How is your BaP Goalie going

[Dimco]

Hi mates. Are you able to achieve 90% save percentage or above ?
I try to play with latest tuners, all stars with 10 minutes periods 3/4 of arcade/full sim.
In many games, and many new starts i wont be able to enjoy game, because lot of scoring. Most of games have over 8 goals (both sides together). So, i read some articles about last tuners. I decide to delete game with all data, reinstall it and do not download latest tuners.
On same difficulty, i play only 2 games, but game feels different, for goalie much better. In first match i lost 3:2 after over time and had 43 shots against me. Next match i lost 3:4, 29 shots against me (i make 2 big mistakes in movement which results in goal).
So i think that game without last sliders is for BaP goalie much better and my feeling is that BaP is finally playable.
Do you have a same experiences ?

[SuperGoalies]

Re: How is your BaP Goalie going

am doing good, I didn't uninstall the patch or tuner, with my alternate goalie slider, am like wins: 4 and Losses: 2, and am in CHL, its been great!.

[Biggage]

Re: How is your BaP Goalie going

Wish I had the patience you guys have to play longer periods. I prefer 3-5 minute periods so I can move through a season faster, but I want realistic shot totals. Hardest part about that obviously is making the game fast enough to do so without getting lit up.

[SuperGoalies]

Re: How is your BaP Goalie going

my alternate sliders are 5 minute settings.

[acles003]

Re: How is your BaP Goalie going

BaP Goalie is really the only reason I would want to play this game. Have sold/traded in NHL 14, (skipped 15), and 16 because it was just way too hard.

Is it easier then previous games? I watched YouTube videos, would do practice mode, etc. Nothing really helped.

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[Dimco]

Re: How is your BaP Goalie going

I have it same. Only reason, why i buy PS4 is NHL and be a pro goalie. As colleague stated, it's goood/playable with sliders update, or in my case with tuner uninstall. Now i have a good feel from game because some shots are easy, like in real, som is challange and some it's goal, if i am not able to make goal stealing save, som for my now it's tons of fun. SupeGoalies, which sliders you mean ? Because i try some sliders but it's already same. All what CPU AI do with new tunner it,s carry puck along the board or behind the net, and make cross-crease pass, my deffenders not be able to stop puck and CPU one-timers it's more than often results in to not catchable shot and goals.
What i like on the game without new sliders is that my goalie can allow some goals as we see in real life.
I hope that EA make a new tunner, which don't ruin the game

[Northernwolf]

Re: How is your BaP Goalie going

I need to get in a few more games with my goalie. So far I did 2 games and I lost 5-2 and 6-1.
Used SuperGoalies sliders.
Im going to try out a few more matches with these sliders or use the alternate sliders for 5 minute matches (I normally play at 6 or 7 minutes a period).
I have no tuners installed, as they only create more / new problems.
Im offline only and want to keep that experience as good as possible.
I will also try out with vanilla (no sliders) to see how the game feels as a goalie then.
More testing tonight!

[Dimco]

Re: How is your BaP Goalie going

I suggest try vanilla version. I am not sure but i think that SuperGoalie sliders is now optimalised for latest tuner, so if you dont have instaled it, your gameplay will be different. Without sliders i am very satisfied with goalie gameplay (offline), per match its about 25 to 35 shots on goals (sometime more) and the save percentage is about 90-91 % average for my. If my goalie improve (at now he has of course only 63 rating) i am sure that a will be able to achieve save percentage about 92-93 %.

[Northernwolf]

Re: How is your BaP Goalie going

I will try to test that Dimco. Thanks for the heads up!

[Dimco]

Re: How is your BaP Goalie going

I forget to say that i play 10 minutes periods with 3/4 of autheticity On all stars. If you play less minutes, try to play 2/4 of autheticity. Closer to full sim game is slower and shot its less accuracy, but that not mean that there will be same amount of shots. I have feeling that CPU know that shot accuracy si worst, so the try to shot less and more passing. You must experimentC but on the vanilla sliders gameplay is more friendly for goalie withou need to sliders change. And if you have a good reflex, you can be really superb goalie

[SuperGoalies]

Re: How is your BaP Goalie going

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-nhl-17-a.html


here they are, in case your wondering, I mostly use the alternate settings, cause its 5 minutes and stuff =p, have fun all


other ones are like 7 minutes also, they are also awesome

[Northernwolf]

Re: How is your BaP Goalie going

Disclaimer: This is a bit of a long post on some impressions, after a few more games and some training.

Wow! So much to learn about playing goalies!

I'm changing some things around tonight. I did 2 games this afternoon and found my 4/4 sim style is not working so well for 6 minutes (as you mention, Dimco).

I will scale it down a few notches on the play style and see how the game responds. 2/4 perhaps.

I will say that the game feels pretty good despite my misgivings.

I reset all of the changes and took away some visual on ice trainer stuff that bugged me.

Short recap on the experience so far:

Both games I got around 20 shots on goal, and around 5-4 penalties per team.

First game I let in 2 goals that was completely on me.
I just forgot to stick to the post and they easily scored.
The 2 next goals were... weird?
I got one that went in the space between the glove and the pads. This felt strange as I was in position and all.
I should try to record this for next time I guess..
The final goal was crap.
I was standing upright and the AI just stared me down and shot the goal (within my range to block) on the stick side. It was like I had no stick to block with. It felt a bit cheap.
I moved the left stick to the right side to counter and all. This bugged the hell out of me.

Sidenote about the right stick: I only used it 3 times during my match. Each time it saved me from a goal against. Each time I felt a bit exposed, but happy I timed it.

Final score: 4-3 for the Tri City American over Spokane (my team) My ratings were: B+, A-, B-

Second game I had a terrible start!
Kamloops Blazers got 2 goals on me in the first period on its first 3 shots.
I was about to rage quit, but decided to face up and play the game.
And boy it was a good game.
After a terrible first period, my team-mates woke up and scored 1 in the second and one in the third. The final part of the third was just the AI crashing my net shooting madly, almost desperately.
It was great. Heart pounding, in my chest. Would we win? Could I win a game as a goalie?
Overtime!
AI came downward, passed, one timed me, and I somehow managed to spread myself out to block the bloody thing!
I slowly tumbled around from my sprawl, and was lucky to see the rebound being shot go wide! What a completely strange moment. I was just kneeling on my butt while the shot goes off! I could not have done anything to save it. Pure luck.

With 34 seconds left, my left winger got the puck into the net with some sneaky stick movement. The AI goalie played his heart out, so I almost felt for him.

Relieved I shouted something in Norwegian I will not utter here.
Somehow my ratings took a shot: B-, B+, C+ wtf?

Next up: vanilla all except the on ice trainer stuff. cut the sim down to 2/4 and see if I can actually string some skill into this Be a pro goalie mode. Right now I feel its too randomized.
I hope I manage a shutout lol!

Sidenote: Back in 2010 or 11 I made this one goalie that managed 5 shutouts in a season. I was quite pleased.
Doubt I will get this many in the 2016 version of the game, but here is to tryin'!

Thanks Dimco for your tips!
Thanks to SuperGoalies for trying to give us human goalies a fighting chance!

Post script: Since you bothered to read all my ramblings, I suggest checking out the awesome Jukurit Hockey mask in the SM liga. I found it while going through all the goalie masks. It was pretty sweet, so its now the mask of my choice for my BaP goalie this year.

[SuperGoalies]

Re: How is your BaP Goalie going

I've improved the 7 Minute Settings folks, have fun all!,

[Dimco]

Re: How is your BaP Goalie going

Great to read this
So i think that this year nhl can be good for offline human goalies. Last i think, it was nhl 13 when i not get angry at that game so much. Now i can see, that i really have chance to do something with match as goalie.
In the case of right stick, i forgot save replay, but i do a unbelievable glove catch with right stick, when o lean a post, cross-crease pass was be delivered to player totally free in front of net and that glove save, i really watch replay about 7 times
I watch some tutorial videos on the youtube for "how to play goalie". I use that advices so i use right stick mainly for pass from behind the net to the opossite side, many time i save a goal with this advices. Second case, when i use right stick is rebounds, when the puck deflect to the side.

Some other tips are usefull to. For example if the shot coming from blue line, and you have no traffic in front of net, try to move up agains shot.
Buterfly i used only in the case, that attacker is close to net or for shots from blue line when is traffic in front of net and shot can be deflected. As you say, is many thinghs to learn what is best for goalie play

[SuperGoalies]

Adjustments for 10 Minutes and stats.

I kind've would like to create a 10 minute slider also, am currently play right now on 10 minutes, I will try to solve this mystery. anyways am up 3-1 going in to the third, here are the adjustments I made to my 7 Minute Sliders for 10 Minutes:


Broken Stick Frequency: 33 (from: 35)
AI Learning: 6 (From: 4)
CPU Faceoff Difficulty: 50 (from: 40)


I better get started now, anyways am in process of testing and playing with it.




stats for 10 minutes


game stats: NIAG : 2 - 4 : PBO (Me)
Total Shots: NIAG: 28 - 33 : PBO (Me)
Hits: NIAG: 31 - 18 (PBO) (Me)
Time on Attack: NIAG: 05:58 - 08:16 : PBO (Me)
Passing % : NIAG: 80.5% - 84.5% : PBO (Me)
Penalty Minutes: NIAG: 12:00 - 10:00 : PBO (Me)
Power Plays: NIAG: 1/5 - 2/6 : PBO (Me)
Power Play Minutes: NIAG: 08:15 - 9:16: PBO (Me)
Faceoffs Won: NIAG: 19 - 27: PBO (Me)
Breakaways: NIAG: 0/0 - 0/0 PBO (Me)
Shorthanded goals: NIAG: 0 - 0: PBO (Me)


Goal Summary: Niagara Ice Dogs: First Period: 1, Second Period: 0 , Third Period: 1
Peterborough Petes: First Period: 1, Second Period: 2 , Third Period: 1


NIAG: 2 - 4 PBO (Me)


Shot Summary: Niagara Ice Dogs: First Period: 11 , Second Period: 8 , Third Period: 9
Peterborough Petes: First Period: 13, Second Period: 12, Third Period: 8


NIAG: 28 - 33 PBO (me)


Faceoff Summary: Niagara Ice Dogs: First Period: 4, Second Period: 6 , Third Period: 9


Peterborough Petes: First Period: 12 , Second Period: 9 , Third Period: 6


Goalie Stats: (Me) , Min: 59:56 , SA: 28 , S: 26, SV% .929, GA: 2, GAA: 2.00


CPU : Min: 59:23 , SA: 33, SA: 29, SV%: .879, GA: 4, GAA: 4.04


starting up second game now, I will post the stats for it here after am finished.