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  • isdatyt
    Pro
    • Feb 2012
    • 672

    #1

    What on Earth happened to defense?

    Why does it feel like my defenders on Ice or 10 times slower than the offense? We're sliding all over the place. I try to go in intense defense, I'm too slow. If I try to just run, I can't turn back quick enough when the offense changes directions so I overshoot. I just played an entire game of zig zag that would make 2K15 blush. What happened? It wasn't like this last night. WTF?

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  • mongo13clikke
    Rookie
    • Oct 2010
    • 243

    #2
    Re: What on Earth happened to defense?

    This is online right? Id say its simply lag. What you showed is exactly the reason why I cant play online, I have horrible lag since I play 2k. What you control gets executed later simply because the server doesnt answer faster.

    If you dont have online problems in general I dont know tbh. Offline everything is fine.

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    • boxlogo
      Rookie
      • Sep 2016
      • 110

      #3
      Re: What on Earth happened to defense?

      Originally posted by mongo13clikke
      This is online right? Id say its simply lag. What you showed is exactly the reason why I cant play online, I have horrible lag since I play 2k. What you control gets executed later simply because the server doesnt answer faster.

      If you dont have online problems in general I dont know tbh. Offline everything is fine.
      i thought i was the only one who noticed that. sometimes i would bring the ball up the court and somehow would turn the ball over even tho nobody touched it. im a firm believer that SOMETIMES i feel like i can be 1-2 seconds behind everybody else. maybe thats why i get the Shot Blocked notion on my screen even tho nobody touched the ball and it went up like a normal layup... its a mess

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      • geisterhome
        MVP
        • Sep 2011
        • 2101

        #4
        Re: What on Earth happened to defense?

        Yea played online once and it painfully laggy, drove me nuts lol, bless the lord I prefer offline franchise.

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        • gremdog8
          Rookie
          • Jun 2011
          • 272

          #5
          Re: What on Earth happened to defense?

          Originally posted by isdatyt
          Why does it feel like my defenders on Ice or 10 times slower than the offense? We're sliding all over the place. I try to go in intense defense, I'm too slow. If I try to just run, I can't turn back quick enough when the offense changes directions so I overshoot. I just played an entire game of zig zag that would make 2K15 blush. What happened? It wasn't like this last night. WTF?

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          It's been bad but tolerable but to me after the latest patch , defense has no chance online for me anymore. This game is serious need of game speed tuning or defense slider adjustments cause like you said, you feel way much slower on D than O. I know they want us to play like Steph but I rather not be forced to just play one style but basically that's what is happening and it's extremely disappointing.

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          • Diceman7
            Rookie
            • Sep 2016
            • 92

            #6
            Re: What on Earth happened to defense?

            I can't imagine what it is like playing this with a poor connection. It's awful and have a good connection. Just another mishap in a series of blunders by 2k. Keep up the good work 2k. String a couple more years like this and you'll be screwed.

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            • MadManCometh
              Banned
              • Aug 2007
              • 459

              #7
              Re: What on Earth happened to defense?

              On ball defense and your CPU A.I. teammates got nerf this year as they constantly leave shooters open and forget their assignments. But "stick skills matters". LOL

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              • acetheredcomet
                Rookie
                • Sep 2015
                • 178

                #8
                Re: What on Earth happened to defense?

                2K first allows HOF limitless, now CPU can't guard on pro-am or park worth a spit. LDD can't prevent ankle breakers from occurring even with HOF defensive stopper and Grand badge on. Every offensive archetype can dunk over rim protectors and LDD with no issue, completely disregarding defensive positioning.

                2K needs to nerf offensive speed and RNG or boost defensive RNG to make up for the speed boosting and half court greens.

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                • Korrupted
                  Pro
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 917

                  #9
                  Re: What on Earth happened to defense?

                  Defense in this game is absolutely terrible this year. It's the same way in Park/PRO-AM. Tons of sliding, sluggish movements and some horrible horrible defensive animations that allow offensive players to score. I thought 2k figured the defense out quite well in 2k16 and that it would be just as good in 2k17 but that's not the case.

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                  • MadManCometh
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 459

                    #10
                    Re: What on Earth happened to defense?

                    Originally posted by Korrupted
                    Defense in this game is absolutely terrible this year. It's the same way in Park/PRO-AM. Tons of sliding, sluggish movements and some horrible horrible defensive animations that allow offensive players to score. I thought 2k figured the defense out quite well in 2k16 and that it would be just as good in 2k17 but that's not the case.
                    Yup! And what's up with the PG not in position when his man is bringing the ball up court? That is so annoying as u are litterally forced to take control of the PG everytime someone brings the ball up the court to make sure he is defending his man.

                    Why is 2k ignoring this? Why have we had several patches to date and this not get addressed? How is that possible? They are professionals. They are leaders in the industry and supposed to be the best at what they do. How do they allow things like this to take place? We have had how many patches since release and this not get fixed?
                    I'm honestly disgusted with the process this year. I'm sorry, they are the best but I'm really disappointed.

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                    • Conspiculous
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 246

                      #11
                      Re: What on Earth happened to defense?

                      Originally posted by MadManCometh
                      Yup! And what's up with the PG not in position when his man is bringing the ball up court? That is so annoying as u are litterally forced to take control of the PG everytime someone brings the ball up the court to make sure he is defending his man.

                      Why is 2k ignoring this? Why have we had several patches to date and this not get addressed? How is that possible? They are professionals. They are leaders in the industry and supposed to be the best at what they do. How do they allow things like this to take place? We have had how many patches since release and this not get fixed?
                      I'm honestly disgusted with the process this year. I'm sorry, they are the best but I'm really disappointed.
                      Very valid statements. I do love basketball and my only current option is 2K, however if Live releases a decent game, I'd expect some to make the change.
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                      • acetheredcomet
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 178

                        #12
                        Re: What on Earth happened to defense?

                        another thing is the pick dodger seemingly not doing crap on bronze brick wall as I still get held up to leave a Sharpshooter open for a deep three, If i get on HOF will it fix anything, i doubt it, but I hope it does.

                        The only people that should hold me up on screens are bigs with HOF brick wall, not 5'7" pgs setting screens.

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                        • Rockie_Fresh88
                          Lockdown Defender
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 9621

                          #13
                          Re: What on Earth happened to defense?

                          Originally posted by acetheredcomet
                          another thing is the pick dodger seemingly not doing crap on bronze brick wall as I still get held up to leave a Sharpshooter open for a deep three, If i get on HOF will it fix anything, i doubt it, but I hope it does.

                          The only people that should hold me up on screens are bigs with HOF brick wall, not 5'7" pgs setting screens.
                          I have gold pick dodger and I still get caught up on screens from people who don't even have brick wall.
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                          • hanzsomehanz
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 3275

                            #14
                            Re: What on Earth happened to defense?

                            All these sad stories about LDD and mine is up to an 80 overall... have yet to bring him into the Online wilderness but man does it ever sound like a daunting task to prevail with a LDD 😢

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                            • Vroman
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 959

                              #15
                              Re: What on Earth happened to defense?

                              Originally posted by acetheredcomet
                              another thing is the pick dodger seemingly not doing crap on bronze brick wall as I still get held up to leave a Sharpshooter open for a deep three, If i get on HOF will it fix anything, i doubt it, but I hope it does.

                              The only people that should hold me up on screens are bigs with HOF brick wall, not 5'7" pgs setting screens.
                              Insta switching on screens is the only way to play somewhat successful defense, even if ball handler guarded by LDD and there is no hof brick wall.

                              All these sad stories about LDD and mine is up to an 80 overall... have yet to bring him to the Online wilderness but ,an does it ever sound like a daunting task to prevail with a LDD ��
                              I made pg LDD just for fun to try 3x LDD squad in park with friends. But its very obviously is the worst player to make for park/pro am because defense ratings for perimeter D is barely impactful with all the zig zag and off dribble stand shot counting as clean easy shot.
                              Last edited by Vroman; 12-05-2016, 11:22 AM.

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