Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

[Jarodd21]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

Now that I have played a lot of games with the new patch (online ranked, Draft Champions, Online Franchise head to head, and play now/ franchise v the CPU) I've changed my opinion.

I'm not happy with most changes they have made.

I do like how the force players are playing outside zone better but, honestly I didn't have trouble stopping those before.

Kicking is just ridiculously easy for me now. My last online franchise head to head game me and my opponent where nailing 58 yarders easy. I wasn't even close one time according to the accuracy meter it still was dead on. I'm using the same kicker with the same ratings that I did pre patch.

- I loved the challenge before. I actually had a kicking advantage over most opponents because I practiced. I still had to really concentrate though. I also knew if it was over 50 I would struggle so field position was important. Now it's just mindless.

-OL DL doesn't account for ratings anymore.

I don't know what happened but, your OL won't matter anymore. 60 overalls will basically block the same as 90 overalls.

Just draft a bad team on purpose in a fantasy draft franchise or play draft champions without drafting OL DL. Won't matter much if at all. I've done both.

-QB's are about the same now.

My Rams QB Kennom was tough to use pre patch. I was around 57%. Now he can't miss. Same ratings.

I purposely didn't draft a QB in draft champions and used 70 over Conner Cook. Bad OL and all. I'm 3-0 so far and he's thrown for about 75-80% so far. He'll miss occasionally but, not much.

-Finally, ratings matter less than ever now IMO.

I shouldn't be able to draft the draft champions team I drafted and win how I'm winning.

I'm passing almost every time and using dime and nickel every time just to test.

My opponent has had elite DL that can't get pressure and they can't run against dime and nickel.

So I give the new patch a thumbs down. I don't support the direction they are going.


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I finally got fed up today and tweeted Rex and Clint about All-Madden being broken. I never tweet them guys but I'm not enjoying the game anymore. Clint actually responded back saying they didn't mess with anything besides what was posted with the patch notes. Saying I should raise the CPUs pass D up and that should help there coverage. I was like I have there whole Pass defense maxed out at 100. I gave him link to my sliders over here. I wish I knew how to post our little conversation.

They obviously broke something and don't know that they did because it's not playing the same at all. Me being able to shred the CPUs defense with the USER accuracy at 0 with there defense maxed out is crazy. You should tweet him too if you haven't already about this issue. They need to know that All-Madden is not playing the way it was pre patch.

[D81SKINS]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

Now that I have played a lot of games with the new patch (online ranked, Draft Champions, Online Franchise head to head, and play now/ franchise v the CPU) I've changed my opinion.

I'm not happy with most changes they have made.

I do like how the force players are playing outside zone better but, honestly I didn't have trouble stopping those before.

Kicking is just ridiculously easy for me now. My last online franchise head to head game me and my opponent where nailing 58 yarders easy. I wasn't even close one time according to the accuracy meter it still was dead on. I'm using the same kicker with the same ratings that I did pre patch.

- I loved the challenge before. I actually had a kicking advantage over most opponents because I practiced. I still had to really concentrate though. I also knew if it was over 50 I would struggle so field position was important. Now it's just mindless.

-OL DL doesn't account for ratings anymore.

I don't know what happened but, your OL won't matter anymore. 60 overalls will basically block the same as 90 overalls.

Just draft a bad team on purpose in a fantasy draft franchise or play draft champions without drafting OL DL. Won't matter much if at all. I've done both.

-QB's are about the same now.

My Rams QB Kennom was tough to use pre patch. I was around 57%. Now he can't miss. Same ratings.

I purposely didn't draft a QB in draft champions and used 70 over Conner Cook. Bad OL and all. I'm 3-0 so far and he's thrown for about 75-80% so far. He'll miss occasionally but, not much.

-Finally, ratings matter less than ever now IMO.

I shouldn't be able to draft the draft champions team I drafted and win how I'm winning.

I'm passing almost every time and using dime and nickel every time just to test.

My opponent has had elite DL that can't get pressure and they can't run against dime and nickel.

So I give the new patch a thumbs down. I don't support the direction they are going.


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Isn't Draft Champions, Head 2 Head, and CFM all tuned differently?
I'm surprised to see this though!

So far in my limited 3 games Post-Patch(2 more tomorrow I'm off), it's been very much improved, I have noticed the defenses are better vs Run, which seems to make them more susceptible to the pass at times.

Now the good news is! My 3rd string QB(both Cousins and McCoy were hurt for 1 game)got some PT!
He struggled greatly (using my modified AP sliders)!
He threw 4 ints in his 1st start.
I played with him just like he was Cousins and he STRUGGLED!
I'm thinking if you guys go back to All-Pro default and adjust it from their, you'll see more of that "Sim" feel!
I actually felt AP played better defense than AM did(pre-patch), haven't test AM Post-Patch. With the trouble I'm seeing with AM I'm afraid to linger too far away from my currently playing good AP set.
Idk, call me crazy but it sounds like it wouldn't hurt for some.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

The only negative I have noticed and am working on is CPU pass blocking. It is ridiculous easy for me to rush the passer now vs the CPU and being that I am using Oakland it is painfully obvious.

Just vastly OP so I am going to tune CPU pass blocking to an approbate level of earning sacks again. Just so easy to shed their blocks now on ALL-PRO.

[mpd3892]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

The only negative I have noticed and am working on is CPU pass blocking. It is ridiculous easy for me to rush the passer now vs the CPU and being that I am using Oakland it is painfully obvious.

Just vastly OP so I am going to tune CPU pass blocking to an approbate level of earning sacks again. Just so easy to shed their blocks now on ALL-PRO.

Interesting. Where is the pressure coming from, DTs or DEs? Also, how is the pressure when only rushing DL (no blitz)?

[cable guy]

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Interesting. Where is the pressure coming from, DTs or DEs? Also, how is the pressure when only rushing DL (no blitz)?

DE's for me. I can not get thru with my DT's. All madden. Now up to cpu pass blk 35

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[mpd3892]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

DE's for me. I can not get thru with my DT's. All madden. Now up to cpu pass blk 35

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Thanks. Wish it were otherwise. Therein lies the problem. Oh well. On we go.

[sooner1]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

Now that I have played a lot of games with the new patch (online ranked, Draft Champions, Online Franchise head to head, and play now/ franchise v the CPU) I've changed my opinion.

I'm not happy with most changes they have made.

I do like how the force players are playing outside zone better but, honestly I didn't have trouble stopping those before.

Kicking is just ridiculously easy for me now. My last online franchise head to head game me and my opponent where nailing 58 yarders easy. I wasn't even close one time according to the accuracy meter it still was dead on. I'm using the same kicker with the same ratings that I did pre patch.

- I loved the challenge before. I actually had a kicking advantage over most opponents because I practiced. I still had to really concentrate though. I also knew if it was over 50 I would struggle so field position was important. Now it's just mindless.

-OL DL doesn't account for ratings anymore.

I don't know what happened but, your OL won't matter anymore. 60 overalls will basically block the same as 90 overalls.

Just draft a bad team on purpose in a fantasy draft franchise or play draft champions without drafting OL DL. Won't matter much if at all. I've done both.

-QB's are about the same now.

My Rams QB Kennom was tough to use pre patch. I was around 57%. Now he can't miss. Same ratings.

I purposely didn't draft a QB in draft champions and used 70 over Conner Cook. Bad OL and all. I'm 3-0 so far and he's thrown for about 75-80% so far. He'll miss occasionally but, not much.

-Finally, ratings matter less than ever now IMO.

I shouldn't be able to draft the draft champions team I drafted and win how I'm winning.

I'm passing almost every time and using dime and nickel every time just to test.

My opponent has had elite DL that can't get pressure and they can't run against dime and nickel.

So I give the new patch a thumbs down. I don't support the direction they are going.


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Your exactly right. After the last patch and tuners the game has gone back to easy mode. Way too many deepballs. Zones are trash. The game is almost Madden 16 again without nanos. Whats EAs obsession with killing off the D???? It was awesome when the game first dropped. Now I don't care to put too much into this game its really really sad.

[charter04]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

At the end of the day it's Madden. Nothing will change that. I'm enjoying my online franchise. I even enjoy the other head to head online modes. Playing the CPU is repetitive and is fun to a extent.

It's a flawed game as far as OL DL and QB play goes IMO.

I'm choosing to do what I do every year. I'm just going to enjoy it for what it is and not obsess over what it isn't.

I think the devs are trying. I just think they have too many different types of FB gamers to please. Their job is impossible.


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[tyberious4now]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

[QUOTE=charter04;2048513073]At the end of the day it's Madden. Nothing will change that. I'm enjoying my online franchise. I even enjoy the other head to head online modes. Playing the CPU is repetitive and is fun to a extent.

It's a flawed game as far as OL DL and QB play goes IMO.

I'm choosing to do what I do every year. I'm just going to enjoy it for what it is and not obsess over what it isn't.

I think the devs are trying. I just think they have too many different types of FB gamers to please.

I mean I here you and like most people on here we really appreciate your work on the sliders...My thinking is why don't EA devs get with the sliders guys like yourself and a few more and collaborate on whats needed to be fixed...

That to me would save time and alot of headaches, and would also guide this game in the direction that it needs to go in...

Just my 2 cents! !!

[ajra21]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

The only negative I have noticed and am working on is CPU pass blocking. It is ridiculous easy for me to rush the passer now vs the CPU and being that I am using Oakland it is painfully obvious.

Just vastly OP so I am going to tune CPU pass blocking to an approbate level of earning sacks again. Just so easy to shed their blocks now on ALL-PRO.

really? i still can't get pressure when playing and i have four or five good pass rushers.

[roadman]

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really? i still can't get pressure when playing and i have four or five good pass rushers.

Yeah, I still get good pressure with the Packers.

Packers had 2 sacks and the Jags had 3.

Pressured Bortles to 52% passing.

Since I've been under the weather, I've played several games on AP and I will play one more game and come in with an update.

[ajra21]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

Yeah, I still get good pressure with the Packers.

Packers had 2 sacks and the Jags had 3.

Pressured Bortles to 52% passing.

Since I've been under the weather, I've played several games on AP and I will play one more game and come in with an update.

i get pressure but not sacks. if it weren't for simmed games (when i don't even use play the moments) i'd get about 20 a season MAX when my pass rushers are all good.

[michapop9]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

At the end of the day it's Madden. Nothing will change that. I'm enjoying my online franchise. I even enjoy the other head to head online modes. Playing the CPU is repetitive and is fun to a extent.

It's a flawed game as far as OL DL and QB play goes IMO.

I'm choosing to do what I do every year. I'm just going to enjoy it for what it is and not obsess over what it isn't.

I think the devs are trying. I just think they have too many different types of FB gamers to please. Their job is impossible.


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In a way they are the ones who make their job impossible. Everything on their end is tested on default, so if you enjoy default, good for you. That's what they tune the game for. However for anyone who wants tinker it turns into a nightmare.

Their gameplay is just not accessible. Ask any slider maker on this forum especially when a patch comes out. By the very nature of how they tune their game, it's a one size fits all for gameplay.

If you want to please more gamers, the tools are there, they're called sliders. Make them do what they say they do without unwanted side effects. Unfortunately that's not the way they are or really ever have been.

I know there's a variety of reasons for this (turnover, one year cycle etc.). But the balls in their court, if they gave us a solid set of sliders the community here would take care of the rest.

[Smoke6]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

At the end of the day it's Madden. Nothing will change that. I'm enjoying my online franchise. I even enjoy the other head to head online modes. Playing the CPU is repetitive and is fun to a extent.

It's a flawed game as far as OL DL and QB play goes IMO.

I'm choosing to do what I do every year. I'm just going to enjoy it for what it is and not obsess over what it isn't.

I think the devs are trying. I just think they have too many different types of FB gamers to please. Their job is impossible.


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Thats cool and all, its just not acceptable at all!

A job is a job no matter what it is, you wouldnt feel that way about someone servicing your car!

With that said, i agree with the above poster about sliders and getting things working out the gate even thru patches.

Madden is a game of Football, give us thst and the rest takes care of itself.

The different playstyles will just have to make do from the NFL AUTHENTIC experience!

[charter04]

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Thats cool and all, its just not acceptable at all!



A job is a job no matter what it is, you wouldnt feel that way about someone servicing your car!



With that said, i agree with the above poster about sliders and getting things working out the gate even thru patches.



Madden is a game of Football, give us thst and the rest takes care of itself.



The different playstyles will just have to make do from the NFL AUTHENTIC experience!

Ok. Sounds great. Let me know when it gets there. I won't hold my breath.


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