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  • ODogg
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2003
    • 37953

    #76
    Re: Kicking too easy after nerf?

    Originally posted by fistofrage
    Pretty lame response. Bigger fish to fry would mean there are more glaring issues than a broken slider and unrealistic % for the sim crowd. Would a basketball game be credible if everyone shot 98 to 100% free throw % in franchise and didn't have a slider to fix it?
    I agree that the sliders need fixed and they also need an explanation right on them as to how they work, something that btw I noted in my EA Sports Madden 17 playtest that I completed, but I don't agree kicking is in any way, shape or form "automatic" because for me it is not and I am not hearing that it is from my friends either.

    I'm not saying its not automatic for some of you guys, I'm sure it may be, but in general it's not an issue for the majority of people who play the game and therefor it is a "small fish" in regards to what EA needs to look at addressing in this version.
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    • fistofrage
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      • Aug 2002
      • 13682

      #77
      Re: Kicking too easy after nerf?

      Originally posted by ODogg
      I agree that the sliders need fixed and they also need an explanation right on them as to how they work, something that btw I noted in my EA Sports Madden 17 playtest that I completed, but I don't agree kicking is in any way, shape or form "automatic" because for me it is not and I am not hearing that it is from my friends either.

      I'm not saying its not automatic for some of you guys, I'm sure it may be, but in general it's not an issue for the majority of people who play the game and therefor it is a "small fish" in regards to what EA needs to look at addressing in this version.
      OK lets focus on realism here. In the NFL Sunday night game there were two field goals of under 30 yards missed in OT. There have been 23 Extra Points missed this year.

      11 Teams have FG% under 80%. 4 Teams are under 70%.

      The EA team said they wanted to focus on realism and making special teams special again. There is no way to achieve these numbers with kicking game in its current state and a broken slider. It's more than a big fish to fry, it's the whale in the room if you focus on realism.
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      • fistofrage
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2002
        • 13682

        #78
        Re: Kicking back to automatic, why?

        This now is my biggest beef with the game. I can find work arounds for almost everything else, but there is no fixing this with sliders or traits.

        EA told us special teams would be special again, they even highlighted the Minnesota Kicker missing a chipshot in the play-offs. The kicking system was great fro offline users out of the box.

        How can we get that gameplay back. The game is unplayable knowing all you have to do is get to the 30 yard line in a tight ball game in the 4th quarter and you are automatically going to win. They took away all they late game dramatic dynamic gameplay. You aren't going to fumble, and you are going to make the kick every time.

        It's killing me knowing we had something we begged for for years, and it was just patched right out of the game.
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        • ODogg
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2003
          • 37953

          #79
          Re: Kicking back to automatic, why?

          Originally posted by fistofrage
          This now is my biggest beef with the game. I can find work arounds for almost everything else, but there is no fixing this with sliders or traits.

          EA told us special teams would be special again, they even highlighted the Minnesota Kicker missing a chipshot in the play-offs. The kicking system was great fro offline users out of the box.

          How can we get that gameplay back. The game is unplayable knowing all you have to do is get to the 30 yard line in a tight ball game in the 4th quarter and you are automatically going to win. They took away all they late game dramatic dynamic gameplay. You aren't going to fumble, and you are going to make the kick every time.

          It's killing me knowing we had something we begged for for years, and it was just patched right out of the game.
          I guess I just suck at kicking then, LOL, well it's not automatic for me is all I'm saying. I definitely am fine with the way it is but yes, I would like the slider to be fixed if it's not working right (I've never messed with it)
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          • JayD
            All Star
            • Mar 2004
            • 5457

            #80
            Re: Kicking back to automatic, why?

            I just booted a 52 yard field while missing the sweet spot with no problem. I even have Field Goal Accuracy set to 33. I love the direction they tried to go to but then the nerfs came due to latency for online games. I hope in the near future offline will be treated differently than online. I would be happy if they would adjust field goal accuracy so we can tune it ourselves.

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            • baconbits11
              MVP
              • Oct 2014
              • 2619

              #81
              Re: Kicking back to automatic, why?

              Originally posted by Brimmy25
              Kicking is so easy now Hellen Keller could go 27-27 for a season.
              If this is true, why don't you put on a blindfold everytime you kick and see how that goes?

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              • NDAlum
                ND
                • Jun 2010
                • 11453

                #82
                Re: Kicking too easy after nerf?

                I'm legit about to roll a dice or put some random generator with my Fg% in there to determine if I should make or miss it


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                • ODogg
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 37953

                  #83
                  Re: Kicking too easy after nerf?

                  Originally posted by NDAlum
                  I'm legit about to roll a dice or put some random generator with my Fg% in there to determine if I should make or miss it


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                  Just start icing yourself!

                  Seriously though this raises a larger question, is community feedback always a good thing?

                  Because this has been changed due to people missing field goals. Either people online or people like me who just plain aren't that good at it (I'm getting old what can I say) it's changed due to feedback.

                  I guess it'd be somewhat of a moot point if the slider actually worked eh?
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                  • fistofrage
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 13682

                    #84
                    Re: Kicking too easy after nerf?

                    Originally posted by NDAlum
                    I'm legit about to roll a dice or put some random generator with my Fg% in there to determine if I should make or miss it


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                    Yes, but it shouldn't have to come to that. I did this way back in NCAA football when they decided to make that automatic too. But if I'm going to use dice and sim, there are a lot of better options than this game.

                    This is so ridiculous that we have to go to these extremes, it worked out of the box. EA put time and resources into making it dynamic and then they destroy it with a patch and leave us with a broken slider.
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                    • JayD
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 5457

                      #85
                      Re: Kicking too easy after nerf?

                      Originally posted by ODogg
                      Just start icing yourself!

                      Seriously though this raises a larger question, is community feedback always a good thing?

                      Because this has been changed due to people missing field goals. Either people online or people like me who just plain aren't that good at it (I'm getting old what can I say) it's changed due to feedback.

                      I guess it'd be somewhat of a moot point if the slider actually worked eh?
                      It was confirmed that the changes to kicking were made due to latency issues for some users online.

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                      • ODogg
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 37953

                        #86
                        Re: Kicking too easy after nerf?

                        Originally posted by JayD
                        It was confirmed that the changes to kicking were made due to latency issues for some users online.
                        Uh yeah...latency...that's why I missed (eyes dart around nervously)
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                        • Greencollarbaseball
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                          • Jun 2012
                          • 926

                          #87
                          Re: Kicking too easy after nerf?

                          If they could somehow find a way to make kicking happen user side (think mlbts online pitching) then I think all the issues with lag would go away and they could make kicking harder again.


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                          • DeuceDouglas
                            Madden Dev Team
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 4297

                            #88
                            Re: Kicking too easy after nerf?

                            Originally posted by Greencollarbaseball
                            If they could somehow find a way to make kicking happen user side (think mlbts online pitching) then I think all the issues with lag would go away and they could make kicking harder again.
                            This is what we were told it'd be prior to release, not sure what happened.

                            Kicking is done with the A/X button on XB1/PS4 respectively. Timing for online games is done client side so there is NO LAG.

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                            • fistofrage
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                              • Aug 2002
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                              #89
                              Re: Kicking too easy after nerf?

                              Originally posted by Greencollarbaseball
                              If they could somehow find a way to make kicking happen user side (think mlbts online pitching) then I think all the issues with lag would go away and they could make kicking harder again.


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                              It's a good question to pose. But they have nerfed everything else so I'd imagine they would have nerfed it anyway. We just need good responsive sliders that work.
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                              • Greencollarbaseball
                                Pro
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 926

                                #90
                                Re: Kicking too easy after nerf?

                                Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
                                This is what we were told it'd be prior to release, not sure what happened.


                                I knew I read that before. I even asked them on twitter and of course, was ignored.


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