NBA 2K17 Remains a Solid Buy

[trekfan]

Re: NBA 2K17 Remains a Solid Buy

Whoever wrote this is surely entitled to their opinion. It just seems odd that there's no evidence the author has paid any attention to the community feedback in the official OS 2K17 Impressions thread.

If he hasn't, then the post is nothing more than his impression, among the many.

If he has read the thread and chooses to pretend all that feedback doesn't exist, then how is this an even an OS community article? If his opinion differs, he should at least acknowledge the existence of the overwhelming majority of people who explicitly do not experience the game as he does, and maybe explain why his opinion is different.

I must second this wholeheartedly. I'm not sure what the author of the article is even doing -- it seems like a revised impression but doesn't take into account the multiple patch releases since the initial release, as well as the bugs that have cropped up/continue to plague the game.

In fact, the article tends to gloss over all that and if anyone is on the fence about buying it, it very much leads them to believe that the game is just fine and everything's okey dokey.

Which is misleading. I think there needs to be clarification at the top of the article that it represents one reviewer's impression/opinion and I believe there needs to be a separate article exploring the issues 2K17 is facing at the moment.

[RoyalKrimpet]

The lack of Roster Updates are pretty frustrating already. Some moves like the Michael Carter-Williams trade & Lance Stephenson signing with the Pelicans were made in more than enough time for a update, but every Thursday you can count on packs & updates added every week for MyTeam, not every player cares about that mode.

You have make an effort to please everybody instead of advertising your latest pay wall.

[Hustle Westbrook]

Re: NBA 2K17 Remains a Solid Buy

It was a pretty good game at launch, despite all the bugs.

However, all these tweaks, tunes and patches have turned the gameplay into a mess. As an online player I'd advise you to stay as far away from this game as possible until around late December when the patches have dropped and the gameplay is brought back to a sim (or at the very least playable) state.

I also hope that this is the last year they do the September release. I won't even bother buying this game again next year if they try to do that again. I thought the Prelude was cool but don't try to rush out the full game almost a month before the normal release date just to be greedy.

[de5m0n]

Re: NBA 2K17 Remains a Solid Buy

Gave this game a 9 the first time I turned it on but now I'd probably give it a 7.5 due to so many broken feautures.

[BegBy]

Re: NBA 2K17 Remains a Solid Buy

If this game gets a 9 with the list of broken and bugged things, then that 9 seems pretty suspicious.

Anything with that many issues can't legitimately warrant a 9 out of 10, whether it be a video game, a can opener or a car. Consumers are not that forgiving. Money is a hard thing to come by and even more difficult to let go of.

[scottyp180]

I don't know, dudes. I think most of the people on here sound hyper critical. I admit I've only had the game for 2 weeks, but I have to say I feel very real changes in this game, and I love it. The dribbling feels real, shot-making feels real.

Last year's defense was insanely over-powered user-to-user. The amount of times I let players go by me on defense just so I could swat them from behind was insane. Unrealistic, as fun as it was.

This year, I really enjoy the fact that when you create space from the defender, you are rewarded. This is how basketball should work. The game is founded upon ball movement, and shot creation. I'm much more impressed with how this version of 2K represents true basketball.

If you're concerned with defense in the game, ask yourself if you see stellar defense night in and night out in the NBA. In my opinion, its the job of these games to create a simulation true to what we see in basketball today. It's the same reason why the running game in Madden feels weird. Teams don't run the ball that effectively in the NFL, yet Madden chose to create their own version of events.

I'm happy that you can take difficult looking shots, and hit them if you've created space. When you watch a basketball game, you see insane athletes making ridiculous plays. Is everyone just upset that there isn't an NCAA 2K and taking it out on NBA perhaps? To me, this version looks like the real thing, and most importantly feels like it.

As a Knick fan though, Kristaps Porzingis looks like Ivan Drago, and plays like Wilt. He needs to be slimmed down, and less successful down low.

"If you're concerned with defense in the game, ask yourself if you see stellar defense night in and night out in the NBA."

This is something I wonder about for various aspects in gameplay, not just the defensive end. The players in the NBA have a varying level of skillsets and abilities. Doing certain things in the game will be easier or more difficult depending on the player you are controlling and player you are up against. For example if you are playing defense on Curry and you are controlling Jeremy Lin you'll probably struggle regardless of how good you are at the game. Now if you are controlling Gary Payton and are defending Curry it should be a bit easier. You might not lock him down for an entire game but you should be more successful than if you are playing as a poor defender.

This goes for various other aspects of the game and basketball. You need to understand both the player you are controlling and your opponent. If you don't play to the strengths and weakness of your team and your opponent you will struggle.

As for the various problems and issues people mention I think it depends on the modes you play and how much you let these bugs effect you. I've really only played Play Now and My Team and so far I haven't noticed any issues, especially since patches released, that ruin the experience. Perhaps others that have played more modes than I have experienced much more detrimental issues but when it comes to on court action bugs and issues have been at a minimum.

[Yesh2kdone]

Re: NBA 2K17 Remains a Solid Buy

If this game gets a 9 with the list of broken and bugged things, then that 9 seems pretty suspicious.

Anything with that many issues can't legitimately warrant a 9 out of 10, whether it be a video game, a can opener or a car. Consumers are not that forgiving. Money is a hard thing to come by and even more difficult to let go of.

Other items reviewed by OS and given a 9:

Tape measures


Walls:


Car cleaning kits


Drug dealer bags

[DBMcGee3]

I can't really speak on the online stuff, I don't play Park or any of that. That said, I've found the gameplay to be pretty solid.

The dribbling is still a little animation heavy at times, but it definitely feels better and more responsive than last year. Hopefully once I get the hang of it I'll have an easier time getting past defenders and shifting defenses. Right now I feel pretty limited offensively because of this and it can be frustrating, but I've seen enough videos of guys getting it right that I'm not ready to throw in the towel. Definitely getting tired of running so many pick and roll/fade plays though, lol.

I think rebounding and defending are both more fun this year because the ball feels a bit more alive, per say, and I really liked the addition of the skip pass.

The presentation is fantastic as well, loving the improvement on the interviews, etc, although I could still do without Coach Genero in the huddle, even though I'll admit he does drop the knowledge sometimes.

For me, it's an 8-8.5, but I really feel like my enjoyment level will go up when I get a little further through the learning curve.

[jax01]

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Pro-am is a "disasta". Lag outs every game, OVER POWERED SHARP SHOOTERS THREES, scrubs scoring 50 on ridiculous hand in face shots, moving screens, OP badges, a million hours to grind, etc. Cmon. Just play walk-on for a week and I guarantee you'll pull all your hair out. This game is a casual ballers DREAM. "You mean I can practically shoot 70% from 3's no matter my shot selection? Sign me up!"

And still 2K hasn't fixed the double team left bumper glitch. Why does CPU functionality even work in an online multiplayer mode. Makes zero sense. Someone calls for a screen, and my guys footplanting turns into quicksand because of the force field affect of the screen. Inexcusable.

2K16 gameplay > 2K17 gameplay

[shadio5]

"Assuming patches don't mess with that experience"....no need to assume now.

[Yesh2kdone]

Re: NBA 2K17 Remains a Solid Buy

Pro-am is a "disasta". Lag outs every game, OVER POWERED SHARP SHOOTERS THREES, scrubs scoring 50 on ridiculous hand in face shots, moving screens, OP badges, a million hours to grind, etc. Cmon. Just play walk-on for a week and I guarantee you'll pull all your hair out. This game is a casual ballers DREAM. "You mean I can practically shoot 70% from 3's no matter my shot selection? Sign me up!"

And still 2K hasn't fixed the double team left bumper glitch. Why does CPU functionality even work in an online multiplayer mode. Makes zero sense. Someone calls for a screen, and my guys footplanting turns into quicksand because of the force field affect of the screen. Inexcusable.

2K16 gameplay > 2K17 gameplay

I don't really play online, as this year is just boring, so I'm a career guy who plays on HoF difficulty. Despite nearly everyone claiming that scrubs are racking up serious numbers whilst being heavily defended, I've yet to see any evidence of this fact.

I take a shot with someone near me in career and there's a good chance I'm getting a d/f grade shot even with HoF SS badges.

[BA2929]

Re: NBA 2K17 Remains a Solid Buy

Well, the comment section on this article is about exactly how I figured it'd be before I clicked on it.

Can't even come to OS anymore without being drowned in negativity towards this game.

Seriously, why do you guys even own this game anymore if you hate it with this much passion? I would have sold it weeks ago if I felt same way you guys do.

[PPerfect_CJ]

Re: NBA 2K17 Remains a Solid Buy

Well, the comment section on this article is about exactly how I figured it'd be before I clicked on it.

Can't even come to OS anymore without being drowned in negativity towards this game.

Seriously, why do you guys even own this game anymore if you hate it with this much passion? I would have sold it weeks ago if I felt same way you guys do.

There is negativity towards the game because it is deserved. I would have sold mine weeks ago, too...if I hadn't purchased a digital copy. Lesson learned.

[Graphik]

Re: NBA 2K17 Remains a Solid Buy

Basically, the game has so much to offer...so many different modes, so many features in and out of game, it's impossible not to give 2K a "A" for its efforts.

I hear the pain of the online community, it seems they are the ones getting hit hard with glitches and bugs that make the game somewhat unplayable.

For a offline gamer such as myself, I enjoy the game. It seems each person plays the game their own way. Some people are HOF ballers who of course will go nuts for the cpu cheap tactics. Some people are constant slider adjusters or roster editors who are probably having a better time with the game than most. Some people are MyGM or MyLeauge gamers who edited the game to their liking. Some people play strickly MyPlayer. Some play MyTeam, some are simply casual players who play default everything with no tweaks.

With this years iteration of the game, there is something for everyone to enjoy(offline of course) and on the court, the game does play a nice game of basketball after you've made the proper edits and learned how to fully play the game.

I used to have a hard time dribbling, now I've learned when and where and against who I should use the dribble moves and I've gotten better. I've gotten better on defense and stoping a lot of the zip passes in the paint.(Although, after watching the real NBA the last 3 days, the game actually has it right to an extent. I saw it happen a ton against each team in the games I've watched so for it to happen 2 or 3 times a game seems realistic now)

Watching the real NBA games this week in general made me appreciate the game more. In my opinion, 2K actually had a lot of the shooter tendencies right from the jump. We complained about too many pull up 3s, step back jumpers and too much shooting in general. Well from the games I've watched, there have been a plethora of 3s, pull up transition 3s, step back 3s and every form of quick shooting possible and it was re-presented well at release to coincide with the league wide increase in scoring. Now we complained and what we got was 2K16.5 gameplay instead.

I definitely agree that the shooting numbers are a bit on the high side but thats my only complaint and I'm pretty close to my own personal remedy for that with sliders. The fast break game could use more work although my numbers come out good end game. I'm still not fond of the clunky TO menu system after 50 games. I still have a hard time navigating.

Everything else from the new animations, the new commentary, the presentation is now exactly like real life broadcast, the spacing, the rebounding, the post game, the live ball physics, the blocking and the way the players play like themselves has much improved this year over 2K16.

There is something to do for everyone whether you like to edit rosters, edit shoes and gear, play a fleshed out franchise with full practice, expansion and rule changes, play the fully customizable MyLeague, collect cards in MyTeam and we all know MyCareer even with its problems.

I'm confident that 2K will have the game at a playable state for everyone soon. Game has only been out a month, season has just started and all issues with the game are known and hopefully being worked on.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: NBA 2K17 Remains a Solid Buy

Some of it is definitely deserved. But I just find it funny how everytime someone speaks highly of the game while talking about THEIR experience, you see half of the forum go after that person like "Mannnn how in the world do you like that game? It's not even close to(insert hyperbole)" and people ready to force them to change their opinion of the game.

There was thread here where just last week(I think it was Smirkin Dirk)where that observation actually happened, lol.

2 months ago, folks were quick to shut down ANY negativity towards the game. 2 months later, now they're quick to shut down ANY positivity towards it.