One for the Equalizer isn't real crowd.

[isdatyt]

So I'm trying to make my way back down some seeds to get the rewards I missed since I've been stuck in Diamond league for ages. Also the higher leagues feel so flukey like it doesn't matter how you play it's just about who has the most Badged up guy and even when I do win, it's more stressful than fun. So I autofill a bronze lineup and I plan on pausing until the clock runs out. I get bored and decide, I'll play this guy.

He had Amethyst Harden, Amethyst Kobe, Ruby Melo, Ruby Bosh, Amethyst Gobert.

I got Brian Roberts, Ian Clark, Mo Harkless, Marquise Chriss, Roy Hibbert. All 69 OVR.

What happened next was absurd. I killed this guy almost the whole game . I didn't do anything extraordinary on the sticks (None of my players can even speed boost) I didn't make a bunch of 3's (Only one guy can shoot). I just made crazy shots and got every foul call while the exact opposite happened for him. I'm dominating with Chriss like he's Hakeem Olajuwan. Ian Clark finishing with up and under finger rolls it was absurd. Hibbert looked like 2012 all over again. He didn't score a lot but he abused Gobert and on the other end it was completely backwards. He taking contested shots, he just couldn't knock them down. Harden missed at least 10 total WIDE open looks because Roberts was always 6 miles out of the picture. He even had a bunch of those Deep Shooters 2 rubies with ally the badges. Still missing easy looks. The only reason I lost was because Bosh got a rebound and threw down a dunk that put him up 2 and I wasn't about to play for OT with this awful squad. Unfortunately Clark, my best shooter only has a B- rating lol. I also destroyed him on the boards and in the paint despite these guys all being shorter with literally no badges.

And I know you guys are a "Pics or it didn't happen" bunch so here you go.





Pics not showing for some reason. Should be an album HERE.

[Hustle Westbrook]

Re: One for the Equalizer isn't real crowd.

29 threes? Looks like you ran into a scrub.

[isdatyt]

Re: One for the Equalizer isn't real crowd.

29 threes? Looks like you ran into a scrub.

They were literally WIDE OPEN. Like Harden would come down the court and Roberts would be in the crowd. Or his free lance would get somebody completely free and they'd still miss. It was crazy.

And even if he was a scrub, certain things aren't in human control. My rebounding advantage, the crazy shots I was making. He couldn't get any calls. I was getting steals with Hibbert. These are things that just shouldn't happen. It's not fair to people who work for their teams to make their players suck for no reason other than to appease somebody who can't get better players. The next game I played, the guy had all Amy & Diamonds in his starting lineup. I got up by 14 and he quit in the second. Same exact thing, I wish I could have screenshot it.

[Idapapi79]

Re: One for the Equalizer isn't real crowd.

Up until 2 days ago I was one of the "equalizer is real croud" but after the last 2 games I played im a believer.


2 night ago, im 7-0 on my 2nd prestige in amethyst playing a guy with a decent but not great team. I'm up 22-4 with about a min left in the 1st quarter. I take my foot off the gas so he don't quit and I get the loss, but im still up 18 after the 1st. The next 2 quarters was unreal. I couldn't hit any WIDE OPEN shots, my players all of a sudden forgot how to play def, but when I saw the trajectory on the ball change in mid air on one of his shots , it made me a believer. He ended up coming back and eventually took the lead in the 4th. I ended up winning the game but it should not off even been close.

[Idapapi79]

Re: One for the Equalizer isn't real crowd.

Last night I'm now 8-0 going for the amethyst token playing a guy with a Ruby/ammy starting 5 and sapphire bench. I didn't jump out to a huge lead but same thing happen. My guys starting missing wide open shots, layups ect. I have never missed a diamond Rose to diamond Howard ally oop when Howard has a clear lane but those passes were going out of bounds.


If I even attempted to play D my guys were getting called for fouls even after I changed by D from physical to neutral. My guys would get mugged going up for shots a no call. There was even a play were he missed a shot, my ammy Towns is about to jump and grab the rebound but for some reason at the last min he choses not to jump and he grabs the off rebound.


Now I'm not the best at the game and ive taken my fair share of 20-30 point losses but this was ridiculous. I ended up rage quitting for the 1st time.

[GrimaceZ7]

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but when I saw the trajectory on the ball change in mid air on one of his shots , it made me a believer.

The non-believer arguments all fall apart when stuff like that happens. It's happened to me countless times. There's no other explanation for that nonsense.

[Hustle Westbrook]

Re: One for the Equalizer isn't real crowd.

They were literally WIDE OPEN. Like Harden would come down the court and Roberts would be in the crowd. Or his free lance would get somebody completely free and they'd still miss. It was crazy.

And even if he was a scrub, certain things aren't in human control. My rebounding advantage, the crazy shots I was making. He couldn't get any calls. I was getting steals with Hibbert. These are things that just shouldn't happen. It's not fair to people who work for their teams to make their players suck for no reason other than to appease somebody who can't get better players. The next game I played, the guy had all Amy & Diamonds in his starting lineup. I got up by 14 and he quit in the second. Same exact thing, I wish I could have screenshot it.

I'd love to see some video because looking at the box score I see he took 21 shots with Harden, 13 from three. Just by looking at the box score I get the feeling that he was one of those players that would turbo down court with Harden after an inbound jacking up shots.

Your rebounding advantage was easily in your control. He took terrible shots. He beat you on the offensive glass but you beat him on the defensive glass because missed a ton of shots so there were more rebound opportunities for you.
He took 13 more shots than you as well.

Of course he couldn't get any calls. He was jacking threes all game. Over half his shots were threes. I also noticed that he had twice as many steals as you. 10 steals, 11 fouls. Most likely he was spamming the steal button. No? Since he was spamming the steal button he was most likely in the penalty which lead to you going to the free throw line.

So on one end of the floor he was taking awful threes and on the other end he's sending you to the free throw line for easy buckets and getting his players out of a rhythm.

I'm not seeing any convincing evidence for an equalizer here.

The non-believer arguments all fall apart when stuff like that happens. It's happened to me countless times. There's no other explanation for that nonsense.

It's lag.

This is a by-product of latency online. The flight of the ball is determined by how you release the shot (e.g. very late releases miss short vs. very early releases miss long). When there's lag, the information for how the ball should behave on a given shot might come through after the ball is already in flight so it needs to correct itself in mid-air to matchup with the user's original input.

[Scramz718]

Re: One for the Equalizer isn't real crowd.

The non-believer arguments all fall apart when stuff like that happens. It's happened to me countless times. There's no other explanation for that nonsense.

That also happens with balanced teams or for the player with the worst team. Most importantly it happens in other modes. Can't take that as evidence to support the equalizer theory.

[Hustle Westbrook]

Re: One for the Equalizer isn't real crowd.

That also happens with balanced teams or for the player with the worst team. Most importantly it happens in other modes. Can't take that as evidence to support the equalizer theory.

Yeah, that's happened to me a million times in Play Now Online.

[GrimaceZ7]

Re: One for the Equalizer isn't real crowd.

It's lag.

Yeah, because lag is such a huge problem in offline games.

[GrimaceZ7]

Re: One for the Equalizer isn't real crowd.

That also happens with balanced teams or for the player with the worst team. Most importantly it happens in other modes. Can't take that as evidence to support the equalizer theory.

I have never seen it happen for the worse team. I have never seen it happen to the trailing team in a game regardless of which of them has the stronger lineup. The fact that it's seen in other game modes is completely meaningless. I don't think anyone is making the argument that the Equalizer is only an MTO thing. People in Park complain about it all the time too. I see it in offline games all the time.

[Hustle Westbrook]

Re: One for the Equalizer isn't real crowd.

Yeah, because lag is such a huge problem in offline games.

We use the same technique to launch the ball offline so I could see it happening there as well. Should be extremely rare though and probably only on very late releases.

Straight out of the devs mouth. The game isn't changing shots mid-air because your being "equalized" lol.

[landman2069]

Re: One for the Equalizer isn't real crowd.

Straight out of the devs mouth. The game isn't changing shots mid-air because your being "equalized" lol.

It is if you believe in it. Just like the people who believe in Bigfoot or any other of the things that no one can ever prove exist but people swear it is real.


I'm almost as sick of hearing about equalizer in every other thread as I am facing 5out turbo steal spamming cheesers online. Can't we give this a rest and stop with all of it. If you believe in it great, but quit posting about it to justify the results of gameplay.

[Fakename22]

Re: One for the Equalizer isn't real crowd.

Its not real. Its just people who arent as good as yall think yall are. Just because you have god squads shouldnt gurantee you a win.

[isdatyt]

Re: One for the Equalizer isn't real crowd.

Its not real. Its just people who arent as good as yall think yall are. Just because you have god squads shouldnt gurantee you a win.

It's so weird that y'all either cannot read or decide what you're going to say before you get here. I don't complain about losses. I literally started this thread saying that I should have lost worse than I did. I'm literally talking about how I'm not good enough to lose by 2 points with an all bronze lineup. I'm the beneficiary here and I don't enjoy it. Nothing about this game felt good. I was constantly able to make plays I shouldn't have been able to make while my opponent couldn't buy a bucket with way better players and literally no defense at times. I felt dirty the whole game. I've never been on the opposite side of equalizer, my team isn't that good. but I know I'd be raging if I was. If I couldn't make a wide open shot with the front runner for MVP while I got toasted on the other end by Marquise Chriss who isn't even good enough to start on one of the worst teams in the league, I'd feel cheated. Nobody is saying that the game should be pay to win but you should be getting accurate value out of your cards. James Harden would have a career night if Brian Roberts tried to guard him. Rudy Gobert was getting outrebounded by one of the worst centers in the game. Things like this shouldn't be happening.