MyCAREER Has a Realism Problem

[KingStian]

What some people need to realize is that earning VC is different for a lot of people. Some can earn it pretty fast because they play on Hall of Fame difficulty and get a X amount multiplier added to the game score, but not everyone is good enough at the game to play it at that difficulty. If you are that poor bastard who has to play the game on rookie you only get half of the VC you earned for a game. But the attribute points cost the same for the guys playing on HoF as the guys playing om rookie. The grind is therefore so much bigger for the guys who aren't that skilled at the game.

I have always thought it was really stupid that everyone around you reacts and threats you as if you and the second coming of Jesus and were the lovechild of Michael Jordan and LeBron James, while your skills are closer to Michael Bolton and Etta James. Of course you shouldn't be a 95 overall player right out of college, but you're supposed to be the potential future franchise player everyone around you is talking about. What player has ever been talked about as a future franchise player while being the least skilled player in his draft class? A player talked about the way "Pres" is presented should be in the 75 to 80 range coming into the NBA, not a borderline D-League player.

VC has for years been a dark cloud over the 2K series. It is designed to make us spend real money for virtual sleeves and shoes. I'm pretty sure the teams equipment managers provides each player with all the headbands and arm sleeves he may need, so why do we have to spend VC on it? Not to mention the fact that they never can get colors right for the team options. If you play as the Lakers you can bet your wife and children on that if the team color for you is yellow the team color for the rest of the team is purple. These are the small details that break the immersion. Shoes are the worst sinner in the VC hell 2K insist on putting us through every year. A custom colorway pair of Adidas shoes I made would cost me 7500 VC. So if I wanted to make a home and away option, you know since there in most cases are different base colors used home and away, this would cost me 15.000 VC. It's just ridiculous.

The one VC related thing they did back down at a couple of years ago was the franchise mode, which was totally unplayable because of the VC walls they put in place. Then you had to "upgrade" your GM to be able to do a simple thing such as make a lineup change.

[MoodMuzik]

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What some people need to realize is that earning VC is different for a lot of people. Some can earn it pretty fast because they play on Hall of Fame difficulty and get a X amount multiplier added to the game score, but not everyone is good enough at the game to play it at that difficulty. If you are that poor bastard who has to play the game on rookie you only get half of the VC you earned for a game. But the attribute points cost the same for the guys playing on HoF as the guys playing om rookie. The grind is therefore so much bigger for the guys who aren't that skilled at the game.

I have always thought it was really stupid that everyone around you reacts and threats you as if you and the second coming of Jesus and were the lovechild of Michael Jordan and LeBron James, while your skills are closer to Michael Bolton and Etta James. Of course you shouldn't be a 95 overall player right out of college, but you're supposed to be the potential future franchise player everyone around you is talking about. What player has ever been talked about as a future franchise player while being the least skilled player in his draft class? A player talked about the way "Pres" is presented should be in the 75 to 80 range coming into the NBA, not a borderline D-League player.

VC has for years been a dark cloud over the 2K series. It is designed to make us spend real money for virtual sleeves and shoes. I'm pretty sure the teams equipment managers provides each player with all the headbands and arm sleeves he may need, so why do we have to spend VC on it? Not to mention the fact that they never can get colors right for the team options. If you play as the Lakers you can bet your wife and children on that if the team color for you is yellow the team color for the rest of the team is purple. These are the small details that break the immersion. Shoes are the worst sinner in the VC hell 2K insist on putting us through every year. A custom colorway pair of Adidas shoes I made would cost me 7500 VC. So if I wanted to make a home and away option, you know since there in most cases are different base colors used home and away, this would cost me 15.000 VC. It's just ridiculous.

The one VC related thing they did back down at a couple of years ago was the franchise mode, which was totally unplayable because of the VC walls they put in place. Then you had to "upgrade" your GM to be able to do a simple thing such as make a lineup change.

In that case, there isn't any incentive for any game to have extras that need to be earned or attained.

Call of Duty or Battlefield? Your military would supply you with the armament you need right? So walk into battle with whichever gun and armor you choose, it needs to be made be available to all then.

[Soze Mucky]

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i dont even bother playing a new player without buying 75,000 vc to get him to a decent level. another thing that pissed me off today is i got drafted to the raptors as a point guard, so me and justice young will be replacing lowry and derozan as starters rofl... such bull****.

[nuckles2k2]

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In that case, there isn't any incentive for any game to have extras that need to be earned or attained.

Call of Duty or Battlefield? Your military would supply you with the armament you need right? So walk into battle with whichever gun and armor you choose, it needs to be made be available to all then.

It really is a little ridiculous the way "Prez" is hyped early on tho. The whole "60 seconds with Jason Richman" or whatever it's called...for a guy that has the skill set of a late 2nd rounder, in a draft class with Simmons, Ingram, & Dunn... Why does anyone know who "Prez" is? He'd project to have a more Jeremy Lin "outta no where" type arrival than someone who's being hyped. Not covered entering into the draft. Hyped, media coverage talking about his signing day decision coming out of HS -- for a dude that can't dribble, can't shoot, could barely run, got the vertical of someone sitting in a bean bag chair..

C'mon lol. You serious?

[MoodMuzik]

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It really is a little ridiculous the way "Prez" is hyped early on tho. The whole "60 seconds with Jason Richman" or whatever it's called...for a guy that has the skill set of a late 2nd rounder, in a draft class with Simmons, Ingram, & Dunn... Why does anyone know who "Prez" is? He'd project to have a more Jeremy Lin "outta no where" type arrival than someone who's being hyped. Not covered entering into the draft. Hyped, media coverage talking about his signing day decision coming out of HS -- for a dude that can't dribble, can't shoot, could barely run, got the vertical of someone sitting in a bean bag chair..

C'mon lol. You serious?

Remember when Sebastion Telfair was hyped to take over the league WITH LeBron James? Lol Stephen Marbury had a whole documentary about him too.

Andrew Wiggins: toted as the "Next LeBron James"

1 year later Ben Simmons still in college called the "Next LeBron James", then taken #1 in the draft.

No one knows how these guys are going to turn out, hell Simmons just broke his foot we don't know if he'll end up being very good at all.

The media is never shy about giving a guy NBA Great comparisons and trying to find the next big thing. Most often the media falls on its face, as does that player.

And again, for being drafted as a 55 overall, for all the hype Pres gets, without being able to run, shoot, dribble, layup... you can still by the end of your ROOKIE SEASON finish with an average 27ppg 7 assists and 8 Rebounds with probably 3 steals and 2 blocks. Lol it's a game, your overall doesn't dictate everything.

[nuckles2k2]

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Remember when Sebastion Telfair was hyped to take over the league WITH LeBron James? Lol Stephen Marbury had a whole documentary about him too.

Yet they both had hoops skills & showed potential.

Like I said, your MyCareer dude starts with attributes in the 40s. Who's making a documentary about the kid who can't dribble, shoot, board, or play D, in HS?

[MoodMuzik]

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Yet they both had hoops skills & showed potential.

Like I said, your MyCareer dude starts with attributes in the 40s. Who's making a documentary about the kid who can't dribble, shoot, board, or play D, in HS?

And like I said, it's video game, so you can still nearly average a triple double your rookie season as a 55 overall lol

[nuckles2k2]

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And like I said, it's video game, so you can still nearly average a triple double your rookie season as a 55 overall lol

Title of the thread is "MyCareer Has a Realism Problem" - seems like somewhere along the lines you got away from that.

All I'm asking is "when does an unskilled(according to the ratings) basketball player get noticed out of HS the way Pres does?"

You started talking about Wiggins -- clearly has basketball talent & potential. Came into the league athletic af. Came in with his jumper surprisingly further along than most thought it would be.

Then Simmons -- comes into the league with a combo of size, athleticism, court vision, and handling the ball, that *can* be something special for years to come.

And then there's Pres. No discernible basketball talent that separates him from your average joe you'd find competitively hooping on the weekends, maybe even in your amateur leagues strewn across the country...but in 2K, he's the next big thing. The nation wants to know which school he's picking. Coach K wants...no...NEEDS him on Team USA.

And that's a realistic package...

Either have the attributes match the story, or ditch the story & let us make our own destiny.

Don't tell us we're the next coming of Uncle Drew while possessing the basketball skills of an older dude who's nieces & nephews call him "uncle drew"

[Bernte]

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Last year, you “Lived the Dream.” This year you experienced your “Prelude” to greatness. Both of these modes in Visual Concepts’ NBA 2K franchise were supposed to acclimate and immerse you into the game’s premier mode, MyCareer. Both years had you assume a player whose visage and role you could create, but whose persona was already determined via the story mode crafted by Visual Concepts. I’m not here to talk about the merits of last year’s “movie of the week” presentation (personally, I liked it) or this year’s evolved version that grants you much more control over your player during your rookie NBA season.

I’m here to talk about something else. Just like last year, your guy. You. The President of basketball, aka Pres, flat out SUCKS!

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that definitely reminds me of something...
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...put-words.html

[MoodMuzik]

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Title of the thread is "MyCareer Has a Realism Problem" - seems like somewhere along the lines you got away from that.

All I'm asking is "when does an unskilled(according to the ratings) basketball player get noticed out of HS the way Pres does?"

You started talking about Wiggins -- clearly has basketball talent & potential. Came into the league athletic af. Came in with his jumper surprisingly further along than most thought it would be.

Then Simmons -- comes into the league with a combo of size, athleticism, court vision, and handling the ball, that *can* be something special for years to come.

And then there's Pres. No discernible basketball talent that separates him from your average joe you'd find competitively hooping on the weekends, maybe even in your amateur leagues strewn across the country...but in 2K, he's the next big thing. The nation wants to know which school he's picking. Coach K wants...no...NEEDS him on Team USA.

And that's a realistic package...

Either have the attributes match the story, or ditch the story & let us make our own destiny.

Don't tell us we're the next coming of Uncle Drew while possessing the basketball skills of an older dude who's nieces & nephews call him "uncle drew"

I get where everyone is coming from, but "MyCareer Has a Realism Problem" is going to always be around.

Case in point, you can average 30/5/5 just by getting starting minutes over the course of your rookie season as a 55-65 overall. That's unrealistic.

If we come in the league as let's say a 75, good skill set but tremendous upside... well... that just means we can now average 40/10/10 lol. And win the next MVP, FMVP, and Rookie of the Year and do the same for the next 12 years for 12 rings in 12 Finals appearances without even having to increase our overall at all, and the more we add on our skills and badges... the more all of the above happens lol. And that's a realism problem.

Being a Tireless Scorer having 35 ppg then you get the double team but your GOLD Dimer badge let's you hit up your SG in the corner for your 11th assist and the next time you do it your GOLD Hustle Rebounder let's you snag the rebound for your 12th rebound and your Scrapper badge let's you put it bag in for 2 more points with the foul... lol realism problem. Which is why I like the Archetypes if they can find a happy community balance.

Unless 2K drastically changes the game, MyCareer is going to have a Realism Problem. But it's a game, so they have balance fun and challenge, but also let the user do what they want.

All in all, give me Roster Edit and Sliders for MyCareer, and we're all good lol.

[Streets]

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Remember when Sebastion Telfair was hyped to take over the league WITH LeBron James? Lol Stephen Marbury had a whole documentary about him too.

Andrew Wiggins: toted as the "Next LeBron James"

1 year later Ben Simmons still in college called the "Next LeBron James", then taken #1 in the draft.

No one knows how these guys are going to turn out, hell Simmons just broke his foot we don't know if he'll end up being very good at all.

The media is never shy about giving a guy NBA Great comparisons and trying to find the next big thing. Most often the media falls on its face, as does that player.

And again, for being drafted as a 55 overall, for all the hype Pres gets, without being able to run, shoot, dribble, layup... you can still by the end of your ROOKIE SEASON finish with an average 27ppg 7 assists and 8 Rebounds with probably 3 steals and 2 blocks. Lol it's a game, your overall doesn't dictate everything.

I think this is key. My player is a A 6'5" playmaking poing guard currently rated a 69 after 25 games.

Yet I'm averaging 23 points, 8 reb, 13 ast, 3 stl, 3 to, shooting 55/42/75.

I just take good high quality shots and try to set up my teammates. Despite my "rating" this guy is worthy of the hype. Won a couple player of the weeks, one player of the month and am first in all star voting for east back court players.

I'm playing on All Star but if you want to dominate, do like my gf who doesn't watch basketball and has never played 2K and put it on Rookie. She's averaging 29 points, 12 assists, 7 steals, lol. Was drafted 2nd to the Lakers too. Why is the overall number important? Are people to proud to put it on rookie?

[335TDC]

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If we come in the league as let's say a 75, good skill set but tremendous upside... well... that just means we can now average 40/10/10 lol. And win the next MVP, FMVP, and Rookie of the Year and do the same for the next 12 years for 12 rings in 12 Finals appearances without even having to increase our overall at all, and the more we add on our skills and badges... the more all of the above happens lol. And that's a realism problem.

Point well taken, but I think it would encourage a HUGE portion of the offline community to actual role play their archetype instead of grinding for VC to get your guy to where he should already have been. The unrealistic nature of the starting rating encourages unrealistic gameplay/stats -- they feed off each other. If my guy, drafted 7th, came in in the low 70's I would very much role play him.

But 2k won't cash in on VC with role players -- they're targeting the MyPark online max-stat ballers. Tying your player to that is a HUGE problem for offline sim players like me.

[laoala]

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it's embarrassing that your team gets you as well as their original first round pic.

three year legacy oversight.

so dumb.

[lordfr33]

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it's embarrassing that your team gets you as well as their original first round pic.

three year legacy oversight.

so dumb.

does it break the game for you?

[trandoanhung1991]

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If you, with starter minutes, on HoF or SS, get anywhere more than 10/5/5 average for your rookie season WITHOUT cheesing or abusing the ******** defense and actually play proper sim ball, I'd be impressed.

Oh and also no ball hogging either. That's too easy.

Yes I get it, you can ballhog and cheese your way to high stats, but that's not basketball. It's been that way since forever. But that's not how it should be, at all. That's just abusing broken game mechanics.

This would've been so easily solved if they just continued from last year and allow us to play full seasons of high school and college, and also let us choose when to enter the league. If you played like a god and got a ton of VCs, you can be a one-and-done guy. But if you played badly in HS and college, you might have to stay for 2, 3 or even 4 years just to have enough VC to be a role player in the NBA.

I can assure you, no one who has the basketball abilities of a great high schooler will be coined the next big thing.