EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

[aholbert32]

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Yeah but that's real life. If were being honest a few people online play true to life and i mean that in a good way and in a bad way. There are ALOT and i mean ALOT more fights that should have ended in a draw in the game then there would be in real life.

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Why do you say that?

[aholbert32]

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You can get a draw on UFC 2. It happens when Bruce says "winner by split/majority dec is _____.. They key is that Bruce doesn't say a score (30-27 x3 ) if there is no score announced then it's a draw! Although they didn't put draws in the game so the game picks a RANDOM winner. I've ran about 50 test to try and find out how it picks a winner but it really is luck of the draw.


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I thought this too but the devs confirmed that this isnt true. What you are seeing is a random audio bug.

[THE_GAMER_205]

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Yeah but that's real life. If were being honest a few people online play true to life and i mean that in a good way and in a bad way. There are ALOT and i mean ALOT more fights that should have ended in a draw in the game then there would be in real life.

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You are correct man, I try to play as close to real life as possible. I don't parry, jump on people after a silly slip, don't throw magic combos. I rarely run into guys that play the game like me. I'm almost at D8 and 90% are jab straight combo multiplyer hunting people.


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[TreJayMMA]

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Why do you say that?

Because like you said, draws dont happen that much in real life, but the difference is is that the huge majority of the people who play the game
doesn't play like how people fight in real life. This means that there are a lot more close fights that should go to a draw in an online fight compared to real life

[aholbert32]

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Because like you said, draws dont happen that much in real life, but the difference is is that the huge majority of the people who play the game
doesn't play like how people fight in real life. This means that there are a lot more close fights that should go to a draw in an online fight compared to real life

I dont necessarily agree with that. I'd love to see the stats but I'd argue that the percentage of KOs and Subs are way higher in the game than in real life. I know thats the case offline. Less decisions equal less chances for draws.

[TreJayMMA]

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I dont necessarily agree with that. I'd love to see the stats but I'd argue that the percentage of KOs and Subs are way higher in the game than in real life. I know thats the case offline. Less decisions equal less chances for draws.

Agree to disagree

[Haz____]

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Just the sheer amount of fights that occur in this game means youll see more draws.

How many fights happen a year in the UFC?

There's probably 100 times that many fights online in half a day in the game.

Even at 1% draws. That's a ****load of draws.






Also i'm confused. You said mechanically draws are in the game, as well as 10/8 rounds. You say the devs could make animations and audio for draws, or they could make a randomizer, and based on time, the devs went with a randomizer... Then you say draws are just an "audio bug"? You're confusing me. Are they there, or not?

[aholbert32]

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Just the sheer amount of fights that occur in this game means youll see more draws.

How many fights happen a year in the UFC?

There's probably 100 times that many fights online in half a day in the game.

Even at 1% draws. That's a ****load of draws.






Also i'm confused. You said mechanically draws are in the game, as well as 10/8 rounds. You say the devs could make animations and audio for draws, or they could make a randomizer, and based on time, the devs went with a randomizer... Then you say draws are just an "audio bug"? You're confusing me. Are they there, or not?

You are talking about two different things:

1) You and Gamer 205 said that when Buffer doesnt announce the score in a split or unanimous decision that means that the fight was a draw. I thought the same thing too a while back and I asked the devs. They confirmed that this WASNT the case and that it did not indicate that it was a draw. I was shocked. It was just an issue with the audio.

2) Draws are technically in the game. The judges are able to award 10-8 rounds. When a draw occurs, the game randomly selects a winner. Its all done on the backend so you have no idea that it was a draw.

[Haz____]

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You are talking about two different things:

1) You and Gamer 205 said that when Buffer doesnt announce the score in a split or unanimous decision that means that the fight was a draw. I thought the same thing too a while back and I asked the devs. They confirmed that this WASNT the case and that it did not indicate that it was a draw. I was shocked. It was just an issue with the audio.

2) Draws are technically in the game. The judges are able to award 10-8 rounds. When a draw occurs, the game randomly selects a winner. Its all done on the backend so you have no idea that it was a draw.

So it's just an incredible coincidence every single time Buffer announces a winner without a score, it just happened to be a super close fight, with close stats?


My god, making it competely behind the scenes makes things even worse. Winning and losing fights you didn't win or lose, and you don't even know.

I don't see how anyone can think this isn't an issue? Especially in hyper competitive top tier Ranked matches?

[aholbert32]

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So it's just an incredible coincidence every single time Buffer announces a winner without a score, it just happened to be a super close fight, with close stats?


My god, making it competely behind the scenes makes things even worse. Winning and losing fights you didn't win or lose, and you don't even know.

I don't see how anyone can think this isn't an issue? Especially in hyper competitive top tier Ranked matches?

I'm just telling you what I was told. I even checked the chat to confirm that I didnt misread it and it confirmed what I was told. I disagree that it only occurs in super close fights. I had one occur this weekend against the CPU in a clear 30-27 loss by me.

I think its an issue but honestly how many people have you heard complain about this? The majority of people who complain about it here (including me) are most are sim/offline players. I think I've seen maybe one or two threads here and on the old site. Really nothing on Reddit. Most of the online players dont seem to care.

When you are trying to add new features and fix issues with the game, you have to prioritize and if the community isnt clamoring for, it falls down the list.

[TheRizzzle]

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I dont necessarily agree with that. I'd love to see the stats but I'd argue that the percentage of KOs and Subs are way higher in the game than in real life. I know thats the case offline. Less decisions equal less chances for draws.

This is definitely a gripe of mine. Decisions are way more prevelant in real life.

I'm sure some would make the argument that in order to allow more decisions to happen in the game would create a scenario where people will walk through punches even more.

The fact of the matter is, a small number of fighters have consistent fight ending punching power in real life and that is not reflected in the game.



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[kevinmastah]

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In real life you have 4 or 5 ufc / fight night cards a month.
15 matches a card. So 5x15= 75 ufc fights a month.
In the game you have way over 75 matches a month.
So there should be more draws in the game then real life.
But the way the scoring/judges are right now is not correct.
I have over 8000 fights. 0 draws?!?
Ofcourse I want to win my fights.
But if its a draw, its a draw.

[fballturkey]

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When you are trying to add new features and fix issues with the game, you have to prioritize and if the community isnt clamoring for, it falls down the list.

I guess what it boils down to is I don't consider a basic facet of a sport to be a feature, I consider it to be a prerequisite to having a complete sports game.

If nobody was asking for ground rule doubles in an MLB game and they decided not to put them in there because it hardly ever happens and just have the ball bounce off an invisible wall instead I would consider that an incomplete game.

They've left one of three potential outcomes to a fight (other than NC which I get being left out) out of the game. That's not acceptable no matter how few people are asking for it. If it's not in 3 then that's a huge black mark to me against the game.

[fballturkey]

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Come on man. Thats not an appropriate comparison. Thats splitting hairs. I'm not talking about kinds of draws. I'm talking about draws period. Also, EVERYBODY would complain if non-choke submissions werent in the game. As Skynet stated and I've seen from certain players, EVERYBODY doesnt want or care that draws are in the game.

Even if you add No Contests, Its still 1% of the time. I want them in. You want them in. But lets not act as they are "must haves" and on the level of actual submission moves.

i think joint vs choke submissions is a decent enough distinction that it's an interesting comparison but yeah it isn't totally fair. We had a bizarrely low year for joint submissions, the only reason that stat came to mine was they had mentioned on a CME in like June that there hadn't been one yet that year.

I do think draws are a must have but no they aren't on the level of submission moves, but if I had to pick I would choose draws over us getting some new submission move.

[Trillz]

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This is definitely a gripe of mine. Decisions are way more prevelant in real life.

I'm sure some would make the argument that in order to allow more decisions to happen in the game would create a scenario where people will walk through punches even more.

The fact of the matter is, a small number of fighters have consistent fight ending punching power in real life and that is not reflected in the game.



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i dont know in this game, two equally matched players tend to go to decision. its only if someone is outmatched they get blasted out which happens in real life.