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  • Yesh2kdone
    Banned
    • Feb 2015
    • 1412

    #1

    This shooting tweak.

    Ok, I've avoided the OP sharpshooters thread because I don't use him in park or pro am.

    The way open shots are now calculated has completely killed my SF SS career. 4/5 feet of open space now qualifies for a c- grade at best, and I'm getting D grades on most of my shots. I'm being forced into completely unnatural fadeaways just like 2k16 did upon release.

    I have a 6'9 dude who has the speed and turning circle of a juggernaut, so how many completely wide open shots with no one around do you think I will get in a HoF level game, when your cpu works solely off my controller inputs and beats me to any spot I wish to get to? I run past anyone, and I'm dragged in to animations that kill the very little movement I do have,

    I want to play and like this game, i really do, but once again my career is being killed by online play. Guys, give me a break here. I have all hof badges and I'm a 91 ovr.
  • PhillyIMBlog.com
    Rookie
    • May 2016
    • 382

    #2
    Re: This shooting tweak.

    Its what those privileged kids wanted bro.


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    • Bballlogic
      Banned
      • Sep 2016
      • 28

      #3
      Re: This shooting tweak.

      Originally posted by Yesh2k
      Ok, I've avoided the OP sharpshooters thread because I don't use him in park or pro am.

      The way open shots are now calculated has completely killed my SF SS career. 4/5 feet of open space now qualifies for a c- grade at best, and I'm getting D grades on most of my shots. I'm being forced into completely unnatural fadeaways just like 2k16 did upon release.

      I have a 6'9 dude who has the speed and turning circle of a juggernaut, so how many completely wide open shots with no one around do you think I will get in a HoF level game, when your cpu works solely off my controller inputs and beats me to any spot I wish to get to? I run past anyone, and I'm dragged in to animations that kill the very little movement I do have,

      I want to play and like this game, i really do, but once again my career is being killed by online play. Guys, give me a break here. I have all hof badges and I'm a 91 ovr.
      Like ive said in other threads, when the kids complain, Beluba gives them what they want. Yall gonna a learn to stop making threads about things that should be patched cuz you had a bad game. Learn to play better defense

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      • BlackMambaTheDream
        Rookie
        • Oct 2015
        • 125

        #4
        Re: This shooting tweak.

        Would you mind telling me how much your fg% dropped?
        What was it before the patch and what is it now?

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        • Yesh2kdone
          Banned
          • Feb 2015
          • 1412

          #5
          Re: This shooting tweak.

          Originally posted by BlackMambaTheDream
          Would you mind telling me how much your fg% dropped?
          What was it before the patch and what is it now?
          It's difficult to give a massive sample size as I've not long switched on to HoF from rookie badge chasing.

          But using the small sample size, of the 2 games leading up to the tweak, and the 2 games after it
          before the tweak:

          6-10
          4-8

          After the tweak;

          3-10
          7-23

          I took more shots than I normally would in that second game, because I was trying to figure out what the hell was going on with my form being forced into fadeaways, as opposed to playing as kyle Korver and just waiting for plays to be called for me.

          I can tell you though that I don't take contested shots, because even with badges it's generally a waste of time on HoF, so I did make sure I had the approx 4/5 ft of room before firing off a shot.

          My player has a 98 3pt rating and all SS badges on HoF and the grand badge.
          Last edited by Yesh2kdone; 10-01-2016, 02:00 PM.

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          • Wolf Ticket
            Rookie
            • Sep 2014
            • 297

            #6
            Re: This shooting tweak.

            You basically now have a playmaker without the athleticism, enjoy.

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            • hanzsomehanz
              MVP
              • Oct 2009
              • 3275

              #7
              Re: This shooting tweak.

              I feel for you man... It's a premonition I had.. 2k nerfing the Shooting..

              I haven't made a Sharpshooter and don't intend to but this bait and switch is nasty.. it's filthy.. it's slimy.. it's rotten.. I dunno man.. I don't like how they sell you on these super ratings and HOF badges plus GRAND BADGE.. then not even a month? into the game they humble those ratings through behind the scenes slider tweaks..

              You could go down a difficulty or two... also look into the shot quality on your open looks.. if you're getting poor grades: you might be experiencing a shot meter glitch..

              My next expectation is the hammer and knife to the Playmaker ability of Point Forwards and Playmakers.. I'm just waiting and expecting.. it's inevitable..

              Their strategy: sell us on the big ticket to success.. then kill your success after taking your hard work, your time, and your money invested into obtaining this big ticket..
              how could I lose? im playing by my own rules..

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              • Yesh2kdone
                Banned
                • Feb 2015
                • 1412

                #8
                Re: This shooting tweak.

                Originally posted by Wolf Ticket
                You basically now have a playmaker without the athleticism, enjoy.
                That's not fair; at least if I had a playmaker, I'd have the movement and speed to take completely open shots!

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                • Caelumfang
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1218

                  #9
                  Re: This shooting tweak.

                  So you noticed the grade dropped for open shots to B- and below if not green, too, eh?

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                  • Yesh2kdone
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 1412

                    #10
                    Re: This shooting tweak.

                    Originally posted by hanzsomehanz
                    I feel for you man... It's a premonition I had.. 2k nerfing the Shooting..

                    I haven't made a Sharpshooter and don't intend to but this bait and switch is nasty.. it's filthy.. it's slimy.. it's rotten.. I dunno man.. I don't like how they sell you on these super ratings and HOF badges plus GRAND BADGE.. then not even a month? into the game they humble those ratings through behind the scenes slider tweaks..

                    You could go down a difficulty or two... also look into the shot quality on your open looks.. if you're getting poor grades: you might be experiencing a shot meter glitch..

                    My next expectation is the hammer and knife to the Playmaker ability of Point Forwards and Playmakers.. I'm just waiting and expecting.. it's inevitable..

                    Their strategy: sell us on the big ticket to success.. then kill your success after taking your hard work, your time, and your money invested into obtaining this big ticket..
                    Cheers dude, but it's not a shot meter glitch. On a couple of occasions I've got completely open with no one around and the grades are back to normal.

                    I'm on the celtics and we're still winning, but I now get a good portion of my points from slashing! That's how ridiculous this is.

                    I like the challenge of HoF, and I'm pretty sure I'd just be blowing the cpu out on a lower difficulty.

                    This isn't the game that was promised and/or advertised. Not just the shooting, because the shooting was so ridiculously inconsistent on 16 that i didn't even expect to be able to go 4-8 unless using one of the 2 or 3 jumpshots that may have worked on that game on HoF.

                    But the cpu ratings boosts that we were told had been nerfed, the speed boosting to any open ball, offensive rebounds are still a massive issue. Last game against Atlanta, they got 15 off rebounds versus our 3 for example.

                    This game scored 89 on metacritic (down from 91), and I'm just at a loss. I have a few careers going, so I just lurch from one to the other hoping that I can at least find some enjoyment in one of them and something sticks. I understand that some people absolutely love this game too, so I don't think my views are a full representation of how this game is performing. I'm a business development manager in my real life, and I always tell my guys to under promise and over deliver. 2k have promised things that just aren't even close to being delivered.

                    A camel is a horse drawn by committee, and 2k17 is a game ruined for esports (I was saying that before smoove!).

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                    • PhillyIMBlog.com
                      Rookie
                      • May 2016
                      • 382

                      #11
                      Re: This shooting tweak.

                      Originally posted by Bballlogic
                      Like ive said in other threads, when the kids complain, Beluba gives them what they want. Yall gonna a learn to stop making threads about things that should be patched cuz you had a bad game. Learn to play better defense


                      Guess if u want change on this game, all u have to do is cry.


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                      • JustCallMeSleepy
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2015
                        • 158

                        #12
                        Re: This shooting tweak.

                        Yeah, I saw that coming. Dudes hop on OS and cry that shooters are shooting, and celebrate that everyone shoots like 34%.

                        Again, I'm not a sharpshooter. And I'm not mad. Just observing.
                        I like playing with unselfish, High IQ, and competitive people.

                        72% Team Pro Am| 77% Walk On|76% Park| A Teammate Grade| PS4 Name: JustCallMeSleepy. Pm me on here or add me on PS4 if you wanna run.

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                        • coolcras7
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 2337

                          #13
                          Re: This shooting tweak.

                          Originally posted by Lakers 24 7
                          Has nothing to do with playing better defense, it makes user offense bad as well.

                          Sorry the game got harder for you, turn the difficulty down or run a better offense.
                          Out of the box shooting with the shot stick made the game way too easy, so I am glad they adjusted the shooting percentages they also change the way the game identified open shots, vs crowed vs defended shots which I prefer there was too many defended shots going in.
                          Last edited by coolcras7; 10-01-2016, 04:58 PM.
                          PSN=Coolcas7

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                          • Cwb917
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 277

                            #14
                            Re: This shooting tweak.

                            Originally posted by BlackMambaTheDream
                            Would you mind telling me how much your fg% dropped?
                            What was it before the patch and what is it now?
                            I rarely shoot contested shots, Im a 90 OVR sf sharpshooter with 91 3 and midrange. Before the patch i was shooting around 40 pct from 3 in pro am games. We played 4 games last night and it was averaging 25% on wide open corner 3 looks . Many times i was getting a C- or D grade if a guy was within 5 feet of me.


                            Before and post patch i always shoot jumpers with button and use stick for layup and dunk situations. I dont even keep track of stats at the park because with the input lag it seems so wildly inconsistent. I could be 4/5 one game and 0/7 the next.
                            Last edited by Cwb917; 10-01-2016, 05:06 PM.
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                            • HPShizzle
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 21

                              #15
                              Re: This shooting tweak.

                              Originally posted by Cwb917
                              I rarely shoot contested shots, Im a 90 OVR sf sharpshooter with 91 3 and midrange. Before the patch i was shooting around 40 pct from 3 in pro am games. We played 4 games last night and it was averaging 25% on wide open corner 3 looks . Many times i was getting a C- or D grade if a guy was within 5 feet of me.


                              Before and post patch i always shoot jumpers with button and use stick for layup and dunk situations. I dont even keep track of stats at the park because with the input lag it seems so wildly inconsistent. I could be 4/5 one game and 0/7 the next.
                              This was my experience last night as well playing pro am. The highest shooting percentage in a game that I had last night was 40%, with the majority of games being around 30% shooting on nothing but open looks from the corner catch and shoot. All hall of fame badges too, 94 3pt rating and being assisted by hall of fame dimer.

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