EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

[GameplayDevUFC]

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I'll clear it all up right here and now. I *also* think you'll be pleasantly surprised by UFC 3 when it comes to striking and movement. Wink Wink. Nudge nudge.

There, now a dev said it so no more NDA concerns.

[fballturkey]

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I really hope there is some sort of blitz mechanic. High risk, high reward. If I never see somebody get rocked and then just walk backward for 10 seconds because they can do that just as fast as I can walk forward it'll be too soon.

[HereticGabriel]

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I'll clear it all up right here and now. I *also* think you'll be pleasantly surprised by UFC 3 when it comes to striking and movement. Wink Wink. Nudge nudge.

There, now a dev said it so no more NDA concerns.

So head movement > distance control > block > parry? It shouldnt be a parry fest or having people walk forward holding block and parrying then throwing a free headkick or overhand. Parry shouldnt stun the attacker, only one side should be left open, should still be able to move. Leg checks need to return the damage. Cuts should have an affect, which means lowering how often they happen. And the 1-2 spam is dumb lol, combo multiplier should be lowered or removed, and only affect the initial area. Punching my head isnt going to make the head shot land harder

[GameplayDevUFC]

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So head movement > distance control > block > parry? It shouldnt be a parry fest or having people walk forward holding block and parrying then throwing a free headkick or overhand. Parry shouldnt stun the attacker, only one side should be left open, should still be able to move. Leg checks need to return the damage. Cuts should have an affect, which means lowering how often they happen. And the 1-2 spam is dumb lol, combo multiplier should be lowered or removed, and only affect the initial area. Punching my head isnt going to make the head shot land harder

Distance control vs. head movement is a tricky one to rank.

[GameplayDevUFC]

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I'd probably say Distance Control > Head Movement.

Maybe...

[Dave_S]

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I'd probably say Distance Control > Head Movement.

Maybe...

In real world mma, distance>head movement>parry>block

One of the reasons dudes like Jones are so good is distance control, him and many other fighters don't bob and weave much. Lots of the head movement I see in mma isn't as exaggerated as it is in the game.

more accurate imo would be
distance control>head movement>parry>slip strikes>block

[GameplayDevUFC]

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In real world mma, distance>head movement>parry>block

One of the reasons dudes like Jones are so good is distance control, him and many other fighters don't bob and weave much. Lots of the head movement I see in mma isn't as exaggerated as it is in the game.

more accurate imo would be
distance control>head movement>parry>slip strikes>block

Since we're trying to make a realistic game (stop laughing), I think distance management will be the primary line of defense, and play a much bigger role than in UFC 2. But there could always be gameplay issues that interfere with that desire.

Won't know for sure until the game is done.

[fishingtime]

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Since we're trying to make a realistic game (stop laughing), I think distance management will be the primary line of defense, and play a much bigger role than in UFC 2. But there could always be gameplay issues that interfere with that desire.

Won't know for sure until the game is done.

Please add the ability to push someone. This helped with people who liked to always pressure. We need a way to create distance without having to strike. I like being able to shoot, and do it that way, but it will sometimes try the full takedown. Not as fluid as I would like it.

The clinch denial animation is perfect for this.

[fballturkey]

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Since we're trying to make a realistic game (stop laughing), I think distance management will be the primary line of defense, and play a much bigger role than in UFC 2. But there could always be gameplay issues that interfere with that desire.

Won't know for sure until the game is done.

That's utterly terrifying to me because distance control is exactly what the AI is worst at and why it is so easy to beat on the hardest difficulties.

[WarMMA]

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Since we're trying to make a realistic game (stop laughing), I think distance management will be the primary line of defense, and play a much bigger role than in UFC 2. But there could always be gameplay issues that interfere with that desire.

Won't know for sure until the game is done.

I was definitely laughing lol, but in all honesty one of the biggest issues is that you guys are putting way to much emphasis on the parrying. Parrying is not a fighters first line of defense like this game would make it seem, its not that easy to execute and it should be risk/reward. It also shouldn't "freeze" the opponent...just leave him unable to put his guard up right away. Like you guys were talking about, the first lines of defense irl is movement (or distance control) and head movement.

[WarMMA]

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Please add the ability to push someone. This helped with people who liked to always pressure. We need a way to create distance without having to strike. I like being able to shoot, and do it that way, but it will sometimes try the full takedown. Not as fluid as I would like it.

The clinch denial animation is perfect for this.

Yh this would be good to have. I liked to use this in UD3 against ppl who liked to pressure and walk right up to you holding block.

[HereticGabriel]

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Hrm.. meant punching my body isnt going to make the head shot harder, but ya...

Main emphasis should be movement and distance, parry shouldnt be the go to like it is. Right now everything is essentially focused on parry, free counter, plus perks to increase damage and counter time. When you get a fight where parry isnt used, its so much more realistic and sim. You have distance control, timing shots, slipping and countering, bobbing and weaving. It flows and looks so much better than the 'parry a jab, throw a headkick/overhand or spam 1-2s'

Would absolutely love to see it move away from parry, as well as add the other things mentioned when it comes to stand up. You did a great job with the ground GPD, so hoping you do wonders with the stand up too

[HereticGabriel]

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Please add the ability to push someone. This helped with people who liked to always pressure. We need a way to create distance without having to strike. I like being able to shoot, and do it that way, but it will sometimes try the full takedown. Not as fluid as I would like it.

The clinch denial animation is perfect for this.

Pushing would be nice for those that stand an inch from you blocking and trying to parry. Teep kicks should also push people away, like the body hit stun action that sometimes happens. Teeps are meant to push and keep distance, this game they're basically useless

[Dave_S]

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head movement and slipping strikes are different things.

[WarMMA]

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Pushing would be nice for those that stand an inch from you blocking and trying to parry. Teep kicks should also push people away, like the body hit stun action that sometimes happens. Teeps are meant to push and keep distance, this game they're basically useless

Yup this is another thing that annoys me...the teeps. They litterally do nothing except leave you open for your opponent to get free strikes.