28 years of Madden and the players STILL can't recover fumbles

[LacedGod]

I know I know, another thread whining about something? Don't we have enough of these already?? Well yes, but I wanted to bring this up specifically because it just cost me a huge TD and the fumble recovery "attempt" itself is ridiculous enough to share with you guys:

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I'm playing Denver in the AFC Championship in my offline CFM. The score is tied 7-7 and this fumble would have been HUGE to get. FIVE players get to the ball and none of them recover it. Instead, you see what happens. And then Denver immediately scores off a huge run the very next play to take the lead. Needless to say, I raged.

Now, things like this do happen IRL when players try to recover fumbles - I get that. But not to this extent and not this often. This very problem has plagued this game for years and it just never seems to be resolved. Any time there is a fumble, I have to cross my fingers and hope we recover it because I have no confidence that the players on my team can actually recover it. I try my best to steer them to the ball or dive on it, but it doesn't register or they just fly right by it.

I have no idea if there is a "real" fix for this, I just wanted to vent a bit and share that ridiculously unlucky play that just happened to me lol.

[slick1ru2]

Re: 28 years of Madden and the players STILL can't recover fumbles

I find it strange when someone picks up a fumble untouched and the play is then dead without advancing the ball.


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[Sturzinator]

Re: 28 years of Madden and the players STILL can't recover fumbles

I'm just happy to see that some other position besides QB can and will fumble in this game.

You're right though...I never seem to get them either.

[UltraHD]

Re: 28 years of Madden and the players STILL can't recover fumbles

I find it strange when someone picks up a fumble untouched and the play is then dead without advancing the ball.


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This doesn't seem to happen to me? Maybe I'm lucky.

[BleedGreen710]

Re: 28 years of Madden and the players STILL can't recover fumbles

to be honest i see this happen very rarely, almost as often as it happens in real life (players running into eachother while going for the fumble and so they both miss it). it does look really sloppy in the game though.

[wellred]

Re: 28 years of Madden and the players STILL can't recover fumbles

Fumble recoverises are a coinflip. You cant really be too mad about not getting one. Id be more mad about losing focus and giving up the big td run. After that first fumble Id think ok lets force another one.

[njmcfreak]

Re: 28 years of Madden and the players STILL can't recover fumbles

I find it strange when someone picks up a fumble untouched and the play is then dead without advancing the ball.


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It always seems like the play is called a fumble, yet at the same time the computer thinks it's a incomplete pass. I've only had it happen with the QB myself.

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[NEOPARADIGM]

Re: 28 years of Madden and the players STILL can't recover fumbles

I've always played it as though (on PS4) triangle or square (while pointing at the ball with the left stick) are the "get it" buttons. I've never felt as though I didn't have a legitimate chance at picking up a fumble.

[SmashMan]

Re: 28 years of Madden and the players STILL can't recover fumbles

I find it strange when someone picks up a fumble untouched and the play is then dead without advancing the ball.

What situations is this happening in-game? It might actually be a correct implementation of the rule:

ARTICLE 5. FOURTH-DOWN FUMBLE
If a fourth-down fumble occurs during a play from scrimmage:

a. The ball may be advanced by any member of the defensive team.
b. The player who fumbled is the only Team A player permitted to recover and advance the ball.
c. If the recovery or catch is by a teammate of the player who fumbled, the ball is dead, and the spot of the next snap is the spot of the fumble, or the spot of the recovery if the spot of the recovery is behind the spot of the fumble.

Note: After a change of possession has occurred, the restrictions in (b) and (c) are no longer in effect for the remainder of the down.

ARTICLE 6. FUMBLE AFTER TWO-MINUTE WARNING
If a fumble by either team occurs after the two-minute warning:

a. The ball may be advanced by any opponent.
b. The player who fumbled is the only player of his team who is permitted to recover and advance the ball.
c. If the recovery or catch is by a teammate of the player who fumbled, the ball is dead, and the spot of the next snap is the spot of the fumble, or the spot of the recovery if the spot of the recovery is behind the spot of the fumble.

[BleedGreen710]

Re: 28 years of Madden and the players STILL can't recover fumbles

what Smashman said is right and also sometimes with the physics, the players knee hits the ground when they scoop it up. I've seen that in replay mode a few times.

[andychar]

Re: 28 years of Madden and the players STILL can't recover fumbles

Well I've learnt something new today. Didn't know the 4th down or 2 minute fumble rule.

I've fumbled it...a lot. Tannehill doesn't seem to like to keep hold of the ball when hit and I've not seen it nearly this bad before. I've had a few scraps where your not sure who has the ball until the camera angle either changes or doesn't, but I've also seen this happen numerous times in real life.

It is a well known fact the ball is at its most slippery immediately after a fumble.

[NYJin2011tm]

Re: 28 years of Madden and the players STILL can't recover fumbles

I've had several instances of fumble recoveries and diving interceptions by both me and the cpu where there wasn't a offensive player anywhere near defensive play and play is dead with no chance at advancing the ball.


Even had one where sacked qb fumble scoop up by D player be whistled dead.

[game2180]

Re: 28 years of Madden and the players STILL can't recover fumbles

I feel like they tried to emulate pileups with random kicked balls and botched recoveries instead of going the button mashing route they did a few years back. I've encountered a ton of fumbles this year where I have one guy who is in good position to scoop it up and take off but instead can't grab the ball. That's when ridiculousness ensues, guys from both teams start diving at the ball and a recovery may not happen for about 5 seconds.

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[Sturzinator]

Re: 28 years of Madden and the players STILL can't recover fumbles

What situations is this happening in-game? It might actually be a correct implementation of the rule:

Implemented to prevent another "holy roller" from occurring.

I have seen some occurrences where a fumble was not advanced in M17 as well, and it didn't fall under either of these scenarios.

More patchwork needed here.

[timhere1970]

Re: 28 years of Madden and the players STILL can't recover fumbles

Would be nice to see the refs uncover the pile to find out who has the ball.