MyCAREER Has a Realism Problem

[wombatvvv]

Re: MyCareer Has a Realism Problem

The amount of loading it takes to get things done is mindblowing.

I accidently left at the start and could see the whole Kobe intro again.

See my last paragraph in the post above!

[wombatvvv]

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I love when people say 'put in the work' on a video game. A $60 sticker price should give you a player with a base rating that at least matches the narrative being told. Show me an example of a lottery pick that was rated below 60 their rookie year in 2k

... the problem isn't that your player isn't good enough for the narrative. It's that the narrative is too good for your player. I don't mind starting at the bottom and working my way up and I didn't buy a $60 game just to "have a good player". If that's what you like, good for you, just buy a bunch of VC and you will.

The problem is the narrative and the fact that it's totally stilted and scripted, not your starting stats. And the reason it can't change is because they insist on including cut-scenes and it would probably be too much work to make cut-scenes for every level of player. The solution? Leave the cut-scenes out. It seems only about 1% of people in this thread actually like them anyway. Replace them with written magazine articles or just social media comments or something that would be far easier to add a heap of variety to.

[wombatvvv]

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Here's the thing too, I'm under the impression, that any player drafted in the 1st round... their agent, friends, family, and themselves really believe they're going to have a great career. So the narrative is more often than not, there.

The other thing, it IS a video game, so the game is designed for the player to have the experience and the excitement that they're going to be the NEXT BIG THING. Because it's a video game experience to entice and excite the gamer.

To the people that buy this game ONLY for the MYCAREER GAME MODE... I understand your frustration.

But there is no shortage of VC. It is given to you in every game mode.

If you play a MyLeague game, about 1000 VC. If you play a MyGM game, that's about 1000 VC. Oh you accomplished a goal by your owner, here's some more VC, if you simmed your whole season and hit some goals, have some more instant VC. If you play MyTEAM, here's 1000 VC. If you play Blacktop, here's some VC. You want to just [I]PlayNow? Here's 1000 VC. Online MyLeague with your friends, here's another 1000 VC per game.

Oh you pre-ordered? Here's 5000 (minimum) VC

And for every game you play in MyCareer, here's 400-900 VC.

You get VC by playing 2k17, and you can spend it however, and wherever you want.

You can save a bunch of VC and use it all on your MyPlayer if you want before you even play an NBA game.

There's no shortage of VC if you're enjoying the game as a whole.

Agree with everything except the paragraph in red. As someone else commented just before or after the quoted thread, "Cognitive dissonance. Game designers need to learn how to make games" (or something). Too true.

The fun of any game is the challenge. The potential for failure and winning anyway. But you have to be able to fail for that to work. It it absolutely no fun, nor is it exciting for me to have a story rammed down my throat where I'm automatically "the next big thing", especially if I didn't earn it, and more than that, it's just stupid and and unrealistic.

If you disagree and you're paying the money for the game just to be the next Lebron James, just dish out an extra 50 bucks and buy a bunch of VC. Or better yet - just play as Lebron James.

[El_Poopador]

Re: MyCAREER Has a Realism Problem

Let me put it this way regarding your starting player ratings:

I am a better basketball player in real life than my #2 overall NBA draft pick My Player. I'm faster, I have better reaction time, and I can damn sure shoot better. So yes, My Career has a realism problem, because the player you start out with has no business even playing basketball at the college level, much less being drafted to an NBA team.

[MrDubya]

No reason for the 55 starting OVR other than to funnel frustrated users to purchasing VC.

Add the insane push to monetize on VC -- basically pimping an entire mode to it -- to the myriad bugs and glitches in gameplay and you have a company that put out a broken game while at the same time whispering in your ear to give them more money...!

I support 2k's right to have VC and I have not bought a single VC credit, so I'm not hating or saying they're "forcing" you to do anything. But the combination of a game released with so many problems, LEGITIMATELY broken features, and the VC push in MyCareer has me bailing ship.

I will NOT buy 2k next year unless significant changes are made to VC and the game's core features are confirmed to work out of the box.

The state of things right now is DESPICABLE and DISRESPECTFUL to customers.

I agree. It is a despicable and carny practice to do this.

[MrDubya]

Wow you complained about it being unrealistic and then gave them a ton of money to make your player better and more realistic??
Sounds like you did exactly what they wanted you to do. lol

Lol. Exactly. I'm not taking the bait anymore. Only reason I even got 2K16, was because it was free on PSN.

[rich8682]

Re: MyCAREER Has a Realism Problem

Let me put it this way regarding your starting player ratings:

I am a better basketball player in real life than my #2 overall NBA draft pick My Player. I'm faster, I have better reaction time, and I can damn sure shoot better. So yes, My Career has a realism problem, because the player you start out with has no business even playing basketball at the college level, much less being drafted to an NBA team.

So you think that you would be a 60+ overall in 2k? You think you can hang with NBA players? Did you play D1 ball? If not then you wouldn't stand a chance.

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[El_Poopador]

Re: MyCAREER Has a Realism Problem

So you think that you would be a 60+ overall in 2k? You think you can hang with NBA players? Did you play D1 ball? If not then you wouldn't stand a chance.

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No, I couldn't hang with NBA players, and that's the point I, along with many others, have been trying to make.

I can say that I can shoot better than my created player just by watching him shooting around in the gym. I can outrun him based on how long it takes him to sprint from one end of the court to the other. I have better reaction time based on how long it takes him to move when I press on the joystick, or how long it takes him to realize there is a loose ball at his feet.

No, I cannot hang with NBA players, and neither can my created #1 draft pick, who, in all honesty, barely belongs on a high school court with his skillset and athleticism.

[rich8682]

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No, I couldn't hang with NBA players, and that's the point I, along with many others, have been trying to make.

I can say that I can shoot better than my created player just by watching him shooting around in the gym. I can outrun him based on how long it takes him to sprint from one end of the court to the other. I have better reaction time based on how long it takes him to move when I press on the joystick, or how long it takes him to realize there is a loose ball at his feet.

No, I cannot hang with NBA players, and neither can my created #1 draft pick, who, in all honesty, barely belongs on a high school court with his skillset and athleticism.

Except your guy is a 55 by nba standards. You're probably like a 25.

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[El_Poopador]

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Except your guy is a 55 by nba standards. You're probably like a 25.

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You're missing the point. Clearly the OVR number doesn't mean much, because the player you start with can barely hit a mid-range jump shot alone in the practice gym. That is not an NBA-caliber player.

By the inflated OVR you get in My Career, I would be more like a 65, when compared to my player's starting attributes.

[rich8682]

Re: MyCAREER Has a Realism Problem

You're missing the point. Clearly the OVR number doesn't mean much, because the player you start with can barely hit a mid-range jump shot alone in the practice gym. That is not an NBA-caliber player.

By the inflated OVR you get in My Career, I would be more like a 65, when compared to my player's starting attributes.

Well the thing about that is that the shootaround doesn't actually represent how NBA players shoot in shootarounds. The shootaround is the same percentage as game shots.

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[El_Poopador]

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Well the thing about that is that the shootaround doesn't actually represent how NBA players shoot in shootarounds. The shootaround is the same percentage as game shots.

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Ok, he still struggles to hit a wide open jumper. I don't see what your argument is here.

[nuckles2k2]

Re: MyCAREER Has a Realism Problem

Ok, he still struggles to hit a wide open jumper. I don't see what your argument is here.

You're 100% right.

It can be summarized as "it would take at least one elite hoops skill to get that nat'l media attention out of HS. Your starting MyPlayer has none."

It would take something, anything, to separate yourself from the thousands of HS hoop & AAU players. You'd need something to flash, and then show consistently to get your name mentioned on the national scale. Your starting MyCareer player is bottomed out, RPG style, but the scripted story presents you as a player who has already shown flashes of brilliance on the court, without ever really going into detail about what separates you from all of the other players who can run, dunk, pass, and shoot, when need-be...

I mean...Lance Stephenson has been hyped since his days at Lincoln, he dominated on then court -- you could see the handle, the athleticism, the finishing around the rim...and he didn't get the type of hype you see 'Pres' get from the jump. 'Pres' is on par with The Brow, KD, & Irving. But all 4 people named came into the league with elite NBA attributes that teams wanted to nurture & develop. 'Pres' comes in with a story of being the "next big thing" while having the skills of a rec league player.

Anyone who tries to "defend" the current setup is just on that "non-consumer consumer" kick. "If it's good enough for me, then that means it's clearly the best it can be."

[nokehawk]

One other problem. The media is talking about how I'm the story of the year, and I rank 164th in jersey sales, even though I was named a starter for the All Star team. I mean, which is it? Am I a huge f'n deal, or a scrub who sells fewer jerseys than Quincy Acy?

[nokehawk]

i dont even bother playing a new player without buying 75,000 vc to get him to a decent level. another thing that pissed me off today is i got drafted to the raptors as a point guard, so me and justice young will be replacing lowry and derozan as starters rofl... such bull****.

Don't spend the VC on your player until you see what situation he's drafted into. I learned that the hard way last year.