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  • booker21
    MVP
    • Jun 2003
    • 4928

    #631
    Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

    Originally posted by gcoons22
    I'm going to test more tonight. Extremely small sample size so far but the game plays better (for me) after deleting the tuner. Last night I deleted my profile and started an offline CFM with the Bills. Patch and tuner loaded. All-pro default everything. 9min quarters no run off. Auto-subs 80/60. 1st game @ Ravens in the rain. Game played ok but I was frustrated with lack of running game on both sides and Baltimore's inability to do anything on offense. The game felt rigid, scripted, and stiff. Today, I only had time to play one half of the same game (also in the rain) after deleting the tuner. Exact same settings. Game felt night and day different. Players had weight again, broken tackles, improved line play (for default anyway). CPU offense (Ravens) was a threat. Great mix of pass and run with steady long drive sustained success. Saw some errant throws but keep in mind this game was in the rain so that may have been a factor. Hard to describe but it felt much more dynamic and alive. Again extremely small sample size but I plan to play more tonight to explore further. It's worth the time for me to pursue this further. Also please keep in mind I'm an old guy (42) and not a great Madden player by any means. So that may factor in as well.


    This make me wonder again if the tuner it's not attached to the patch. Maybe the problem is the tuner.

    Let me explain.

    When the tuner got released I hate it how it played. So I deleted

    Now with the patch the tuner should have been attached to the patch. But since the game is still asking for the tuner. Maybe it's not included on the patch. So delisting the tuner brings gameplay to what it was even though if you have the patch.

    Confusing but on madden world anything can happen.


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    • cable guy
      MVP
      • Jul 2005
      • 3291

      #632
      Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

      Originally posted by gcoons22
      I'm going to test more tonight. Extremely small sample size so far but the game plays better (for me) after deleting the tuner. Last night I deleted my profile and started an offline CFM with the Bills. Patch and tuner loaded. All-pro default everything. 9min quarters no run off. Auto-subs 80/60. 1st game @ Ravens in the rain. Game played ok but I was frustrated with lack of running game on both sides and Baltimore's inability to do anything on offense. The game felt rigid, scripted, and stiff. Today, I only had time to play one half of the same game (also in the rain) after deleting the tuner. Exact same settings. Game felt night and day different. Players had weight again, broken tackles, improved line play (for default anyway). CPU offense (Ravens) was a threat. Great mix of pass and run with steady long drive sustained success. Saw some errant throws but keep in mind this game was in the rain so that may have been a factor. Hard to describe but it felt much more dynamic and alive. Again extremely small sample size but I plan to play more tonight to explore further. It's worth the time for me to pursue this further. Also please keep in mind I'm an old guy (42) and not a great Madden player by any means. So that may factor in as well.
      We're in the same boat age wise, I'm 45, and skills and or the way we play. I'm telling ya, it played great. The Cpu ran the ball down my throat. I played mostly cover 2, and didn't commit to totally stop it. But still, it's kinda the way I play. And Cousins threw into my zone to open recievers several times. Just hoping my qb accuracy levels out. The only thing I did was put user int at 35.

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      • gman2774
        MVP
        • Mar 2004
        • 1071

        #633
        Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

        Originally posted by booker21
        This make me wonder again if the tuner it's not attached to the patch. Maybe the problem is the tuner.

        Let me explain.

        When the tuner got released I hate it how it played. So I deleted

        Now with the patch the tuner should have been attached to the patch. But since the game is still asking for the tuner. Maybe it's not included on the patch. So delisting the tuner brings gameplay to what it was even though if you have the patch.

        Confusing but on madden world anything can happen.


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        I want to emphasize the really small sample size. I was hesitant to share my thoughts based on one half but I was excited to see the difference and wanted to share. However, I don't want to build false hope. The difference was noticeable enough for me to spend more time on it tonight. Like everything Madden, some will like it some won't. This might be a good find CableGuy!

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        • cable guy
          MVP
          • Jul 2005
          • 3291

          #634
          Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

          Originally posted by gcoons22
          I want to emphasize the really small sample size. I was hesitant to share my thoughts based on one half but I was excited to see the difference and wanted to share. However, I don't want to build false hope. The difference was noticeable enough for me to spend more time on it tonight. Like everything Madden, some will like it some won't. This might be a good find CableGuy!
          Absolutely, between both of us, 2 games lol.

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          • ajra21
            MVP
            • Oct 2011
            • 2170

            #635
            Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

            Originally posted by fistofrage
            Not really when the ai is controlling them. Do you ever see cam beat you with his feet? Their accuracy is about the same I. The games I play.
            cam destroyed me with his legs in one game. every time i beat the OL, he took off for big yards. tried QB spying him but that didn't work. they ran the option a dozen times too effectively.

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            • underdog13
              MVP
              • Apr 2012
              • 3222

              #636
              Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

              Originally posted by ajra21
              cam destroyed me with his legs in one game. every time i beat the OL, he took off for big yards. tried QB spying him but that didn't work. they ran the option a dozen times too effectively.
              How many rushes and yards?

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              • jfsolo
                Live Action, please?
                • May 2003
                • 12965

                #637
                Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

                Originally posted by ajra21
                cam destroyed me with his legs in one game. every time i beat the OL, he took off for big yards. tried QB spying him but that didn't work. they ran the option a dozen times too effectively.
                I would love to see this happen in some of my games.
                Jordan Mychal Lemos
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                Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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                • booker21
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 4928

                  #638
                  Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

                  Originally posted by ajra21
                  cam destroyed me with his legs in one game. every time i beat the OL, he took off for big yards. tried QB spying him but that didn't work. they ran the option a dozen times too effectively.


                  This is really hard to believe. The only time cam did something with his leg was in QB option. If it's a broken pass play he stay still and have little pocket movement.


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                  Last edited by booker21; 10-13-2016, 06:59 PM.
                  English, is not my first language.

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                  • D81SKINS
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 1671

                    #639
                    Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

                    Next time I play a mobile qb, I'm giving him the Paranoid trait and balanced force passes. This should force the cpu to attempt an escape more often and he will still be balanced or ideal Force passes.

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                    • mpd3892
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 494

                      #640
                      Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

                      Originally posted by cable guy
                      Deleted profile to play on all-pro. So this is with the patch. But I decided not to download tuner. The game played excellent. Totally different from the all-pro I played in august. I had trouble running the ball. The Cpu actually ran and passed great! They had almost 400 yds total offense. Except for 2 glaring issues. 1-cpu Oline pass blocking. Nonexistent. I easily get by the tackles with my ends. So I played with the LB's the rest of the game. It was really cool actually. 2-The bigger problem was the accuracy of my qb. I was playing with the Cowboys and Dak. WAY to accurate. As the game progressed brought qb acc down to 5. Only threw 2 passes at that point, but they were dead on target. I don't like to tinker with a slider to that extent in one game. So I'm hoping, that if I go to play another game, with that slider setting should definitely set in. Again, 1 game.

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                      Major props to you for 1 trying this and 2 sharing it with us. I really think you found something here. It doesn't fix all the problems, but man, its like a totally different game. I think we can work with this. Again, thank you very much. Great find!

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                      • Smallville102001
                        All Star
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 6542

                        #641
                        Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

                        Originally posted by cable guy
                        Deleted profile to play on all-pro. So this is with the patch. But I decided not to download tuner. The game played excellent. Totally different from the all-pro I played in august. I had trouble running the ball. The Cpu actually ran and passed great! They had almost 400 yds total offense. Except for 2 glaring issues. 1-cpu Oline pass blocking. Nonexistent. I easily get by the tackles with my ends. So I played with the LB's the rest of the game. It was really cool actually. 2-The bigger problem was the accuracy of my qb. I was playing with the Cowboys and Dak. WAY to accurate. As the game progressed brought qb acc down to 5. Only threw 2 passes at that point, but they were dead on target. I don't like to tinker with a slider to that extent in one game. So I'm hoping, that if I go to play another game, with that slider setting should definitely set in. Again, 1 game.

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                        I think I am going to try this now. I don't know why I didn't try with out the tuner sooner. It may be the tuner and not the patch that is a problem. I Know after the first tuner came out I got rid of it because it brook the game for me. Before the first tuner I had seen the CPU block one of my kicks like 3 times in 18 games. After the first tuner I saw like 6 CPU blocks in just like 4-5 games. So what's to say this tuner didn't cause some odd stuff like the first one did for me?

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                        • cityofchampions
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2016
                          • 106

                          #642
                          Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

                          Originally posted by underdog13
                          If that's your interpretation sure. But just because it is a video game doesn't mean it can't be a true representation of the game.

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                          Except that is exactly what it means, because it is not real. It is 3D character models many of which are controlled by the CPU. These games are supposed to be a bit fanciful, because that is essentially why people play video games. To do and see things they would not ordinarily do and see.


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                          • greed8819
                            Rookie
                            • May 2006
                            • 425

                            #643
                            Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

                            Originally posted by cable guy
                            We're in the same boat age wise, I'm 45, and skills and or the way we play. I'm telling ya, it played great. The Cpu ran the ball down my throat. I played mostly cover 2, and didn't commit to totally stop it. But still, it's kinda the way I play. And Cousins threw into my zone to open recievers several times. Just hoping my qb accuracy levels out. The only thing I did was put user int at 35.

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                            It seems like you and I have the same issue with HUM Acc, can you offer any more info what the game played like with the patch but without the tuner... did you try this set up on AM too?

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                            • booker21
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 4928

                              #644
                              Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

                              Originally posted by cityofchampions
                              Except that is exactly what it means, because it is not real. It is 3D character models many of which are controlled by the CPU. These games are supposed to be a bit fanciful, because that is essentially why people play video games. To do and see things they would not ordinarily do and see.


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                              I disagree. I would love to see ordinary things that I see on Sunday.

                              Not everyone want to play nfl blitz.


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                              • cable guy
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 3291

                                #645
                                Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

                                Originally posted by greed8819
                                It seems like you and I have the same issue with HUM Acc, can you offer any more info what the game played like with the patch but without the tuner... did you try this set up on AM too?
                                See that's the thing, I'm coming from AM with patch and tuner. Back to all-pro, with patch but no tuner. Honestly at this point I'm probably comparing apples to oranges. I apologize in advance, if this whole thing means nothing. Because all-pro was already getting a good post patch review. But anyway all-pro is playing great at default. Imo though there is slider tweaks needed. As to user qb acc. I started another game with acc slider at 5 for my qb. It appeared to make a huge difference. It was just a couple plays, but I have hope every qb will not look like Dan Marino. But trust me, I know how sliders work. But user qb acc at 5 looked to make a huge difference.

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