Fixes Coming For NBA 2K17 Shot Timing, Pass Speeds, Moving Screens, Defense and More

[jfsolo]

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They're going to reopen the door for EA and Live to make a comeback if they don't watch out.

As a non-loyalist to any company, that wouldn't be a bad thing. It would probably force a re-galvanization of priorities on many fronts, marketing, community interaction, release dates, and maybe even gameplay designs.

Misread you on that part, and I can agree with you on that part. Again, the old casual, sim and default settings would help that cause.

Really not sure why they would remove those options

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I disagree with the believe that shortened games should have altered success rates. I feel the same way about Madden. If you play shorter games, you should have lower scores, the baseline gameplay mechanics shouldn't be changes to allow for more scoring opportunities, IMO. It puts defenses at an even greater disadvantage than they already are, which is a considerable one to be sure.

[trekfan]

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As a non-loyalist to any company, that wouldn't be a bad thing. It would probably force a re-galvanization of priorities on many fronts, marketing, community interaction, release dates, and maybe even gameplay designs.



I disagree with the believe that shortened games should have altered success rates. I feel the same way about Madden. If you play shorter games, you should have lower scores, the baseline gameplay mechanics shouldn't be changes to allow for more scoring opportunities, IMO. It puts defenses at an even greater disadvantage than they already are, which is a considerable one to be sure.

Seconded, whole-heartedly. Sim gameplay can't be achieved without balance for both offense and defense; jacking up the gameplay mechanics to allow for higher scores on shortened quarter lengths will only lead to more imbalance and cause more issues.

This is what the "normalized stats" option is for in MyLeague. If you play six-minute quarters, fine, but if you want normalized sim stats, you can have those.

As to EA, I welcome them back into the fold. I don't find it a coincidence that since NBA Live's implosion and EA's constant missteps that 2K has progressively gotten further away from what it was at it's best. Without healthy competition, focus is lost. I don't know what EA may offer this year, but I will be very curious to see where they are.

If 2K is still suffering from severe issues at that time, I might even consider a purchase (if it hits PC) -- and I've never gotten an NBA Live title. I've been playing 2K since the beginning, but EA's approach to it this year is the first time I can recall the company actually doing something ... profound?

After all the missteps with the Live series, to say "We're not releasing till early 2017" is not only a big roll of the dice, it says -- at least to me -- that they:

A) Acknowledge how rushed the last two titles have felt
B) Have confidence that what they're releasing will at least be better that what came before.

Live has had some weird and bad last few years, but EA did something I never thought I'd see a sports gaming company do -- they delayed the release of their annual sports title till the middle of the actual sports season. They'll have a starting point not seen in modern sports games and could, potentially, alter the way annual sports titles are done. I'm intrigued by their strategy and even if it does blow up in their faces (I hope not), the fact that they took the step to delay the release till early 2017 is huge.

We'll see ultimately how it plays out, but competition is a good thing and having Live back can't hurt.

[lordfr33]

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They're going to reopen the door for EA and Live to make a comeback if they don't watch out.

LMAO hold up lets not get carried away

[Nukleopatra]

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LMAO hold up lets not get carried away

I've been one of the biggest 2k homers for years now. This is the first year I'd like to use my disc as a frisbee. I'm one patch/fix away from just giving up. The rosters/tendencies/badges are at an all time level of awful. The transition defense is laughable, the easy passes inside to an open big for as many easy buckets as you'd like, the ability to edit POEs (without having to enter a game) being removed, ball handlers randomly walking out of bounds several times a game, certain sliders don't seem to do anything... slider sensitivity needs to be increased... and there's a few more issues that can be listed.

Honestly, in previous years I just laughed at the whole randomly walking out of bounds issue - but this year it's a whole new level of annoyance.

[YSLxBanks]

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I guess this fix is coming today? Bring it on!

According to Mike's twitter. There won't be an update

[JazzMan]

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It's never going to happen of course, but looking at Mike's twitter, it's more clear than ever that there really should be at least 2 different 2K basketball games.

In so many people's mind, 90+ 3pt shooting ratings, plus badges, means that 80%+ shooting on open three pointers should be a normal thing.

They couldn't care less about actual NBA statistical norms, they want superhuman video game abilities to rule the day.

I think the NBA 2K fandom is exponentially worse than the Madden fandom in this regard. Not even taking into account the flaws that occur when implementing various gameplay systems, tuning for the 2K customer base is beyond nightmarish.

2k (or EA) could capitalize easily with an NBA Street type game. Put Park, MyTeam, and Pro-Am there, make it it's own brand. Make that the fantasy-type basketball game that quite a few people want 2k to be.

Then 2k can release their standard game, with MyLeague, MyGM, PNO, and an actual career mode.

I'd probably end up buying both games, to be honest.

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[twebb5896]

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According to Mike's twitter. There won't be an update

He said that? Link?

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[jfsolo]

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He said that? Link?

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He said that it hadn't changed yet, and some people decided that what he meant was that it he wasn't going to change it. He later updated his statement to say that it won't be changed for a while. I'm guessing he's going to study the metrics for at least several days before making the adjustment.

[YSLxBanks]

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He said that it hadn't changed yet, and some people decided that what he meant was that it he wasn't going to change it. He later updated his statement to say that it won't be changed for a while. I'm guessing he's going to study the metrics for at least several days before making the adjustment.

Im going by his statement saying there wont be for a while. Considering people expected one as soon as tonight, there wont be one.

[ViolenceFight]

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He said that it hadn't changed yet, and some people decided that what he meant was that it he wasn't going to change it. He later updated his statement to say that it won't be changed for a while. I'm guessing he's going to study the metrics for at least several days before making the adjustment.

That's the smart move. It's going to be hard to find a sweet spot if he can even find a sweet spot.


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[WISports]

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If you want NBA players to move like tanks, I'm in firm disagreement with it. In fact that is one of the reasons I found 2K16 to be such a poor representation of NBA basketball. Some of the most nimble athletes in the world moved like they were stuck in mud, and the still far from perfect movement system certainly didn't help. 2K17 is a great improvement. Basketball is one of the fastest sports in the world, especially in the modern state of the game. Slowing it down to a crawl doesn't make it more sim or more representative of the NBA, but exactly the opposite.

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Spot on.

People, go watch an NBA game on TV. These players move around fast. Real fast.

Obviously you don't want everyone running full speed all the time. There needs to be instances where guys are jogging, or even walking.

2K needs to study more tape IMO.

[WISports]

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I hope one of the fixes is making it so the CPU drives to the basket more. Right now they shoot jumpers 99% of the time.

I can't remember the last time I saw the CPU try to break me down and take it to the hole.

[Peninc]

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I hope one of the fixes is making it so the CPU drives to the basket more. Right now they shoot jumpers 99% of the time.

I can't remember the last time I saw the CPU try to break me down and take it to the hole.

They do it to me all the time. I just played Boston and Isaiah Thomas either drove on me or gave me the step back J if I backed off. Past 2Ks you couldn't get the CPU to shoot a midrange J to save your life. Do they shoot too many 3s? Maybe, but the numbers don't look wrong in the box score.

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[Nukleopatra]

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I hope one of the fixes is making it so the CPU drives to the basket more. Right now they shoot jumpers 99% of the time.

I can't remember the last time I saw the CPU try to break me down and take it to the hole.

I'm testing the 76ers/Thunder - and Russell Westbrook does try to drive, but he can't get around the brick wall known as Sergio Rodriguez... either that or the ball pops loose 95% of the time.

[WISports]

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They do it to me all the time. I just played Boston and Isaiah Thomas either drove on me or gave me the step back J if I backed off. Past 2Ks you couldn't get the CPU to shoot a midrange J to save your life. Do they shoot too many 3s? Maybe, but the numbers don't look wrong in the box score.

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Really? You using certain sliders?

If I give my guy an space, he jacks a 3. If I get tight on him, he'll dribble in one place or pass.

I barely ever have guys driving into the paint.