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  • Houston
    MVP
    • May 2003
    • 4724

    #31
    Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

    I normally watch the streams on twitch using my PC and at first I was doing that this year, so I had that open then I decided why not see what it looks like on the PS4. I had both going on my PC and twitch app on the PS4. The outcome is that it definitely looks better on the PS4.
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    • Bobhead
      Pro
      • Mar 2011
      • 4944

      #32
      Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

      Does anyone know if we now have a true feedback system to let the user know that a base is being stolen? We haven't had one in the past. Sometimes the baserunner OSD would happen to still be on the screen (it isnt always there) and you'd notice that way. Sometimes the commentators would say something about it (if they weren't already in mid sentence talking about something else).

      Sometimes though, you'd get nothing at all, which has been frustrating.

      If nothing else, I'd appreciate it if someone could ask at the next twitch stream, since I'm at work during all these things.
      Last edited by Bobhead; 02-09-2017, 07:50 PM.

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      • Houston
        MVP
        • May 2003
        • 4724

        #33
        Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

        Originally posted by volsfan39
        I'm sure I'll get slammed for being negative but I think I got more out of the video vlog than this stream. It's kind of like these guys are just goofing around instead of detailing anything. What I did get out of it is that the retro mode got boring very quickly. I played all the 8 bit games years ago and although I did enjoy them at the time that time has long passed. The new spin on the ball coming off the bat is fantastic and the new animations look really good also. I think they probably wish they hadn't shown the bunting as it still has issues. I won't comment on the graphics until I see more..
        I do half to agree a little. There should have been segments for each part that was listed for today and they need to be more organized. It would have been nice if they broke the things down a little more for each section that was supposed to be discussed. Maybe talk about each part 5-10 mins at least.
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        • HypoLuxa13
          MVP
          • Feb 2007
          • 1156

          #34
          Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

          Originally posted by tessl
          It will be a major challenge to get it perfect but I'm glad they changed it. It will add a ton of variety to the game and look less scripted. One thing the dev said - I can't remember his name - the ball will react differently depending on the height and handedness of the batter even on the same hit.
          Yes, that was really cool to hear. So it sounds like a curveball at the knees will behave somewhat differently if it were hit by a tall guy, like Kris Bryant, than it will by a short guy, say Jose Altuve, because of the angle of the swing path/bat angle at the point of contact. Pretty neat.

          Originally posted by Houston
          I do half to agree a little. There should have been segments for each part that was listed for today and they need to be more organized. It would have been nice if they broke the things down a little more for each section that was supposed to be discussed. Maybe talk about each part 5-10 mins at least.
          See, Ramone is off doing something else and the whole Twitch stream gets hosed!
          Last edited by HypoLuxa13; 02-09-2017, 07:53 PM.

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          • kehlis
            Moderator
            • Jul 2008
            • 27923

            #35
            Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

            Originally posted by Steve_OS
            For those of you interested in Retro Mode, they have an 8 bit option for low-res.
            I hope it also comes with an option to have the runs accurately represented in the run column of the linescore

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            • dran1984
              MVP
              • Mar 2011
              • 1221

              #36
              Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

              Originally posted by volsfan39
              I'm sure I'll get slammed for being negative but I think I got more out of the video vlog than this stream. It's kind of like these guys are just goofing around instead of detailing anything. What I did get out of it is that the retro mode got boring very quickly. I played all the 8 bit games years ago and although I did enjoy them at the time that time has long passed. The new spin on the ball coming off the bat is fantastic and the new animations look really good also. I think they probably wish they hadn't shown the bunting as it still has issues. I won't comment on the graphics until I see more..
              Agree 100%

              They listed many things on the slides that they didn't talk about. I was really hoping for more info on the Humanity AI and how it effects in game managing decisions.

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              • TheWarmWind
                MVP
                • Apr 2015
                • 2622

                #37
                Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

                Forgot about the stream. Was to busy playing the show.

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                • PhilliesFan13
                  Banned
                  • May 2009
                  • 15677

                  #38
                  Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

                  Originally posted by dran1984
                  Agree 100%

                  They listed many things on the slides that they didn't talk about. I was really hoping for more info on the Humanity AI and how it effects in game managing decisions.
                  Seems like the streams run a lot smoother when Ramone is in the house. Do have to agree that this one was kind of all over the place.

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                  • MythicalGnome
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 271

                    #39
                    Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

                    Originally posted by Tomba
                    graphically looks the same as MLB 15 I see ZERO difference. The difference should be breathtaking I dont know why ppl swallow this game and stand for it it doesnt improve graphically graphically its hit a wall.
                    That wall will easily be overcome when they get out of that horrid PS3 renderer and its core foundations IMO. But I agree a wall is definitely being hit in this current iteration of the engine. But they do make small steps to improve it every year. Now that the PS3 is gone that will only lead to better graphics at a faster pace.

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                    • tessl
                      All Star
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5651

                      #40
                      Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

                      Originally posted by volsfan39
                      I'm sure I'll get slammed for being negative but I think I got more out of the video vlog than this stream. It's kind of like these guys are just goofing around instead of detailing anything. What I did get out of it is that the retro mode got boring very quickly. I played all the 8 bit games years ago and although I did enjoy them at the time that time has long passed. The new spin on the ball coming off the bat is fantastic and the new animations look really good also. I think they probably wish they hadn't shown the bunting as it still has issues. I won't comment on the graphics until I see more..
                      I'm not slamming anybody but they did show a lot of gameplay and new "human AI" which is what I wanted to see.

                      Could it have been done differently? Yes but I enjoyed the stream and learned a lot.
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                      • redsfan4life
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 2753

                        #41
                        Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

                        Ball physics look really good. However, if I'm being honest I am very unimpressed with these 'new' throwing animations. Bunts were still wildly successful yet again. Saw some good, some bad things.
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                        • Bobhead
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 4944

                          #42
                          Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

                          Originally posted by volsfan39
                          I'm sure I'll get slammed for being negative but I think I got more out of the video vlog than this stream. It's kind of like these guys are just goofing around instead of detailing anything. What I did get out of it is that the retro mode got boring very quickly. I played all the 8 bit games years ago and although I did enjoy them at the time that time has long passed. The new spin on the ball coming off the bat is fantastic and the new animations look really good also. I think they probably wish they hadn't shown the bunting as it still has issues. I won't comment on the graphics until I see more..
                          You raise some very valid points, but I also want to point out that there is a primacy bias in play here. You watched the vlog before the twitch stream, and nothing is ever as exciting or influential the second time around.

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                          • countryboy
                            Growing pains
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 52630

                            #43
                            MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

                            Originally posted by Tomba
                            graphically looks the same as MLB 15 I see ZERO difference. The difference should be breathtaking I dont know why ppl swallow this game and stand for it it doesnt improve graphically graphically its hit a wall.


                            Because we are ok with the graphics.

                            Graphics only carry a game so far for me. Gameplay and franchise mode are what I'm most interested in. And every year the Show improves, imo, in those two areas.




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                            • Lovesports
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 469

                              #44
                              Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
                              You ever think they aren't putting it on full display until the presentation stream? Why would they do it last and have it out on display on the very first stream?
                              Yea I don't agree here either. The biggest issue honestly has been the player models and uniforms looking boxy. I know everyone cares about different aspects but for me graphics/player models have been disgraceful. Madden and NBA2K have wayyy better player models

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                              • tnixen
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 3185

                                #45
                                Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

                                Originally posted by Sayheykid01
                                IMO, he does have a point. The game rarely looks drastically different than the streams when it comes out. I remember one year they "cracked the lighting code" right before the game went gold, and it still didn't necessarily blow people away.

                                I'm a gameplay guy, and I've been buying the show every year for the past decade, but it does bother me when people jump on anyone critiquing the graphics of the game (not just singling you out btw).

                                As far as gameplay goes, love the new spin on the ball..and some of those throwing animations looked fluid. Balls down the line are still a problem, most balls hit right down the line in real life are easily a stand up double. Looks like they're still a bang bang play this year.

                                More hit variety is always a good thing, but I actually do agree with the people harping on little graphical improvement. It's not the first year on PS4 anymore, I think they have a valid point. Here's to hoping the new grass tech looks great.
                                Yep I noticed that as well in the stream very disappointing to still not see that issue fixed

                                I wonder if it's something they can work on before the game goes gold?

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