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  • Yazan Gable
    Rookie
    • Aug 2014
    • 128

    #16
    Re: Official Madden NFL 17 Roster Update For Week 9 Available Now

    Originally posted by Slim4824
    In franchise the ratings reflect how well players match the scheme.

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    Originally posted by Yazan Gable
    A more stark difference is that the Vikings were shown as a 90 OVR team in Play Now but are an 81 OVR in franchise mode. It doesn't make sense that a team would be worse in Franchise than in Play Now by 9 points.

    Either they calculate OVR differently between Play Now and Franchise (perhaps scheme settings are being taken into account, but why would they before you even have a coach or player or owner selected?) or one of the numbers for total OVR is fake.
    You cannot fiddle with the schemes in franchise mode in such a way that you make a team change total OVR by 9 points, because for the most part it's an average of offense and defense so that means you'd have to lose about 18 points between offense and defense to make that happen.

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    • scottyp180
      MVP
      • Jun 2007
      • 2214

      #17
      Originally posted by akathejoker
      Why? Just why? Everytime someone getstraded to the Browns there ovr goes down every single time. It's happened for as long as u can remember. I remember Patterson the CB for the Eagles went to Cleveland and went from a 78 to a 71. Just cause Collins gets traded from the Pats he goes down 2 ovr?? Makes NO sense.
      I wonder if in these situations they expect coaching and schemes to have a negative effect on players. So for Collins maybe they think he benefitted from playing on a more talented, better coached defense and that going to the Browns will hurt his production. Just a guess.

      These are things that happen in the nfl and sports in general. Look at Deandre hopkins for example. From last year to this year there is no way he got less talented but with are worse qb throwing to him and possibly bad playing calling his production has dipped.

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      • scottyp180
        MVP
        • Jun 2007
        • 2214

        #18
        Originally posted by stooge 1010
        Why are they not fixing jay ajayi to dreds?peopple are complaining on ea sports forums to. Can they not fix hm without screwing something else up? They gotta know he needs dreds. I know it's minor but I like to have real accurate rosters.
        The past two years the released a player likeness update at some point during the season. My guess is that if they do it again this year, don't see why they wouldn't, that's when you'll see a play like ajayi get a hair update.

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        • scottyp180
          MVP
          • Jun 2007
          • 2214

          #19
          Originally posted by Yazan Gable
          I'm not saying the defense couldn't get better, but these roster ratings are based on how they've performed. Sean Smith and Reggie Nelson have not been doing as well as hoped and the defense as a whole has given up loads of yards and points. Despite this, it's 2 points better than one of the Top 5 defenses in the NFL? And the Patriots are considered to have an equally good defense than the Vikings? The Vikings have had a defensive OVR of 87 for weeks. The Patriots JUST CAME DOWN from their 89 Defensive OVR of last week to EQUAL the Vikings defense.

          Here's the spreadsheet I've been keeping (no Packers because this was meant just to keep on hand for when I started franchises and, well, I was never gonna use the Packers.)
          As a Pat's fan I don't know how their defense has been ranked so high. I know the pats have technically been one of the better teams in terms of points allowed but they are by no means a gteat defense like the broncos, Minnesota (minus last week), Seahawks, or Cardinals.

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          • Yazan Gable
            Rookie
            • Aug 2014
            • 128

            #20
            Re: Official Madden NFL 17 Roster Update For Week 9 Available Now

            Originally posted by scottyp180
            I wonder if in these situations they expect coaching and schemes to have a negative effect on players. So for Collins maybe they think he benefitted from playing on a more talented, better coached defense and that going to the Browns will hurt his production. Just a guess.

            These are things that happen in the nfl and sports in general. Look at Deandre hopkins for example. From last year to this year there is no way he got less talented but with are worse qb throwing to him and possibly bad playing calling his production has dipped.
            They're not consistent on that either, though. Phillip Rivers has had the offensive line fall apart for the past two years and still had one of the most productive passing offenses in the NFL. He was rated worse than Andy Dalton who had the best supporting cast than the NFL. Meanwhile Aaron Rodgers they recognized had a questionable supporting cast and they lowered his ratings much less than they did for Rivers. Usering Rivers, he's still a very good QB, but when he's got mid-80s OVR and in franchise after a year or two he's a 79 OVR QB and is being passed over for Case Keenum, it's a problem.

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            • sanderson13
              Rookie
              • Aug 2010
              • 59

              #21
              Jay Ajayai now an 82 OVR!

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              • KANE699
                EA Sports' Equipment Guru
                • Jul 2007
                • 3447

                #22
                Re: Official Madden NFL 17 Roster Update For Week 9 Available Now

                Originally posted by akathejoker
                Why? Just why? Everytime someone getstraded to the Browns there ovr goes down every single time. It's happened for as long as u can remember. I remember Patterson the CB for the Eagles went to Cleveland and went from a 78 to a 71. Just cause Collins gets traded from the Pats he goes down 2 ovr?? Makes NO sense.
                I do this for most players if not all that go into a new system, its just awareness and play rec.
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                • KANE699
                  EA Sports' Equipment Guru
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 3447

                  #23
                  Re: Official Madden NFL 17 Roster Update For Week 9 Available Now

                  Originally posted by Chiefsfan881129
                  Whoever the roster guy is i feel like he clearly doesn't watch games or anything.

                  Now some players he has done a fantastic job with but its clear he just picks n chooses who to increase & decrease & its very lame.

                  I noticed a couple players on the chiefs who got decreasd for no reason.

                  #1 is CB Phillip Gaines he been injured but as with last week when played an entire game he continues to shine & shut down his guys & he gets his 1st career INT last week & has been one of our top rated pff guys & he goes down 2 points? Ok whats the guy on because i want what he takin if anything he should be a 77 overall.

                  #2 Mitch Morse C has been a Stud all year & consistent all year but drops? Um he should be a 75

                  #3 Derrick Johnson Has a great game & continues to have a monster season & he drops -5 ok this is going to far.

                  #4 Poe i can understand to a dagree because he doesnt get alot of sacks but always doing good every week yet he drops 4 points whatever..

                  #5 Mitchell Swartch RT best RT in league gets dropped because he gives up a sack while playing on an injured ankle that henders his footwork ummmmm k but he put together 2 good weeks & cant even get increased is the roster guy a browns fan mad because he left?

                  #6 how is Steven Nelson getting increased yet Gaines gets decreasd? It should be other way around Nelson is the one getting beat because hes soft & doesnt play aggresive.

                  # 7 how is it an injured Allan Bailey gets dropped when hes out for year but a struggling I took the $ and ran Jaye Howard gets increased instead of decreased makes no sense?

                  #8 LDT RG continues to have a very good yr but he goes down in ovr? Do you ever watch games ratings guy?

                  Lastly Terrence Smith you have him listed as a ROLB but he is a MLB for us please correct this .

                  Look i get he gonna decrease guys & rightfully so but he is decresing the wrong guys & not the correct ones

                  I watch all chiefs game & even dvr them to review players & its not cool a guy playing so well gets decreasd vs incresed but yet i sse #20 out there steven nelson getting bruned & he gets bumped up ok

                  Not trying to disrespect anyone he has done good with guys like Hill & Wilson just wish he be more consistent & put more logic in when it comes to ratings he gets paid to do these atleast get it right..

                  Thats it for now good night...

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                  Yes I watch the games, good catch with T Smith.

                  I'm not sure how much more I can stress midseason updates, last game wasn't what was being reflected.
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                  • Chiefsfan881129
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 1953

                    #24
                    Re: Official Madden NFL 17 Roster Update For Week 9 Available Now

                    Oh ok kane great to know you watch & had no idea the games b4 didnt get reflected oh & can you update Chris Jones i think he is playing at RE the side Allen Bailey plays you have him listed as Jay Howard backup

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                    • Chiefsfan881129
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 1953

                      #25
                      Re: Official Madden NFL 17 Roster Update For Week 9 Available Now

                      Steve Nelson has also played alot better i was at kc game & noticed he finally playing like he should might have to consider upgrading him...

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                      • Chiefsfan881129
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 1953

                        #26
                        Re: Official Madden NFL 17 Roster Update For Week 9 Available Now

                        Originally posted by KANE699
                        Yes I watch the games, good catch with T Smith.

                        I'm not sure how much more I can stress midseason updates, last game wasn't what was being reflected.
                        & 1 more thing as well is there a reason you drop bench players like Tyler Bray for example as he never played so im just cerious the reasoning behind these thx again!

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                        • KANE699
                          EA Sports' Equipment Guru
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 3447

                          #27
                          Re: Official Madden NFL 17 Roster Update For Week 9 Available Now

                          Originally posted by Chiefsfan881129
                          & 1 more thing as well is there a reason you drop bench players like Tyler Bray for example as he never played so im just cerious the reasoning behind these thx again!

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                          That was a qb accuracy drop across the board for non elite qb's.
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                          • Phillyboi207
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 3159

                            #28
                            Re: Official Madden NFL 17 Roster Update For Week 9 Available Now

                            Can we please get Denver Kirkland moved to OT so we can sub him in at TE.

                            Also Darius Latham's strength is way too low at 74. You cant question his strength.

                            Also DJ Hayden has been pretty good for us. He still only has a 73 Man coverage

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                            • Chiefsfan881129
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 1953

                              #29
                              Re: Official Madden NFL 17 Roster Update For Week 9 Available Now

                              Originally posted by KANE699
                              That was a qb accuracy drop across the board for non elite qb's.
                              Oh okay that makes sense thank you for that info.

                              Can you look into Philip Gaines? I know he was hurt a lot but has played quite well & he doesn't get a lot of ints but he normally sticks to his WR's like glue.

                              Not sure why he dropped last week I just wanted to be sure you had correct info on him because even announcers on TV wave about how good he is. He playing more like a 77 to 79 CB. Just something to keep an eye on.

                              Great Job on Hill & Conley Ford & Rimik Wilson glad to see there getting love & glad to see Morse get some love this week. He clearly a stud hope it continues.

                              I have a feeling they & Chris Jones will continue to Trend upwards as season goes on

                              Also Houston started year at 97 & dropped 1 & he hasn't played yet do you remember What it was you lowered to get his rating dropped? Spread sheet doesn't show it for me.

                              Thank you again & keep up the great work have an awesome weekend!!



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                              • jerwoods
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 3002

                                #30
                                Re: Official Madden NFL 17 Roster Update For Week 9 Available Now

                                i hope i dont bug u on twitter too much kane jonescomp on twitter

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