Blacktop Discussion Thread

[knick9]

Figured this mode needs a dedicated thread because (1) it's new, (2) confusing, and (3) has many problems.

The main issue for me is that a lot of players are unusable because they have a quick or fairly quick release. You can't get Melo's shot down in Blacktop...I have Diamond David Thompson and I can't use him in this mode because it is literally impossible to shoot with him because of the input lag. I won close to 3,000 Gauntlet games last year (sad!) so I can safely say there's a big problem shooting the ball this year.

On top of that the game doesn't let you close out on shooters properly--it feels like your defender is walking in quicksand against a force field trying to run towards his man. I can live with fewer but bigger rewards this year but the game has to be playable and right now it doesn't work properly.

[harryl]

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I actually think the quicker shots are better with lag, because you do it by feel for the timing and aren't operating by any (lagged) visual cues.

That said, I have input lag in Blacktop. Same every single game. Doesn't appear to be a connection issue, as I get no dropped frames or teleporting or anything like that. Just, clearly, a lag in input. It's clearest when I try to "turn" before going out of bounds, but my guy runs out of bounds. Or, driving to the hole, try to make a kick-out pass at the last second but, instead, my guy just runs out of bounds.

And defense is rough if the opponent is at all crafty in his moves.

Even when I'm playing some newb without skills and beating him easily, it's almost too frustrating to play.

Really hope there's some sort of issue that causes this that can be patched. If Gauntlet is this bad, I can only imagine how Online 5v5 is.

[Yukk]

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I actually think the quicker shots are better with lag, because you do it by feel for the timing and aren't operating by any (lagged) visual cues.

That said, I have input lag in Blacktop. Same every single game. Doesn't appear to be a connection issue, as I get no dropped frames or teleporting or anything like that. Just, clearly, a lag in input. It's clearest when I try to "turn" before going out of bounds, but my guy runs out of bounds. Or, driving to the hole, try to make a kick-out pass at the last second but, instead, my guy just runs out of bounds.

And defense is rough if the opponent is at all crafty in his moves.

Even when I'm playing some newb without skills and beating him easily, it's almost too frustrating to play.

Really hope there's some sort of issue that causes this that can be patched. If Gauntlet is this bad, I can only imagine how Online 5v5 is.

Believe it or not 5x5 works great...with that said...blacktop is the biggest disappointment to me as far as 2k17. This mode of s absolutely unplayable trash that only gets you mad. Gauntlet was my go to mode in 2k16. I had close to s 1000wins. It was very responsive and I could lock down anyone playing on ball D. Blacktop is so unresponsive it's ridiculous..atrocious input lag on offense and impossible to play defense. I tried to like it ...I really did. I considered myself elite in the gauntlet but this **** is unplayable. I'm done with it. If they ever get rid of input lag I'll be back. Hopefully they are aware and working on it.

[mjm76]

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Believe it or not 5x5 works great...with that said...blacktop is the biggest disappointment to me as far as 2k17. This mode of s absolutely unplayable trash that only gets you mad. Gauntlet was my go to mode in 2k16. I had close to s 1000wins. It was very responsive and I could lock down anyone playing on ball D. Blacktop is so unresponsive it's ridiculous..atrocious input lag on offense and impossible to play defense. I tried to like it ...I really did. I considered myself elite in the gauntlet but this **** is unplayable. I'm done with it. If they ever get rid of input lag I'll be back. Hopefully they are aware and working on it.

I started playing gauntlet very late in BA 2K16 but I was surprised that I truly enjoyed it but in 2K17 the players are non responsive and it seems impossible to shoot.

Fix this 2K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whatever was changed up in 17 2K you need to go back to 2K16 coding, IMO.

Thanks......................

[ajg52801]

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Agree with everyone about input lag. It is very ridiculous, all the shot timings are completely off. I haven't played MTO extensively but it's much better compared to blacktop in terms of input lag (except the annoying pro level cheese fest in the early seeds where it's easier to make 3s than layups no joke).

Another thing to add: what's up with the no blocking fouls called? If you're close to the sideline, the defender can literally bump you out of bounds n it's a turnover. This has got to change. Anyone else notice this?

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[Enso]

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**** sucks to hear this been so busy with domination haven't had a chance to check this out. Hopefully it's not as bad as you guys describe it.

[knick9]

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A few more observations after 75 games:

- now they give you 1 pick whether you win or lose
- the typical rewards are not worth the effort
- can't go back and forth between modes because the shot timing is so different it's hard to make the mental adjustment
- desperately need an option that tells your teammate to stay with their man and not help (same problem last year)
- corner three still abused (Ben Wallace made one against me)
- no option to quit and reset your team (I know people will keep resetting until they get good first teammates but that's why they should give you more picks the deeper you go)
- two technical foul cards moved me back from level 4 to 3 which seems harsh

Have to set this mode aside unless they adjust some things.

[Yukk]

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A few more observations after 75 games:

- now they give you 1 pick whether you win or lose
- the typical rewards are not worth the effort
- can't go back and forth between modes because the shot timing is so different it's hard to make the mental adjustment
- desperately need an option that tells your teammate to stay with their man and not help (same problem last year)
- corner three still abused (Ben Wallace made one against me)
- no option to quit and reset your team (I know people will keep resetting until they get good first teammates but that's why they should give you more picks the deeper you go)
- two technical foul cards moved me back from level 4 to 3 which seems harsh

Have to set this mode aside unless they adjust some things.

Well said....can't change boards..I love when I picked up Steve Francis and had to wait 8 games before I could put him I've my gauntlet line up.....this absolutely ridiculous 3and centers made.

[rawdog805]

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I don't like this mode. I did think that the gauntlet was a cool concept last year, but I seriously think that this mode should be eliminated and there should be a draft champions type of mode in NBA 2k games.

[Cityspecial]

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There was nothing wrong with Gauntlet imo. At least Gauntlet rewarded you for winning. Why are there technical foul cards on here?

[knick9]

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Now you do get two picks for winning and the rewards are better. Also technical fouls don't shoot you down a level anymore. Shooting input still bugged but worth playing at least.

[fufo]

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I hit a 3 with two different players who have 25 3pt rating. One was Rakeem Christmas, don't remember the other.

Is there any way to defend pick and roll in this mode? (Defender helps and opponent makes an open 3.)


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[harryl]

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Is there any way to defend pick and roll in this mode? (Defender helps and opponent makes an open 3.)

It's tough. To be really thorough, you have to manually go over and then switch to the "big" and cover the roll man. And you need to do it quickly enough that your wing doesn't come over to help, or be ready to switch to the wing to get him back to his assignment before a pass can be made to him.

I've adjusted a bit to the lag, in terms of on-ball D and shooting. For D, it's still rough, but it helps a lot to lay off Turbo for Quick Shuffle as you'll overshoot too much and won't be able to recover back to other direction.

For shooting, I try to only shoot wide-open threes and I am purposefully releasing "early" so that it's not late.

But the input lag is still driving me nuts when I drive and intend to dish, but pass command doesn't register and I just run out of bounds.

[knick9]

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Won Team USA Deandre, can't sell but cool.

[ghettog]

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Took me beating 6 boards but finally got a decent card. I got Sapphire Curry that I already had. Sold him for 15k. I also pulled emerald Demar Derozen, John Wall and CP3. Other than that just 1 gold and some bronze and silver players after a lot of games. Level 6 had a ruby Eddie Jones, but wasn't able to pull him. Sadly I haven't pulled any Team USA players. Level 7 has ruby reward Sleepy Floyd(88 overall) and Steve Smith(87).

I think the new patch may have fixed something with blacktop. Last night I was only getting 1 card per win on level 6. And I would get 1 card per loss. At level 5 I got 2 cards per win. Seemed odd that it would go down. Anyways after the patch i was getting 2 cards per win at level 6. Same 2 cards per win and 1 per loss at level 7.

I've spent a lot of time in blacktop. It is not the most fun mode but since I didn't want to spend money right now or waste my MT too much it seemed like a good place to grind for MT and gain some cards. If you are good enough you can have a poor lineup of 10 players and still win since you are at least getting 2 golds as teammates. And on some boards you don't even need to win to get a card. I haven't noticed the technical foul cards knocking me back a level personally. Unless I didn't notice I've only seen it reset my board.

Maybe my time would be better spent in other modes, but now I just want to get to the top levels to see what it offers in terms of MT reward cards and player cards.