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  • RichieL1991
    Rookie
    • Aug 2012
    • 61

    #1

    How a team can end the game with 1 single point

    Video Link for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGgUZTLyE0A


    I just started playing Madden 17, so I apologize if this has already been mentioned, especially since the rule change went into effect last year and should probably be in Madden 16 as well.

    Anyway with the new rule that allows a team to score 2 points by scoring a TD on defense by stopping a PAT/2-pt. conversion attempt, this allows for something called a conversion safety. A conversion safety is extremely rare, even more rare than the Chiefs Eric Berry scoring 2 points on a pick 6 by the Falcons and ultimately giving the Chiefs 29-28 victory because of that play.

    The conversion safety has happened a few times in college football, one being in a Bowl game between Kansas St. and Oregon in 2011 (I believe).

    Practically speaking, and using the Chiefs pick 6 example above, hypothetically the Falcons could have gotten a 1 point conversion safety if Eric Berry after intercepting the ball and crossing his own goal line got tackled in his own endzone by a Falcons player for a safety. In essence, this would have given the Falcons 1 point essentially being the same as kicking a PAT.

    Now here's the scenario where in the unlikely event (and I mean practically 0% chance) a team could actually have 1 single point on the scoreboard:

    Lets use the Chiefs vs Falcons again. Lets say it was the beginning of the game and the Falcons just scored the first TD going up 6-0, and now they want to go for a 2pt. conversion, to take an early 8-0 lead, but Eric Berry picks it just like in the real game. This time Eric Berry as he's getting to the other endzone for the score, runs out of breath and gets stripped from behind at the 1 yard line (think Leon Lett, Larry Fitz chasing James Harrison SuperBowls) and he fumbles the ball and Falcons player picks it up at the 1 but he couldnt stop his momentum and also gets tackled in his own endzone for safety... in this VERY CRAZY UNLIKELY event the Chiefs would score 1 single point for that conversion safety!! So there you have it... have fun with this little trivia fact during gameday, and confusing the hell out of your friends with a 6-1 final score.
  • Aggies67
    Banned
    • Jun 2011
    • 918

    #2
    Re: How a team can end the game with 1 single point

    Originally posted by RichieL1991
    Video Link for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGgUZTLyE0A


    I just started playing Madden 17, so I apologize if this has already been mentioned, especially since the rule change went into effect last year and should probably be in Madden 16 as well.

    Anyway with the new rule that allows a team to score 2 points by scoring a TD on defense by stopping a PAT/2-pt. conversion attempt, this allows for something called a conversion safety. A conversion safety is extremely rare, even more rare than the Chiefs Eric Berry scoring 2 points on a pick 6 by the Falcons and ultimately giving the Chiefs 29-28 victory because of that play.

    The conversion safety has happened a few times in college football, one being in a Bowl game between Kansas St. and Oregon in 2011 (I believe).

    Practically speaking, and using the Chiefs pick 6 example above, hypothetically the Falcons could have gotten a 1 point conversion safety if Eric Berry after intercepting the ball and crossing his own goal line got tackled in his own endzone by a Falcons player for a safety. In essence, this would have given the Falcons 1 point essentially being the same as kicking a PAT.

    Now here's the scenario where in the unlikely event (and I mean practically 0% chance) a team could actually have 1 single point on the scoreboard:

    Lets use the Chiefs vs Falcons again. Lets say it was the beginning of the game and the Falcons just scored the first TD going up 6-0, and now they want to go for a 2pt. conversion, to take an early 8-0 lead, but Eric Berry picks it just like in the real game. This time Eric Berry as he's getting to the other endzone for the score, runs out of breath and gets stripped from behind at the 1 yard line (think Leon Lett, Larry Fitz chasing James Harrison SuperBowls) and he fumbles the ball and Falcons player picks it up at the 1 but he couldnt stop his momentum and also gets tackled in his own endzone for safety... in this VERY CRAZY UNLIKELY event the Chiefs would score 1 single point for that conversion safety!! So there you have it... have fun with this little trivia fact during gameday, and confusing the hell out of your friends with a 6-1 final score.
    Hey, that's cool. Thanks!

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    • boxboy99
      MVP
      • Feb 2006
      • 2320

      #3
      Re: How a team can end the game with 1 single point

      Funny you mention this because I think about it every once in awhile. I played NCAA dynasties with friends from 1999-2014. In the PS2 days and prior a bunch of us would go to a friends house to play our games at all hours of the day and night. We were looking at the weekly scores once and there was a score where one team had only scored a single point! We were perplexed because we didn't think it was possible, so we went to the internet and found out about the conversion safety. Ha, I still think it was a bug as I doubt the conversion safety was even in the simulation engine, however I feel like we successfully reproduced a conversion safety in the game (don't 100% remember that part). I'd find it funny if someone could get it to work in Madden. Anyway, that is my conversion safety story, the time the simulation engine produced a score with 1 point!

      Ah, just watched the video, nice!
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      • oneamongthefence
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        • Apr 2009
        • 5683

        #4
        Re: How a team can end the game with 1 single point

        I was hoping to hear if there was commentary that covered that unlikely scenario. I had no idea this existed and a very cool find.

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        • RichieL1991
          Rookie
          • Aug 2012
          • 61

          #5
          Re: How a team can end the game with 1 single point

          Originally posted by boxboy99
          Funny you mention this because I think about it every once in awhile. I played NCAA dynasties with friends from 1999-2014. In the PS2 days and prior a bunch of us would go to a friends house to play our games at all hours of the day and night. We were looking at the weekly scores once and there was a score where one team had only scored a single point! We were perplexed because we didn't think it was possible, so we went to the internet and found out about the conversion safety. Ha, I still think it was a bug as I doubt the conversion safety was even in the simulation engine, however I feel like we successfully reproduced a conversion safety in the game (don't 100% remember that part). I'd find it funny if someone could get it to work in Madden. Anyway, that is my conversion safety story, the time the simulation engine produced a score with 1 point!

          Ah, just watched the video, nice!


          Wow that's hilarious!

          I probably would have saw the final score being 1 and thought it was a glitch (like when you sim in madden and a team wins by 1 point in OT- wtf??) had I not discovered it myself with a friend. Our story is, we made a created team based on his middle school who he hated at the time, and made the RB his principal with 0 speed 0 agility, etc. so they did a hb toss/pitch on the 2pt conversion attempt and the RB was so slow he couldnt catch up with the pitch and with the snow it ended up rolling all the way back for a safety and our team got 1 single point.

          Its also amazing not just the sim engine picked up, but the fact that the developers went into detail enough to include it!

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          • Dirty Turtles
            MVP
            • Feb 2010
            • 1721

            #6
            Re: How a team can end the game with 1 single point

            The good old one point safety. A friend and I were talking about this at a high school game the one day and a few days later I got one in Madden in a human vs human dynasty game to tie the game with no time left to send it to overtime. Greatest time of my life!
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            • Hooe
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2002
              • 21555

              #7
              Re: How a team can end the game with 1 single point

              I knew that this was a college football thing, but I had no idea the one point safety rule had been adopted in the NFL (turns out the NFL added the rule in 2015 along with the other PAT rule changes). Neat find!

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              • RichieL1991
                Rookie
                • Aug 2012
                • 61

                #8
                Re: How a team can end the game with 1 single point

                Originally posted by Dirty Turtles
                The good old one point safety. A friend and I were talking about this at a high school game the one day and a few days later I got one in Madden in a human vs human dynasty game to tie the game with no time left to send it to overtime. Greatest time of my life!

                Wow - how in the world did it happen? Were you going for 2pt conversion for the win? hahaha

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                • Dirty Turtles
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 1721

                  #9
                  Re: How a team can end the game with 1 single point

                  Originally posted by RichieL1991
                  Wow - how in the world did it happen? Were you going for 2pt conversion for the win? hahaha
                  Yes. It's an online CFM and the kicking meter is not very kind online. I decided it was best to go for the win. I had broken off a 75 yard TD run against prevent defense just to bring the game within one. I had to go for the win because of the issues with the kick meter and the fact that I was playing with house money at that point.

                  The ball ended up getting tipped around, he intercepted it brought it out to the 1, broke a tackle and stepped back into the end zone where I tackled him for the 1 pointer.

                  I drove right down the field for 6 in overtime to win the game. It was an amazing game.
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                  • RichieL1991
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 61

                    #10
                    Re: How a team can end the game with 1 single point

                    Originally posted by Dirty Turtles
                    Yes. It's an online CFM and the kicking meter is not very kind online. I decided it was best to go for the win. I had broken off a 75 yard TD run against prevent defense just to bring the game within one. I had to go for the win because of the issues with the kick meter and the fact that I was playing with house money at that point.

                    The ball ended up getting tipped around, he intercepted it brought it out to the 1, broke a tackle and stepped back into the end zone where I tackled him for the 1 pointer.

                    I drove right down the field for 6 in overtime to win the game. It was an amazing game.

                    Wow what a game!

                    That is basically the reason I decided to test this 1 point safety. I was goofing around in a game online vs my cousin and tried doing a fade on a 2pt conversion. His guy picked it on the 1, but it was snowing and he slipped backwards into the endzone for a safety.

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