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  • Fiddy
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    • Jul 2002
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    #31
    Re: How Could Presentation Be Improved In NHL 18

    NBA Live's arena atmosphere was pretty solid. Them having a regular season crowd, a playoff crowd, a conference finals crowd, and then a finals crowd was great.

    If they could do that somehow that would be awesome. Even when the home team takes a penalty, boo the refs etc. Or when the home team player gets tripped up, high sticked, no call, booooooooooo.

    Small things here and there would go a long ways.
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    • 13whitebread
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      • Aug 2010
      • 575

      #32
      I emulate the season I would like to see a place you can put your player If he has an injury in the real season. For instances instead of me having to banish him to the minors put him in an injury slot so it will not affect my 23 man roster. And if I am playing the season when their is a jersey update have it available in my season mode. All it looks like the winter classic is here to stay as long as the all star is so have these available during season mode. If it's in the game it's in the game. EA Sports don't just say it do it sincerely from a Sega genesis fan

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      • NEOPARADIGM
        Banned
        • Jul 2009
        • 2788

        #33
        Re: How Could Presentation Be Improved In NHL 18

        Originally posted by actionhank
        I would love for more stuff to happen "On ice". There are just so many glaring cuts in the game. It would be nice to get a bit more in terms of realistic goal celebrations, and just other various things that play out on the ice without dropping to a cut scene.

        The shoving and stuff after the play is nice, but it would be better to see guys start to skate off the ice, and also maybe have some better animations for various types of players. As it stands now, you just end up having a handful of pairs doing the exact same animations where they shove and grab each other. It would be cool to see stuff like scrums, guys pulling each other back, players talking to the refs between plays, after whistles, before faceoffs, etc.

        Everything just has a tendency to feel very canned. You score a goal, do one of two celebrations if you're me (Jump into the boards, or scrape the ice...because the others are all just goofy) and then everyone kind of follows after you, before you glide into the boards, net or other players as it plays out, then it suddenly cuts to a player or two patting you.

        Personally, I wouldn't mind more animations for just general things to break up the 5 guys skating and doing the same few things. Defenders patting their goalie, guys who are tired showing it on the ice after the whistle, players talking to each other on near miss goals, or maybe before faceoffs.

        Basically just anything on ice to kind of break up the usual guys standing around, and preferably less cuts to the close ups right after. I don't mind the camera moving, or zooming, but it can kind of take you out of things to score a goal, have you lonely player jump into the glass, then quickly cut to guys mobbing you, followed by another cut to you skating down the bench, followed by replays...
        i don't disagree with any of that, but my point was simply that if real-time 4- and 5-man celebrations is too much for whatever reason (tbf madden only rarely has more than 2-man celebrations too) then i don't see many people giving a rip if they were prerendered instead.

        yeah, it'd be great if everything was real-time, flawlessly seamless, etc. but clearly that isn't on the table right now.

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        • actionhank
          MVP
          • Jan 2010
          • 1530

          #34
          Re: How Could Presentation Be Improved In NHL 18

          Something a bit disappointing I noticed (and mentioned in the impressions thread) is that there was no fanfare over my team's first game after relocation. No big deal about our last game in the playoffs, and our first home game in the new city, and Doc and Eddie are talking about the Rangers' win streak at 1-0-0.

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          • Simple Mathematics
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            • Sep 2009
            • 1791

            #35
            Re: How Could Presentation Be Improved In NHL 18

            As far as commentary goes, I really wouldn't care if they did not have a real-life commentator in the game. I would rather have a guy who works for EA do it. This way, they could record a ton of new lines and they could constantly update it.

            I would take anyone who displays a lot of emotion in their voice to do the commentary.


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            • MDgolf
              MVP
              • Oct 2013
              • 1421

              #36
              Re: How Could Presentation Be Improved In NHL 18

              This game has some of the worst presentation ever. Playoff mode specifically. They don't even mention what game number of the series it is. I see this thread every year and they never implement any of our suggestions so why bother. Too bad because the game is playing better each year.


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              • actionhank
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                • Jan 2010
                • 1530

                #37
                Re: How Could Presentation Be Improved In NHL 18

                Originally posted by Simple Mathematics
                As far as commentary goes, I really wouldn't care if they did not have a real-life commentator in the game. I would rather have a guy who works for EA do it. This way, they could record a ton of new lines and they could constantly update it.

                I would take anyone who displays a lot of emotion in their voice to do the commentary.


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                I'd honestly be fine with that. One thing I always thought would be a nice little DLC type thing was something that FIFA had years ago, though I don't know that they still offer it. It was essentially commentary packs, but in languages not included by default. It would be cool to have "Home Team" announcer packs and presentation available to use for your home games, though that would assume they got team specific announcers to come in and record a ton of dialogue.

                But, a boy can dream about having JK and Panger calling the game someday.

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                • hawley088
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                  • Apr 2010
                  • 430

                  #38
                  Re: How Could Presentation Be Improved In NHL 18

                  real time dynamic camera instead of the same 5 cut scenes over and over

                  they usually show some cool views in the trailers, why cant they use those in the actual game

                  nhl series seriously has like no "little things" in the game anymore, what happen to the fans banging on the glass or booing when an opposing star player has the puck, etc etc

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                  • sfpxgalaxy
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                    • Aug 2014
                    • 132

                    #39
                    Re: How Could Presentation Be Improved In NHL 18

                    I would focus on sound first.
                    Commentary is just terrible.
                    Crowd sound is also mismanaged.

                    Secondly, I would work on the interface which is still way too slow and not particularly beautiful.

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                    • robinson
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                      • Jul 2012
                      • 492

                      #40
                      Re: How Could Presentation Be Improved In NHL 18

                      Have the ****ty commentary saved from previous yrs like tuners so you can choose or select randomness.


                      Drivable Zambonis (press button to go).


                      Make ice more realistic looking, get the photo (face) thing in there. Same with jerseys. It still will look 3d video game like.


                      1080p hd arena/city fly overs and more of them. Have this as a separate download so it can be on ps4 and not on disk for space.


                      Whatever was good in 2k put it in this, cut and paste.


                      Really need to feel like your carving on the ice. More ice skating sliders.


                      0-1000 for overall speed slider. The most important thing is overall speed it makes a big diff. in the gameplay.


                      More angles from arena during off play.


                      Have a section where you can walk around the rink, into the locker rooms, anywhere in rink before after game, like practice section.
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                      • scitychamps87
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1201

                        #41
                        Re: How Could Presentation Be Improved In NHL 18

                        I think for as much as the game has some realistic strong points in presentation, like the NBC overlays, playoff atmospheres, and certain stat banners, I do believe they are not using Doc Emrick to his full potential. Then again, the guy is probably hard to get in studio with a limited budget and his very limited time. I just want to hear his trademark excitement become more prominent. Doc is part of what makes hockey in America as awesome as it is.
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                        • BigBadAss33
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                          • Jul 2013
                          • 496

                          #42
                          Wow!! great ideas everyone..

                          Commentary - yup needs improving that goes without saying

                          Franchise and BAP... these are great but are missing like everyone said the little things.

                          Here is what i would love to see added to franchise Mode. -

                          1. Better/More Injuries
                          2. If a guy gets hurt during a game and is out, how come I know when he is coming back when the game is over and then check the injury report and it says pending evaluation. Is my doctor an psychic?
                          3. BLOOD - Im Sorry, its time.. Guys get cut all the time - its part of the game
                          4. Home team last change choice
                          5. Players holding out
                          6. Trade Demands
                          7. Coach firing
                          8. SCOUTING - Why can I only scout FW? Shouldn't i be able to scout EVERYONE playing in the games i see??
                          9. Growth potential system needs work.
                          10. More input from coaches in minor leagues. (Hot player, suggestions on call ups)
                          11. Better CPU Trade Logic -
                          12. NHL Today style show (league highlights ect)

                          Im sure there is a few im forgetting but its a start

                          thanks
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                          • actionhank
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 1530

                            #43
                            Re: How Could Presentation Be Improved In NHL 18

                            Originally posted by BigBadAss33
                            Wow!! great ideas everyone..

                            Commentary - yup needs improving that goes without saying

                            Franchise and BAP... these are great but are missing like everyone said the little things.

                            Here is what i would love to see added to franchise Mode. -

                            1. Better/More Injuries
                            2. If a guy gets hurt during a game and is out, how come I know when he is coming back when the game is over and then check the injury report and it says pending evaluation. Is my doctor an psychic?
                            3. BLOOD - Im Sorry, its time.. Guys get cut all the time - its part of the game
                            4. Home team last change choice
                            5. Players holding out
                            6. Trade Demands
                            7. Coach firing
                            8. SCOUTING - Why can I only scout FW? Shouldn't i be able to scout EVERYONE playing in the games i see??
                            9. Growth potential system needs work.
                            10. More input from coaches in minor leagues. (Hot player, suggestions on call ups)
                            11. Better CPU Trade Logic -
                            12. NHL Today style show (league highlights ect)

                            Im sure there is a few im forgetting but its a start

                            thanks
                            As far as blood in a sports game goes, I don't imagine you'll ever see it. If I remember right it causes them to have to change the rating on the game.

                            That said, I do like all of the other ideas. There's just no real excitement in the Franchise mode. There aren't any players demanding trades, there aren't rumors of guys hitting free agency, hell, you don't even know who is actually likely to hit free agency until they do, and even then you're pretty much stuck making one offer and seeing which team they pick after that. There's no negotiating.

                            There's so much that could be added to make the game fun. Right now the offseason is just a chore for me.

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                            • MizzouRah
                              All Star
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 8515

                              #44
                              Re: How Could Presentation Be Improved In NHL 18

                              I agree that franchise mode needs a major overhaul. The CPU AI is horrible at signing players that can make a difference. They will have 2 top starting goalies and many other issues signing players that make no sense because they have youth at that position who should be in the NHL instead of the AHL.

                              The offseason should be about stories.. like in RL where will Shattenkirk go? We need bidding and some sort of team summary report to see who went where, etc.

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                              • actionhank
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 1530

                                #45
                                Re: How Could Presentation Be Improved In NHL 18

                                Originally posted by MizzouRah
                                I agree that franchise mode needs a major overhaul. The CPU AI is horrible at signing players that can make a difference. They will have 2 top starting goalies and many other issues signing players that make no sense because they have youth at that position who should be in the NHL instead of the AHL.

                                The offseason should be about stories.. like in RL where will Shattenkirk go? We need bidding and some sort of team summary report to see who went where, etc.
                                Agreed. While I don't know the demands of creating the complex AI it would take to get GM's to act like GM's (Saying to themselves "I have X number of good Centers, I don't have any RW. I need to trade/sign RW"). That said, I'm not paid to.

                                The current state of things just makes dealing with other teams so frustrating. Teams don't deal from surplus, they don't try to move UFA's, they don't try to stockpile draft picks and prospects when they're terrible...they just all seem to do whatever random thing it is that they want.

                                It would really be nice to see teams moving out forwards for picks, being able to offer contract bonuses to help lure players to your team (which would require AI players that tried to get what they wanted, be it money, term, location, a cup, etc).

                                Another thing that I think would be great (this is getting off topic, sorry) is the ability to force trades between all teams. That way I can decide to stop the trades in game and make my own moves, or if the AI is shutting down a realistic trade, I can force it. It's my game, let me ruin it if I want to.

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