MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[Kahler77]

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Hey all, have heard about this site before on reddit, trying to check it out. Was wondering if someone can give me an idea of the value on Trevor Bauer from the Indians? The Indians have most of their core pieces locked up for a few years, so not too many holes, especially with Allen and Zimmer as very good OF prospects, Naquin probably a good 4th OF type. the biggest hole is probably 1B going forward, so I was wondering what it would take to get any of Freddie Freeman from the Braves, Kyle Schwarber from the Cubs, Brandon Belt from the Giants, Wil Meyers from SD, or getting and moving a Evan Longoria from TB, Ryan Zimmerman from Wash? I think I would be good with any of those guys. Moving pieces I would let go of Roster players of Bauer, Shaw, Chisenhall, Naquin, one of the catchers, pitchers in one of Anderson or Clevenger, maybe Tomlin. Prospects I would let go in Kaminsky, Benson, Chang, maybe Aiken and maybe Meija. I think with Frazier gone I have to try to hold on to Allen and Zimmer. and Bradley is by far the best power hitter in the system, so he's not really going unless I get a schwarber or better type player back in a deal. I would also trade for another teams prospects, but don't follow other teams specs enough to understand.

I was also wondering does anyone know whats the best way to put together a coaching staff? in terms of what they add to each player and does a coaches age matter that much?

I dont believe age matters other then that older coaches are more likely to retire then younger ones.

As far as your first base issue zimmerman would cost the least by far IMO I think the nationals would trade his contract away for very little. Longoria probably cost you second least IMO. Will myers will cost you more then those two but less then Belt, schwarber or freeman. The last three will cost you and cost you big in the way of prospects

[Daonlyjmo7]

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What would a Miguel Cabrera trade to Boston look like? Not worried about contracts. But just the player aspect? No numbers, will be starting a carryover franchise with my tigers here shortly. So, money aside, what's the player value on him?

Also, is a Kinsler to SF for Panik and Heston deal realistic?

Not a chance.

[kenp86]

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Is a JD Martinez trade for Mateo and Severino too much? If so, what about a JD for Bird and severino? Too little?

And what's the market for Kinsler? Just trying to figure out destinations for these guys before I start my franchise and carry it over.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Is a JD Martinez trade for Mateo and Severino too much? If so, what about a JD for Bird and severino? Too little?

And what's the market for Kinsler? Just trying to figure out destinations for these guys before I start my franchise and carry it over.

Those feel too strong for Martinez. He only has 1 year left. The Bird + Severino package is closer to the right value, but Mateo is a top-25 type prospect. And Kinsler has big value, maybe the Dodgers would be a good landing spot.

[Kahler77]

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Rocky I think your assessment of zimmerman was right on and honestly i think for longoria an okay at best pitching prospect and player with low floor high ceiling is all it would take.

[kenp86]

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Those feel too strong for Martinez. He only has 1 year left. The Bird + Severino package is closer to the right value, but Mateo is a top-25 type prospect. And Kinsler has big value, maybe the Dodgers would be a good landing spot.

Ended up doing:
Kinsler to AZ for Archie Bradley
JD, Sanchez to NYY for Bird and Kap
Miggy to Boston for Moncada, Benentendi, Ball
VMart to Houston for Musgrave
JV to LAD for De Leon and Verdugo

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Rocky I think your assessment of zimmerman was right on and honestly i think for longoria an okay at best pitching prospect and player with low floor high ceiling is all it would take.

I didn't take the time to go back and look at which teams are involved but thats way lowball for Longoria. Also, Rocky has been banned on here plenty of times so theres no real need to give him options.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Ended up doing:
Kinsler to AZ for Archie Bradley
JD, Sanchez to NYY for Bird and Kap
Miggy to Boston for Moncada, Benentendi, Ball
VMart to Houston for Musgrave
JV to LAD for De Leon and Verdugo

Your Miggy deal is so bad (IMO) it hurts.

I know he's a star now but you got two top-10 prospects for a guy who is gonna make over $30M per season from till he's 42. There's a whole lot of negative value on the back end of that contract.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/gaugi...tin-verlander/ There's a table in here showing how his value will change as he ages.

[kenp86]

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Your Miggy deal is so bad (IMO) it hurts.

I know he's a star now but you got two top-10 prospects for a guy who is gonna make over $30M per season from till he's 42. There's a whole lot of negative value on the back end of that contract.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/gaugi...tin-verlander/ There's a table in here showing how his value will change as he ages.

I think that could end up being the cost in the end. Yes hrs owed 30+M over the life of the contract. Yes he's been injured a lot recently. But his numbers are still there. 30+HR and 100+ RBIs. Hall of Fame player. His numbers should soar in Fenway with the monster, the valley and the short porch in right. He'll be healthier if he's the DH. Plus look at the impact that he'd have on the hitters in front of him. JBJ will get better with Mookie behind him. And the season Mookie had was already amazing and. now you put arguably the best hitter of all time behind him.

Then you look at this. DD trades away prospects like no one else. And there's rumored to be 3 teams in on Miggy. Houston, Yankees and Boston. Created a bidding war. And the bidding war gets fueled more between the Yankees and Boston. I could see that this would end up being the final cost. Now maybe Detroit takes say a 10M bullet on the trade to make it happen.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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I think that could end up being the cost in the end. Yes hrs owed 30+M over the life of the contract. Yes he's been injured a lot recently. But his numbers are still there. 30+HR and 100+ RBIs. Hall of Fame player. His numbers should soar in Fenway with the monster, the valley and the short porch in right. He'll be healthier if he's the DH. Plus look at the impact that he'd have on the hitters in front of him. JBJ will get better with Mookie behind him. And the season Mookie had was already amazing and. now you put arguably the best hitter of all time behind him.

Then you look at this. DD trades away prospects like no one else. And there's rumored to be 3 teams in on Miggy. Houston, Yankees and Boston. Created a bidding war. And the bidding war gets fueled more between the Yankees and Boston. I could see that this would end up being the final cost. Now maybe Detroit takes say a 10M bullet on the trade to make it happen.

I'm not saying Miggy would be cheap. But asking a team to trade away Moncada + Benintendi is STEEP. Maybe you could get one, but those two are worth $147M in surplus value. So Miggy would need to be worth the $220M left on his deal plus $147 more.

I don't know that a player outside of Trout could be worth $367M over 7 years.

[Kahler77]

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I didn't take the time to go back and look at which teams are involved but thats way lowball for Longoria. Also, Rocky has been banned on here plenty of times so theres no real need to give him options.

My bad I didnt realize. Also yah in hindsight I am probably coming in cheap on Longoria just not a fan of the contract and the age at which it expires.

[Kahler77]

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Looking ahead to send Estrada somewhere in the off season. I know he grew up in California and played a lot of his ball there. In the game it also says he wants to be close to home so Im looking to facilitate a trade with a California based mlb team. Im thinking that given the state of certain teams like san diego and oakland who are rebuilding that they are off the table which leaves SF LAD and LAA. Which team do you guys think would be most likely to acquire him and what kind of prospect package would he bring back. Or what kind of mlb ready reliever prospect package.
Also wondering if dwight smith jr would be enough to get john axford from Oakland when the deadline nears. As oakland is already very far out of it so I know he would be someone who would be available

[tcsox11]

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Week before the deadline in my Red Sox franchise, its a madhouse for the wild card spots with about 8 teams within 6 games. I need an upgrade in my pen as i am looking for a lefty reliever. I was thinking JP Howell but the Dodgers are in contention so that does not help them. McGee from Colorado was another option but he's out for the season. I was also thinking Diekman but I am unsure of what his price is. Texas is in it but he's been terrible for them so I don't think they would mind trading him. I like his abilities so I am confident that if I get him he will be useful. Thanks

[redsox4evur]

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I'm not saying Miggy would be cheap. But asking a team to trade away Moncada + Benintendi is STEEP. Maybe you could get one, but those two are worth $147M in surplus value. So Miggy would need to be worth the $220M left on his deal plus $147 more.

I don't know that a player outside of Trout could be worth $367M over 7 years.

Yea the only way he could get both of those guys is if he takes on Sandoval, Porcelblo and Price's (with his 4 year option picked up) back in return. And even then I doubt the Red Sox do it. They have no intention of going out and getting a new DH in the mold of a David Ortiz. They are going to use the position like nearly every other team in the AL. As a stop to give a guy rest during the week or for our young guys like Travis, Moncada, Shaw, etc. Dombrowski had a conference of some sort this week and said this.

And if DD was willing to trade Moncada AND Benintendi we wouldn't have gotten Drew ****ing Pomeranz at the deadline it would have been a Sale type pitcher.

[Mattchu12]

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As the Yankees with both Gary Sanchez and Brian McCann on my roster, I don't want to waste a spot for just a back-up catcher that probably will never play, so I was wanting to get someone that can play catcher in a pinch if I ever needed it for some reason.

I was thinking about Peter O'Brien since I can use him in other spots as well as a pinch-hitter. He hit .216/.266/.393 with 22 HR, 69 RBI, and 1 SB for a -0.63 ShowWAR due to horrible defense and 153K's in just 514 at-bats, I imagine.

What's it take to get him?