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  • BrookJacoby
    Just started!
    • Oct 2016
    • 1

    #16
    Just like in all sports, the fans are interested in the stars, not the teams. A game with all the schools but generic players simply won't sell well in this day and age, even if there is customization galore. Even with that option, the software developer might be liable as O'Bannon's lawsuit specifically addressed the ability to create your own rosters as infringing on their publicity rights. The only way to be able to get a game is to have a bunch of developers write an open source game on the PC or phone/tablets for free. That is not an easy task at all, and the results will certainly pale to what most sports game fans are willing to accept.

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    • jaynral
      Rookie
      • Aug 2012
      • 93

      #17
      Man, F this stuff...the only loser here is us!!!.....I really, really love college football and basketball and only imagine how it would have been on next gen.. I watch college football and always be like, damn, that uni would have look so dope in the game

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      • goillini03
        MVP
        • Nov 2005
        • 1247

        #18
        Re: Supreme Court Rejects Hearing of O'Bannon Case

        Yeah, this sucks. I try to love Madden, but it is not nearly the game that NCAA has ever been. It truly looks like my video game playing days may be coming to an end.

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        • Black Bruce Wayne
          MVP
          • Aug 2015
          • 1460

          #19
          Originally posted by tril
          I think the developers are underestimating the demand for college sports. I think most folks are more concerned about school authenticity as opposed to player names, especially if those names can be customized.

          The developers should take their cue from the constantly growing number of college sports tv networks, and on line media outlets.

          college sports, media, and gaming are seeing an increase worldwide. I wonder if these companies have any real world data that would back up their claims that there isnt a market for college sports games.
          is there even a good sample size of generic roster games that would say otherwise.
          No, you are underestimating this:

          For college video games to return will require a couple of things.

          First, EA (or another publisher) will have to know there is no threat of litigation to proceed. Second, schools will want to know there is no threat of litigation to proceed as well.

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          • legonerfdude
            Rookie
            • Jul 2014
            • 24

            #20
            Re: Supreme Court Rejects Hearing of O'Bannon Case

            What about a generic high school football game


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            • DerkontheOS
              MVP
              • Jul 2009
              • 3144

              #21
              Re: Supreme Court Rejects Hearing of O'Bannon Case

              Did you wanna ruin a good day? Cause this is how you ruin a good day...

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              • cookjn
                Rookie
                • Feb 2012
                • 45

                #22
                Originally posted by BrookJacoby
                Just like in all sports, the fans are interested in the stars, not the teams. A game with all the schools but generic players simply won't sell well in this day and age, even if there is customization galore. Even with that option, the software developer might be liable as O'Bannon's lawsuit specifically addressed the ability to create your own rosters as infringing on their publicity rights. The only way to be able to get a game is to have a bunch of developers write an open source game on the PC or phone/tablets for free. That is not an easy task at all, and the results will certainly pale to what most sports game fans are willing to accept.
                I disagree with this sentiment. College football stars just aren't on their teams long enough to make a real impact with the average fan. How many fans can tell you about Jauan Jennings or Jourdan Lewis? How many fans knew who Lamar Jackson was around the time a new NCAA would have been theoretically released? As long as EA makes a game that replicates the excitement of college football and gives us each team's relative talent level, I firmly believe that people will buy it.

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                • Aggies7
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 9556

                  #23
                  Supreme Court Rejects Hearing of O'Bannon Case

                  Maybe it's just me, but I can't wrap my head around not being able to release a NCAA game with real teams/stadiums/fight songs and no rosters. When you start each game players are randomly generated before each game in Play Now or at start of Dynasty in that mode.

                  Therefore, everyone would have different rosters in their dynasty, avoid any players saying their likeness was being used.

                  And obviously the key would be No Custom Rosters or player editing.

                  Maybe I'm just missing something in this whole thing that would make the above non compliant with the issue.
                  Texas A&M Aggies
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                  • Mike Lowe
                    All Star
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 6304

                    #24
                    Re: Supreme Court Rejects Hearing of O'Bannon Case

                    For those looking for a college fix, try an online league using Bowl Bound. The game is updated to have the post season tournament, etc.

                    I loved NCAA 14 as well, and while it's not a console game, we're having a blast in our SSG college football league.

                    It's special beating someone without a gamepad.

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                    • Cam Fan
                      Pro
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 552

                      #25
                      Not to fear chums. There is talk to allow limited likeness compensation to athletes. I always considered this an option more viable than the courtroom route. Take a quick read:
                      In an interview with SI Now's Maggie Gray, Big East Commmissioner Val Ackerman stated that she believes within a year or two, NCAA student-athletes could receive endorsement deals.
                      Here's the link for details:
                      http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/for...orsement-Deals

                      Here's the SI.com video:
                      http://www.si.com/more-sports/video/...t-commissioner
                      Last edited by Cam Fan; 10-04-2016, 02:05 AM.

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                      • Cam Fan
                        Pro
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 552

                        #26
                        Here's the link to my previous post
                        http://www.operationsports.com/forums/college-football/878505-big-east-commish-says-ncaa-considering-endorsement-deals.html

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                        • Junior Moe
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 3824

                          #27
                          Originally posted by cookjn
                          I disagree with this sentiment. College football stars just aren't on their teams long enough to make a real impact with the average fan. How many fans can tell you about Jauan Jennings or Jourdan Lewis? How many fans knew who Lamar Jackson was around the time a new NCAA would have been theoretically released? As long as EA makes a game that replicates the excitement of college football and gives us each team's relative talent level, I firmly believe that people will buy it.
                          I cosign this one times 1000. College, more than any other sport IMO is about the schools and emotions. Yes. The players are a big part of it. I have lived and died (big time Saturday) with my Bulldogs for about 20 years now. It's the schools, rivalries, atmosphere, games like Saturday at Tennessee that hurt like hell but I love it. I could never get that vested in an NFL game. As a Georgia fan I been there a lot. Given where we are with litigation it seems the only plausible path is what 2K has done (complete fictional, non editable/sharable rosters, even going so far as to not allow the possibility); just blow it out. Get the schools, conferences and NCAA. Ensure that the rosters are don't come close to infringing on a players likeness. No cute stuff. This is just the reality. Its far better than some all generic college game. I cant see that selling at all. A real NCAA Football (or basketball) game with our favorite schools, stadiums and rivalries running on that Madden engine. That's something right there.

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                          • jWILL253
                            You know why I'm here...
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 1625

                            #28
                            They need to just license the players already and provide compensation (provided by NCAA, not EA) within reason.

                            They keep trying to dance around that issue and it's not going to work.
                            jWILL

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                            • ndfan1993
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 372

                              #29
                              Re: Supreme Court Rejects Hearing of O'Bannon Case

                              Originally posted by jWILL253
                              They need to just license the players already and provide compensation (provided by NCAA, not EA) within reason.

                              They keep trying to dance around that issue and it's not going to work.
                              This is the problem and what makes this, in terms of the existence of the NCAA and Feds, impossible. What is reasonable compensation? What about Title IX?

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                              • Grey_Osprey
                                Pro
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 745

                                #30
                                Since NCAA '14 was previously released, could they update/patch it without fear of further litigation? If so, wouldn't it be great to see a patch that A) provided a slider to increase scouting difficulty, B) updated conferences/added teams, and C) ported the game over to PS4.

                                I know it will never happen, just wishful thinking out loud. Ok. Back to the real world. sigh....

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