Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

[SECElit3]

Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

30% reduction says who?

Says uninstalling the game, reinstalling the game without the patch, and seeing for yourself. The difference is obvious as to what it was and what it is now.


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[roadman]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

That's really irrelevant.

The jist of it is that FG kicking is too easy. Virtually automatic, in fact.

This fact, especially combined with the exaggerated wind effects, really does ruin the dynamics of the game and make it a bland experience. Might as well just remove FG kicking altogether for what it's worth.

Stop saying FG kicking is too easy.

After the patch, I missed 2 50 yd plus FG's into the wind. The accuracy meter narrows the further the distance you go.

And there's no need to throw up numbers in the air to see if they stick. The kicking meter is not slower on AP for me.

You don't have the patch installed SEC, do you? Let's not go down the path that you can observe the kicking meter on twitch.

[T4VERTS]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

Says uninstalling the game and seeing for yourself. The difference is obvious.


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So basically you made up a number? Got it.

[Sturzinator]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

So a 10% change in the target zone automatically made it too easy?

If they had shrunk it 20% but everyone was still kicking at 100% success would it really matter?

The outcome is the same.

[Sturzinator]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

Stop saying FG kicking is too easy.

After the patch, I missed 2 50 yd FG's into the wind. The accuracy meter narrows the further the distance you go.

And there's no need to throw up numbers in the air to see if they stick. The kicking meter is not slower on AP for me.

Were you short, wide, or both?

[Rashad19]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

Agreed. I hate sounding like a broken record, but I am very concerned for the simulation gamer, speaking in reference to where I think this game might be headed from a game play standpoint. I can see that in the very near future, we will be fighting for sim aspects to return to the game. I am afraid, but convinced that remaining updates will build the game to more of a tournament state in preparation for the big money competition taking place soon. eSports seems to be focus point for EA. I can't see that amounting to anything good for the sim gamer. Guys, I see a storm on the horizon.

I am not placing blame on Rex or his team. He's even said it himself that he is concerned about interference from places above him. I am sure he is doing everything he can to fight for a simulation experience. Sometimes it's just out of your control.


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I am right there with you and have always felt the game should come with a simulation difficulty setting to cater to the simulation style gamer who wants an authentic NFL experience. I will say this though. After playing a sample game last night(I know small sample size) I missed an XP and had my RB fumble which I lost after I got smacked breaking out of a tackle. I played as the Bears vs. the Vikings and won a hard fought contest 16-8. Offensively I played close to vest running the ball and throwing short safe passes to milk the clock. Whenever I tried to open things up the Minnesota front four flat out got after me.


Defensively I played a bend but don't break style and was able to keep the Vikings offense in check but I never really felt stressed by their attack until late in the fourth quarter. Overall the CPU felt more aggressive on defense and my defense felt more sound up front. My defensively line was able to create a few negative run plays that helped me to keep them behind the chains.


I personally think style of play has a lot to do with the data Rex is analyzing and it's my fear we are adjusting the game based off guys who want to pass every down and send out every receiver yet doesn't want to be penalized by QB fumbles for throwing 40 plus times a game. They don't want to punt or deal with penalties that throw your offense off schedule.


So instead of learning to play a more sound game and think through how they should deal with the strengths of the opponent their facing they choose to complain and say how broken the game is. Those are just a few of my takes so I'll end my rant for now. I think a simulation mode could end a lot of the frustrations that I see daily on this board.

[T4VERTS]

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If they had shrunk it 20% but everyone was still kicking at 100% success would it really matter?

The outcome is the same.

Everyone isn't kicking 100% and they have the stats to prove it, not sure what your point is.

[SECElit3]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

So basically you made up a number? Got it.

I was was making a point. I have no idea what the exact percentage is. However, the kick meter on All-Madden is extremely slowed down from what it was out of the box. And looking at the pictures Jay D posted, that sure looks like more than 10%.


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[T4VERTS]

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I was was making a point. I have no idea what the exact percentage is. However, the kick meter on All-Madden is extremely slowed down from what it was out of the box. And looking at the pictures Jay D posted, that sure looks like more than 10%.


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Making up a number does not prove a point. The meter has always changed size based on distance, so the fact he showed three different distances at different sizes means nothing. The speed was not changed, but rather your perception may have. You want this to be true, but the fact is what you are saying is not.

[booker21]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

You make a good point with the last paragraph. That is exactly how I feel about Madden year after year, after several patches. The game becomes monotonous. It gets to a point where there is no strategy or true understanding of football concepts required for success. It gets to the point where ratings are no longer a factor, and the skill of the player wins out. It becomes a game built for the online gamer. I like game play that makes me think. Madden 17 was an amazing game release day. I loved it! Sadly, I don't feel it is that game anymore, and even more sad, I see it moving farther and farther away.




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Well they are going for this. After reading some tweets basically is what "championship" players who play for $ are asking to remove everything that is not controlled by the player.

And i think they are doing it.

1.-QB acc reduce, it`s almost imposible to throw a erratic pass to the ground.
2.-Drops by contact
3.-Kickin (this has something to do with the user but still)
4.-reduce break tackles
5.-drop interceptions
6.-wide open pass

How you can`t expect to get a monotonous game after all these changes?

This Forum has no comparison to what i read on tweeter, the most casual player on this forum is god sim compared to many of those that are on tweeter complaining about how they are in perfect position to do X and something unexpected happens, like drop a pass or miss the tackle or whatever.

[Champion8877]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

Says uninstalling the game, reinstalling the game without the patch, and seeing for yourself. The difference is obvious as to what it was and what it is now.


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A few pages ago you said you didn't and weren't going to install this patch. Now you are bringing up "obvious" differences pre and post patch, but you haven't played post patch? That doesn't make sense

I've played multiple games on all pro. There isn't a noticeable difference in speed, at least on all pro. And if there is a difference, it's very minimal and sure as hell not 30%


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[roadman]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

Were you short, wide, or both?

Short and wide with both.

[SECElit3]

Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

Stop saying FG kicking is too easy.

After the patch, I missed 2 50 yd plus FG's into the wind. The accuracy meter narrows the further the distance you go.

And there's no need to throw up numbers in the air to see if they stick. The kicking meter is not slower on AP for me.

You don't have the patch installed SEC, do you? Let's not go down the path that you can observe the kicking meter on twitch.

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Your argument is that you are missing field goals from 50+ yard in extreme circumstances. Talk to me when you start missing from 20 and 30 yards, which I did frequently prior to the first patch. See the photo I posted. So are you telling me that you are missing short field goals as well?



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[Hassan Darkside]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

I played one game last night, default All-Madden in my CFM. Cowboys vs Raiders.

-I couldn't run the ball at all in the first half. Zeke had 9 yards on 8 carries. In the second half I wore them down and finished with ~110 yds between Zeke and Morris. Outside runs definitely a lot harder.

-6 fumbles between both of us. They lost 2 of their 4. 3 were from Carr getting sacked, one was in throwing motion. I had one when trying to stiff arm with Zeke on the sideline (not the first time this has happened) and one when he was lit up right after catching a pass in the flat.

-I can't really speak on pressure in the pocket, but it was there. I was playing with a tweaked version of Charter's sliders beforehand where I was probably being pressured too much, but on default all-madden, there were times I was hit just on a 3 step drop and times where I had all day to throw.

-Playcalling seems a bit better. They weren't running 4 verticals on every 3rd and long.

-Final score was 41-14. By far the biggest win I've had so far in my CFM in my second season (5 games in). May have been different without all the turnovers.

-I thought the punting issue was known after they put in the tuner, unless it was online only. I've been playing an online single player CFM. But yes, in the wind the CPU can't punt.

[SECElit3]

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Making up a number does not prove a point. The meter has always changed size based on distance, so the fact he showed three different distances at different sizes means nothing. The speed was not changed, but rather your perception may have. You want this to be true, but the fact is what you are saying is not.

See, now that is blatantly false, and had this come up prior to the patch, I probably could have proved it. Remember, that I am one of the few who who went back and spent time with the game out of box. Yes, the difference is obvious.


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