When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

[GiGAHEART]

..because this is a big deal.

HUGE.

Devs of 2K, believe it or not, there 2 kinds of 2k players:

1. OFFLINE GUYS ("Old School") - Guys who wanna have realistic, immersive & authentic NBA simulated experience just like watching actual NBA games. Guys who play with real life friends / family at home. Guys who dont care about VC, like, at all. Guys who wanna customize & edit rosters, teams, etc. fully without annoyances & constraints just like previous gens. Guys who care more if the NBA2K game has depth into it like core gameplay & customization.

2. ONLINE GUYS ("Dudebros") - These guys mostly care about stats on the online leaderboard & have cash for VC. They generally dont care about actual gameplay & depth, they just wanna improve their online notoriety. Bragging right guys, if you will.

So, since I started as PS1 guy & NBA fan since KG T-Wolf era, I fall on the 1st category. I KNOW IF GAME, NOT JUST 2K GAMES, IS WORTH IT OR NOT. For sure guys like me would agree in this, because we're experience for literal 4 gens of gaming now & we see it coming a mile away without internet reviews help (before EGM reviews).

What ticks me off with the latest update 1.04 on PS4 is it feels it caters towards more online guys. Since this update, as I play CPU, they DO NOT MISS AND-1s & close shots. At all. Try it, youll see.

And personally since day 1 I never had issues with layups & whatever because I TURN ALL HUD OFF, including shot meter, NEVER NEEDED IT, NEVER WILL.

It is infuriating that 2K breaks the offline systems of the game to favor online guys.

Why cant 2K do COMPLETELY SEPARATE UPDATES for both offline & online guys? How is this acceptable? The only positive thing 1.04 brought was stats in loading screen & David Aldridge, which is mind you, ON-DISC ALREADY. But we all gotta download ANOTHER 7 GB of patch because online guys cant sort themselves out.

First it was the Dream Team issue, then the NEW JERSEYS & SHOES DOES NOT UPDATE YOUR CUSTOM ROSTER prior to 1.03 (which came 3 weeks since tipoff so obviously some of us already edited our rosters) because it is not coded in the game itself but thru patches, then you still see the NAMELESS GENERIC COACH every timeout huddle & now they are literally splitting the NBA2K community.

Just SMH, man.


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[Mweemwee]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

In before the arguments

[GiGAHEART]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

So when does 1.05 drops?

[KoolAidNoSugar]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

2. ONLINE GUYS ("Dudebros") - These guys mostly care about stats on the online leaderboard & have cash for VC. They generally dont care about actual gameplay & depth, they just wanna improve their online notoriety. Bragging right guys, if you will.

Maybe before you decide to disrespect a whole group you should do your research. We all care about the gameplay. Post like this just make you seem ignorant.
Go read these threads and see what people are saying before complaining like 2k isn't trying to find a balance



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[Wangchung91]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

The amount of whining in this forum is unreal. Go play NBA live 2006

[ihoopfor206]

When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

Or people online like to play competitive basketball against a human being. What an arrogant post with a beaten to death topic.


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[BegBy]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

The amount of whining in this forum is unreal. Go play NBA live 2006

The amount of whining about people who 'whine' is even more staggering. Unsurprisingly they are always followed with a 'go play something that's 10 years old' or 'patches were never a thing in my day' as it's indicative to the mindset of the derp behind the comment. Guess what, pal - it's almost 2017 and times have changed.

I'm playing 2K16 as it's more relative to the current title and it's just a better playing game right now. If I had Live 2006, I'd plug it in, but it still wouldn't be relevant to the discussion.

[GiGAHEART]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

Or people online like to play competitive basketball against a human being. What an arrogant post with a beaten to death topic.

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They are "competitve" because of a GLORIFIED ONLINE RANKINGS, definitely & absolutely NOT for the realism, authenticity & immersive simulation of NBA basketball.

And nobody had brought this specific, possible solution UNTIL I did.

Nice try defending whats wrong in the game thats why we are at FOURTH PATCH now & 60GB total gamesize & its gotten into even more chaotic mess like we paid $60 for broken beta.

[GiGAHEART]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

The amount of whining in this forum is unreal. Go play NBA live 2006

Nice attitude.

"Hey guys lets just NOT COMPLAIN WITH A GAME WE PAID $60 for & be content with bad design choices & systems!".

Awesome.

You just remind me why I hate this gen now, DLCUTCONTENT, preorder retail exclusives, SCAM PASSES, no more splitscreen, etc.

The tech is advancing but less features & some gamers gets more nickel & dimed.


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[fluent2332]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

The amount of whining in this forum is unreal. Go play NBA live 2006

Play NBA Live 10 instead. It's one of the best basketball simulation games ever made.

I say just make 2 separate games already, 2K. You have money, invest it. One game for MyCareer/Park/silly ballin' and one game for simulation/offline/online as well with better match-making, scouting and lobbies/chat. They used to do it years ago I don't see why they can't do it now. The $ talks, though.

[btrapp]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

I would just like to chime in that since 2k's latest update, offline play has gotten to the point where i'm ready to stop playing the game. The nba jam level of cheapness displayed by your ai opponents plus the stupidity of your ai teammates equals a game that simply isn't fun. I've got no problem missing open shots/layups as that's realistic, but the problem is that the ai doesn't seem to miss anything remotely open. "(The fact that my ai teammates leave guys like damon lillard WIDE OPEN constantly is one of the most ridiculously cheap things i've ever seen in a video game.)

I don't wont to completely give up on the game, but i'm definitely on the brink.

[GiGAHEART]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

^ PRECISELY, bro.

No matter the difficulty, CPU will NEVER miss close / paint shots & and-1s. Hope they fix that **** in 1.05, its terribly dissapointing.

And hopefully SHOT METER is gone too because...

SHOT METER = BAD DESIGN CHOICE. Shouldn't even exist in NBA2K games...
...shouldnt even exist in videogames particularly sports aiming for IMMERSIVE, REALISTIC & AUTHENTIC SIMULATION, period.

Let me ask you a simple question: DO YOU SEE A BAR OR METER BELOW YOUR FEET IN REAL LIFE WHEN YOU PLAY BASKETBALL? In NBA games broadcast live in TV, do you see these things?

Simple answer: NO.

Ive been NBA2K guy since PS2 era & eversince owning a PS4 then getting 2k15 for it & now 2k17, I turn all these things OFF.

Why?

Because thats how these kinda of games should be played: BASED ON SKILL & ABILITY TO TIME BASED ON RELEASE ANIMATION.

Just like, hello, IN REAL LIFE. You dont rely on bars & meters. You rely on practice & patience of learning. Now instead of doing that, guys literally look at shot meter, which is, again unrealistic. Why do we even have it, whats the point of tutorials if ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS LOOK AT A BAR / METER?

Dont even get me started on SHOT METER ON LAYUPS & 90% of the time, contestef or not, you will miss. This alone makes 2k17 very unrealistic simulationwise compared to every othet interation in the series.

I will say it again, Shot Meter = Bad Design Choice by the devs, maybe one of the worst ones since NOT being able to edit headbands (which mind everybody LAST GEN they allow you to & they havent given us REASONS WHY we cant now) & make custom teams outside of MyLeague.

If NBA2k18 still have these bad design choices FOR NO REASON (seriously, if as SIMPLE AS FREAKIN HEADBANDS is a problem then I dont know) & the fact they have oldschool guys in MyTeam but NOT in roster & their classic teams, I dont know if I can support these guys anymore.

Its like someone here said; one step forward, TWO STEPS BACK.

[GiGAHEART]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

1.06 patch still does NOT FIX the CPU hitting and-1s 100% of the time. SMH

[itchyroll_51]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

1.06 patch still does NOT FIX the CPU hitting and-1s 100% of the time. SMH

You are a sim baller I assume and you are concerned with CPU performance. But the way you describe it just isn't detailed enough. You seem to worry about single possessions ? You should calculate the ORTG and DRTG of the CPU, then you will realize they are actually comically bad and not OP at all. 2K does do a good job at capturing offensive attack by AI relative to NBA offenses by certain teams.

[emmanuelk1]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

[QUOTE=GiGAHEART;2048516065]..because this is a big deal.

HUGE.

Devs of 2K, believe it or not, there 2 kinds of 2k players:

1. OFFLINE GUYS ("Old School") - Guys who wanna have realistic, immersive & authentic NBA simulated experience just like watching actual NBA games. Guys who play with real life friends / family at home. Guys who dont care about VC, like, at all. Guys who wanna customize & edit rosters, teams, etc. fully without annoyances & constraints just like previous gens. Guys who care more if the NBA2K game has depth into it like core gameplay & customization.

2. ONLINE GUYS ("Dudebros") - These guys mostly care about stats on the online leaderboard & have cash for VC. They generally dont care about actual gameplay & depth, they just wanna improve their online notoriety. Bragging right guys, if you will.

totally agree in this one!you can argue(online players) but its the truth. im an offline player and i want that realistic, immersive & authentic NBA simulated experience just like watching actual NBA games. since technology is getting bigger i expect it to be like that. and not to see an update on every online mode garbage whenever i open the game.