad, and guys wouldn't take deals even above their "desired" contract. And then they either retired, went to another team, I had to pay big in FA, or I franchise 'em for a year.
Does the player you can't sign fit your scheme? Is he not the starter there? Have you won any titles? Does your coach stink?
Sometimes it can feel scripted, but it's because he just doesn't want to play on your team anymore. I'm sure Owners feel miffed in real life too when they offer up millions, and then get denied.
The good thing is, there are influences that are not just financial; which is cool. It's a good thing Madden has that stuff going on under the hood. The problem is, Madden has that stuff going on under the hood. So it seems weird and confusing since it's not evident exactly why you're denied sometimes.Comment
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2K's is great. A player might sign for less money if it's a good team but will take significantly more to play for a bad team. If his contract his up and he doesn't feel like it's a perfect situation, he might explore free agency unless you make him an extremely enticing offer. There are some players that simply won't sign at all if you have done something in the past they didn't like (traded, didn't renew contract, etc.).Comment
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The only problem I have is it is so final. When it comes to contract time in the NFL no player says absolutely no to the first offer and ends it on the spot. Even players that don't want to play for you will still consider your offer and make or demand a counter offer. That is my only issue; I understand that some players don't want to stay and the reasons why. Basically the game gives you one shot at it. I offered Crowell 100k less than he was asking because he was having a bad year. The first offer he locked me out.
What I am saying is the game should have at least had him say, Increase the offer or the year, or the bonus. It should at least give you a couple of opportunities kind of like the MLB the show. I make an offer and the CPU says I want more money, let’s talk, anything, then after a couple of tries if we can't make an agreement, Then lock it out, But one try just isn't cool. Again that is just my personal opinion. Kind of takes the excitement of reaching an agreement out of the game. Either give them what they want, over pay them the first time or lose them instantly if it isn't enough.
Maybe I'll just let the CPU handle it. It would probably do a much better job anyway. But thanks again for all the suggestions.When I do something right, No one ever remembers.
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I have had no problem negotiating with players. I have only played one season so far, but I was able to negotiate if players didn't signed straight away. I didn't have anyone tell me they wanted to test FAUK Packers Fan
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I've seen a good variety of negotiations. I'm in year two of my Rams franchise and I've had players ask for a higher salary, or a higher bonus. I've even low-balled a backup right guard and got him to re sign anyway.
I do agree that there are a lot of other determining factors in whether or not players want to resign.
The only player I've had completely turn me down has been Aaron Donald. At a solid 99 OVR in year two he asked for a six year, $100 million dollar contract. I offered, he declined. The next week I bumped it up to $110 million dollars total. No dice, he wants to test free agency.
He's gonna test a franchise tag instead. SuckaComment
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I'm in year three now. I have had guys who would negotiate for many weeks and I have had guys stop after one round. I have had a few take less that the fair value listed but most want more. Especially if they are good. It seems like the better you make your offers, the longer they are willing to negotiate. If you try and undercut them they cut it off pretty quick. But the lower end players will usually take less.
I also have had some that I offered the same amount two times and the second time they accepted. Like maybe closer to the end if they year they want to get a deal done.
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The number listed is not what the player wants, but is fair market value, which is what real GMs base their offers on.
Also, if you are struggling with signing a player, they seem to be more willing to resign for less in the offseason.
Also, has anyone had an issue with the CPU franchise tagging a good player you were going to let walk? Last night I had a younger player with upside behind Kevin Dodd and needed cap space so I didn't even negotiate. Advance to the next week and there's a storyline about me franchising him. I had to trade him to make sure I got any dead money off the books. All CPU assistance is off
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I just wish it would tell you what motivates each player and where you stand.Comment
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