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  • BigDofBA
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    • Aug 2002
    • 9070

    #1

    What purpose does a Conference Championship game serve?

    Ohio State had a great resume but they were rewarded by not getting to the conference title game.

    Penn State beat Ohio State, won Ohio State's Dickson, and won Ohio State's Conference.

    Ohio State gets in and Penn State doesn't. Shouldn't what happens on the field matter more than opinion?

    There needs to be criteria for what you have to do to get in. As it is, logic and reasoning changes from team to team.

    They really need to expand to 8 and have five automatic bids for power five conference teams. Then you can have threee at large bids. That way, every team "knows" what they need to do to get in and you can win your way in.

    If my team, Oklahoma, had played Washington's OOC schedule, they would have been undefeated and #2. Given that variable, why even schedule anybody good OOC?

    Penn State beats Ohio State and wins their league but it doesn't matter. Why even play the conference title game?
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  • Jr.
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    • Feb 2003
    • 19219

    #2
    Re: What purpose does a Conference Championship game serve?

    It looks good when a Coach goes to his AD to demand a raise, or coerce a raise by saying other schools want him.
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    • m1ke_nyc
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      • Oct 2009
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      #3
      Re: What purpose does a Conference Championship game serve?

      The purpose of the committee is to select the 4 best teams. Ohio State would likely beat Penn State 7 out of 10 times. I dont necessarily agree with how they choose but based on the fact they want the 4 best teams then I would pick Ohio State over Penn State. IMO the 4 best teams in college football right now are Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, and USC. I think they should go to 6 teams, take the conference champs from the power 5 conferences and 1 at large. I dont necessarily feel the best teams are always the most deserving. Penn State is the 3rd best team in the B1G but they are the most deserving based on winning the conference.
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      • BigDofBA
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        • Aug 2002
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        #4
        Re: What purpose does a Conference Championship game serve?

        Originally posted by Jr.
        It looks good when a Coach goes to his AD to demand a raise, or coerce a raise by saying other schools want him.
        I would think getting in the playoff would look better.
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        • BigDofBA
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          • Aug 2002
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          #5
          Re: What purpose does a Conference Championship game serve?

          Originally posted by ratedmoney
          The purpose of the committee is to select the 4 best teams. Ohio State would likely beat Penn State 7 out of 10 times. I dont necessarily agree with how they choose but based on the fact they want the 4 best teams then I would pick Ohio State over Penn State. IMO the 4 best teams in college football right now are Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, and USC. I think they should go to 6 teams, take the conference champs from the power 5 conferences and 1 at large. I dont necessarily feel the best teams are always the most deserving. Penn State is the 3rd best team in the B1G but they are the most deserving based on winning the conference.
          So do we go off what people "think" or what actually happens?

          I think we should go off the results on the field.

          I "think" Michigan is better than Ohio State. So does it make sense to put them in after they lost on the field?

          I think USC is better than Washington and they beat Washington. Why aren't they in over Washington? It's been established that winning the conference doesn't matter.

          If Ohio State can get in without winning their league why can't USC get in? The only difference is that USC beat Washington and Ohio state lost to Penn State.
          Last edited by BigDofBA; 12-04-2016, 02:14 PM.
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          • m1ke_nyc
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            • Oct 2009
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            #6
            Re: What purpose does a Conference Championship game serve?

            Originally posted by BigDofBA
            So do we go off what people "think" or what actually happens.

            I think we should go off the results on the field.

            I "think" Michigan is better than Ohio State. So does it make sense to put them in after they lost on the field?

            I think USC is better than Washington and they beat Washington. Why aren't hey in over Washington? It's been established that winning the conference doesn't matter.
            The committee is going off what they think. Thats the current setup. Like I said I dont necessarily agree with it. The purpose of the committee is to pick the 4 best teams. Your 4 best teams could be different from mine. I personally think Ohio State is better than Penn State so I would put them in because the setup is to pick the 4 best, not necessarily the 4 most deserving. I say go to 6 teams, and the conference champs get auto bids that way it makes it important to win the conference. Then 1 team that had a good year can get in at large. Im with you I'd rather reward the conference winner.
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            • kehlis
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              • Jul 2008
              • 27926

              #7
              Re: What purpose does a Conference Championship game serve?

              Originally posted by BigDofBA
              So do we go off what people "think" or what actually happens?
              Not sure who you mean by "we" but the committee goes off of what they think. And that's not a secret as outlined pretty clearly.

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              • BigDofBA
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                • Aug 2002
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                #8
                Re: What purpose does a Conference Championship game serve?

                Originally posted by kehlis
                Not sure who you mean by "we" but the committee goes off of what they think. And that's not a secret as outlined pretty clearly.
                In case you missed it, I was responding to the poster above me.

                I know the committee goes off what they think. I'm questioning their reasoning, logic, and point of a Confernce Championship game.
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                • Sportsbuck
                  The Predator
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 4329

                  #9
                  Re: What purpose does a Conference Championship game serve?

                  Holcutt said that what hurt Penn State was the 39 point loss to Michigan along with the loss to 4 loss Pitt. Having 2 losses to Washington's 1 is what hurt them. I have a hard time imagining Washington getting in with 2 losses on their resume, even with a PAC-12 title.
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                  • Sportsbuck
                    The Predator
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 4329

                    #10
                    Re: What purpose does a Conference Championship game serve?

                    Originally posted by BigDofBA
                    I was responding to the poster above me.

                    I know the committee goes off what they think. I'm questioning their reasoning, logic, and point of a Confernce Championship game.
                    It's all about $$$. Another game of revenue coming in. Most coaches don't like them because it's another chance to lose.
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                    • kehlis
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                      • Jul 2008
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                      #11
                      Re: What purpose does a Conference Championship game serve?

                      Originally posted by kehlis
                      Not sure who you mean by "we" but the committee goes off of what they think. And that's not a secret as outlined pretty clearly.
                      Got it, not sure what you're looking for then since you already know the answer to your question.

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                      • BigDofBA
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                        #12
                        Re: What purpose does a Conference Championship game serve?

                        Originally posted by kehlis
                        Got it, not sure what you're looking for then since you already know the answer to your question.
                        The main topic was the point of a Conference title game. The conversation evolved to the committee's decisions.
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                        • Jr.
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                          • Feb 2003
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                          #13
                          Re: What purpose does a Conference Championship game serve?

                          Originally posted by BigDofBA
                          I would think getting in the playoff would look better.
                          Maybe, but a committee's decision is outside of a coach's control. Conference championship is something they can control. It would be easy to brush that off.

                          Besides, your question wasn't which is better, just what is the purpose.
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                          • kehlis
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                            • Jul 2008
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                            #14
                            Re: What purpose does a Conference Championship game serve?

                            Originally posted by BigDofBA
                            The main topic was the point of a Conference title game. The conversation evolved to the committee's decisions.
                            Well as it sits with a four team playoff by definition it's obvious that it doesn't mean anything and you know that so I'm not sure what you expected.

                            I think we all agree that a four team playoff isn't ideal.

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                            • BigDofBA
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                              • Aug 2002
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                              #15
                              Re: What purpose does a Conference Championship game serve?

                              So the two best reasons I've heard for a Conference Championship game are....

                              1.) Money
                              2.) Leverages for coaches to get more money


                              To me this is a problem. I love college football but teams need to be able win their way in.

                              If it's all about money, why wouldn't you expand the playoff and make the championship games mean something?

                              I don't "think" Penn State is better than Ohio State either but the best indicator of who is better is the scoreboard after a game is over. It's who wins on the field. That didn't matter with Penn State.

                              The committee's logic is another issue and it's all over the board.

                              Washington is in over USC because they won the league but Penn State isn't in.

                              Michigan is out because they have two losses and record is important but W. Michigan is undefeated.

                              I wish the committee would have some criteria so teams know what they have to do. I really wish it would just expand to 8 so every team could have a chance to win their way in.
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