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  • Introspectah
    Pro
    • Sep 2014
    • 328

    #256
    Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

    Originally posted by fearwhatnow
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    What you're telling is that you have to force the cpu to foul.
    Yeah man, just like you need to remove every ''legal'' option for a human opponent to steal your ball so that he's forced to foul you.
    Otherwise, if you make it easy for him to steal the ball without having to foul you, why should he?
    The AI's programmed too faultlessly for that, but it does frequently make a foul against me, cause on occasion i leave it no other option than to foul me, lest i'm breaking through.

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    • Introspectah
      Pro
      • Sep 2014
      • 328

      #257
      Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

      Originally posted by ricardodc
      Sorry to tell you but "fouls" are not an extreme measure football players are forced to use. Fouls are a very important part of the game. Fouls are a frequent event. Nowadays are so important that too many times games are decided by set pieces only. I am sure you are aware of other sports like Tennis. They call errors to be "forced" or "unforced". What you are telling is that CPU should only make "forced" fouls. That's not the reality. For example, you see world class players commit fouls on amateur players in cup or international games. That's human. That's natural. That's how it should be. I (we) don't need to be a top FIFA player, a master, to see CPU make the unforced mistake to commit a foul on me. That's so wrong.

      Cheers!

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      What you are telling is that CPU should only make "forced" fouls.
      Ideally it shouldn't, but it is programmed to function that way, and unfortunately is still very far from playing flawfully like a human does.

      Yet it makes fouls aplenty against me.
      I remember Marchisio---seemingly out of frustration---assaulting from behind a player of mine who had his back towards the opponent's goal, and who was slowly crossing the line halfway the pitch to pass the ball backwards to a teammate.

      Now that is a neat example of an ''unforced'' error.

      Should have saved the footage. Maybe i did, not too sure.

      That's human. That's natural. That's how it should be.
      Sweet dreams are made of...
      unrealistic expectations?

      You should know by now EA's light years behind when it comes to making the AI behave organically, but has been showing itself to come quite close in some regards this year.

      I (we) don't need to be a top FIFA player, a master, to see CPU make the unforced mistake to commit a foul on me.
      No, but you do need to master certain basic skills required of a professional football player.
      How else could you expect the AI to play realistically if you don't even master a required few basic skills in order to make the AI ''life's difficult''?

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      • ricardodc
        MVP
        • Oct 2014
        • 1237

        #258
        Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

        Originally posted by Introspectah
        Ideally it shouldn't, but it is programmed to function that way, and unfortunately is still very far from playing flawfully like a human does.
        If "it is programmed to function that way" I say it's badly programmed.

        Yet it makes fouls aplenty against me.
        Can you tell how many you consider to be "aplenty"? Can you show us a video showing your claims?

        No, but you do need to master certain basic skills required of a professional football player. How else could you expect the AI to play realistically if you don't even master a required few basic skills in order to make the AI ''life's difficult''?
        I don't agree. If AI was playing "realistically" it would make many fouls. Just a portion of the total CPU fouls should be related to USER ability.

        I give you one simple example: How many fouls you see in real life made in aerial battles? How many do you see in FIFA or PES in the same context?

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        • Und Lahm
          Rookie
          • Nov 2012
          • 160

          #259
          Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

          I agree on the issue of fouls. Yes, I can goad the CPU into fouling me, so I do see a decent number of fouls.

          But, where the realism fails in FIFA, is that fouls should be a natural result of physical play and errors. Even average CPU defenders, or any position for that matter, are too clinical with their tackles.

          Sent from my Z30 using Tapatalk

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          • BSDShoes
            Rookie
            • Sep 2015
            • 401

            #260
            Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

            EA patched the demo, now the gameplay is sped up... predictable.

            *LE SIGH*

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            • hunterdawgs10
              Rookie
              • Sep 2011
              • 214

              #261
              Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

              You're joking right? #SimProbs

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              • Lashley93
                Rookie
                • Oct 2015
                • 57

                #262
                Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                Originally posted by BSDShoes
                EA patched the demo, now the gameplay is sped up... predictable.

                *LE SIGH*
                ffs EA at it again

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                • Peji911
                  Sexiest Woman Alive!
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 2098

                  #263
                  Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                  I'm not good or maybe intelligent enough to figure the following out from 4 mins.

                  Is there actually build up this year and do you notice teams playing differently and do star players play differently?

                  Also, anyone see shooting from distance yet? The few games I have played I haven't seen a single shot from outside the box
                  PSN: Peji911

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                  • Lashley93
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 57

                    #264
                    Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by Peji911
                    I'm not good or maybe intelligent enough to figure the following out from 4 mins.

                    Is there actually build up this year and do you notice teams playing differently and do star players play differently?

                    Also, anyone see shooting from distance yet? The few games I have played I haven't seen a single shot from outside the box
                    AI all play the same, and never attempt long shots

                    Never have, sadly

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                    • Und Lahm
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 160

                      #265
                      Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                      I've seen shots from outside the box. The CPU will do it if you give them nothing else. The problem is that it is the new low driven shot which the CPU likes to use non stop.

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                      • Peji911
                        Sexiest Woman Alive!
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 2098

                        #266
                        Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by Lashley93
                        AI all play the same, and never attempt long shots

                        Never have, sadly
                        FFS

                        I love FIFA's licenses, commentary and yearly innovation (i.e.: corner and FKs), but PES has the more realistic gameplay yet lacks the above.

                        Sucks from us.

                        If it was easier to pull off moves in PES, i'd enjoy it more as well. Whereas FIFA makes it waaaay too easy to pull of extremely difficult moves... easier than simple moves in PES haha


                        They need to combine!
                        PSN: Peji911

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                        • Benja190782
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 149

                          #267
                          Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                          I've played +30 demo matches now and only had 2 fouls against me. Chelsea seem to be the only team who likes long balls - CPU is ping pong passing too much some times.
                          Not enough long shots from the CPU - they try to drible too much.

                          There's a lot of good stuff also as reflections, balls into open space etc.

                          But let us be fair - it's impossible to make a fair judgement of the demo with only 4 min. halves.

                          I'm still loving the demo - but I start to see a pattern from the typical FIFA CPU.

                          My hopes are up for the full game with my EA Access on the 22th.
                          Xbox One - FIFA 17 - Full Manual - 15 min. - Slow - Legendary!

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                          • ricardodc
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 1237

                            #268
                            Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                            Is Pass accuracy bugged? Most of the time CPU ends with >90% and than I had this game... Bayern with 68% at half time and 76% in the end! (World Class level)

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                            About penalties: I like this new system. Previous one was too basic and boring. Now is much more diverse and realistic. I wish Goal Kicks could have a more complex and diverse system also.

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                            Last edited by ricardodc; 09-17-2016, 01:58 PM.

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                            • BSDShoes
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 401

                              #269
                              Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                              I'm noticing something with the CPU, with a 0-0 match the CPU is basically laid back, but if the CPU scores a goal they become extremely aggressive after that and charge at my net like they're behind instead of leading resulting in scoring another goal almost right after the first goal and saw a bit of that early on in FIFA 15. Anyone else encounter that? Occurs on professional, world class and legendary.

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                              • Matt10
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 16676

                                #270
                                Re: FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                                Here's my Demo playthrough, it's not far off, if tactics work...man that will be great.

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