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  • Hammerhunker
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 3007

    #1

    Is there hope for me?

    Each video soccer year for me turns out pretty much the same way, rage quitting the game out of frustration because I suck so bad.

    I go through the trainings, I play a ton of games, yet still I cannot stop my opponent from prancing through my ranks and pelt whatever keeper with up to 20 shot per game (I play 10-minute halves). On the other side, I cannot ever get in more than 2-5 shots per game.

    Is there something I can do or realize something I'm missing, or should I just accept the fact I suck and just move on and quit bothering people? Thanks.
  • Introspectah
    Pro
    • Sep 2014
    • 328

    #2
    Re: Is there hope for me?

    Originally posted by Hammerhunker
    Each video soccer year for me turns out pretty much the same way, rage quitting the game out of frustration because I suck so bad.

    I go through the trainings, I play a ton of games, yet still I cannot stop my opponent from prancing through my ranks and pelt whatever keeper with up to 20 shot per game (I play 10-minute halves). On the other side, I cannot ever get in more than 2-5 shots per game.

    Is there something I can do or realize something I'm missing, or should I just accept the fact I suck and just move on and quit bothering people? Thanks.
    Once i had been going through a period of comparable strife, the way i decided to improve my gameplay was to analyze football games, preferrably in a competition where the defensive organization is prioritized, for that's the first thing a player needs to get right if he wants to be taken seriously by the CPU.

    Also due to the fact that getting your defense right is much more difficult than being offensively hazardous.

    So if you find your self unable to perform [as realistically] as you'd want to, the key is to study how professionals behave.

    It took me a while before i became able to implement the knowledge i'd gathered through studious observation & analysis, but after a while i started to get the hang of it, and began to perform much more similarly to how actual players tend to peform in the situations i happened to find my self in.

    So what do you think?

    Or perhaps you're not someone who enjoys watching football?

    Then you're flucked, and there's indeed no hope for you. he he

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    • JimmyTheMeatball
      Rookie
      • Oct 2014
      • 236

      #3
      Re: Is there hope for me?

      Originally posted by Introspectah
      where the defensive organization is prioritized, for that's the first thing a player needs to get right if he wants to be taken seriously by the CPU.

      Also due to the fact that getting your defense right is much more difficult than being offensively hazardous.
      I agree wholeheartedly.

      Keeping your shape on defense is the absolute key. Take it easy with the pressing (if you are) and rely on your teams shape. Once you get stretched out of position, the cpu is going to finish you. If you are using legacy defending then use the secondary press sparingly.

      Keep your shape...Keep your shape...Keep your shape...Trust in your shape.

      Play 15 min halves if you can. You wont feel rushed to make risky attacks because you are rushed for time. Try to retain more possession and don't give the ball away cheaply.

      Sprint less in both attack and defense. Players make poor passes and shots when sprinting on offense, and you will consistently overrun your opponent when sprinting in defense. Also practice using the 'hold off' controls in order to buy time to find an open teamate.

      Try the OS community sliders too. They have made big improvements to teammate positioning and reactions with their current set.

      Or you could do what I do, which is regularly ignore all of my own advice, chase the ball like a rabid dog, and just enjoy getting punched in the face nearly every match!
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      • Introspectah
        Pro
        • Sep 2014
        • 328

        #4
        Re: Is there hope for me?

        Originally posted by JimmyTheMeatball
        Or you could do what I do, which is regularly ignore all of my own advice, chase the ball like a rabid dog, and just enjoy getting punched in the face nearly every match!

        Haha, good one.

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        • JoshC1977
          All Star
          • Dec 2010
          • 11564

          #5
          Re: Is there hope for me?

          Originally posted by Hammerhunker
          Each video soccer year for me turns out pretty much the same way, rage quitting the game out of frustration because I suck so bad.

          I go through the trainings, I play a ton of games, yet still I cannot stop my opponent from prancing through my ranks and pelt whatever keeper with up to 20 shot per game (I play 10-minute halves). On the other side, I cannot ever get in more than 2-5 shots per game.

          Is there something I can do or realize something I'm missing, or should I just accept the fact I suck and just move on and quit bothering people? Thanks.
          I'm sorta in a similar boat, but maybe not quite as extreme. The OS community sliders can help a fair bit in terms of positioning, which helps.

          Also, I think legacy defending is the way to go too. As jimmy said, trust your shape....play solid positional defense, focus on cutting off passing angles (instead of repossessing the ball as quick as possible) and make only moderate use of secondary pressure. If you try to play this like hockey, it is going to be a painful experience.

          Longer half length so you don't feel rushed is another solid suggestion.
          Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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          • mjfron
            Just started!
            • Mar 2017
            • 4

            #6
            Re: Is there hope for me?

            I feel with longer half times I just give up more goals myself! I can get through the first half without conceding but I can't hold them off in the 2nd.

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            • Hammerhunker
              MVP
              • Mar 2003
              • 3007

              #7
              Re: Is there hope for me?

              Originally posted by Introspectah
              Once i had been going through a period of comparable strife, the way i decided to improve my gameplay was to analyze football games, preferrably in a competition where the defensive organization is prioritized, for that's the first thing a player needs to get right if he wants to be taken seriously by the CPU.

              Also due to the fact that getting your defense right is much more difficult than being offensively hazardous.

              So if you find your self unable to perform [as realistically] as you'd want to, the key is to study how professionals behave.

              It took me a while before i became able to implement the knowledge i'd gathered through studious observation & analysis, but after a while i started to get the hang of it, and began to perform much more similarly to how actual players tend to peform in the situations i happened to find my self in.

              So what do you think?

              Or perhaps you're not someone who enjoys watching football?

              Then you're flucked, and there's indeed no hope for you. he he
              I don't think I'm flucked, I love watching football. I am a man on island when it comes to watching but I do in fact analyze games. On defense I am not always the man on the ball. By default I will take the player assigned and play his assigned area and responsibility. I just hate watching my cpu teammates position themselves pathetically and allow a dribbler to undress them. Like I said, I am a novice but willing to learn.

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              • Hammerhunker
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 3007

                #8
                Re: Is there hope for me?

                Solid advice, thank you Josh, Intro, and Jimmy. The good thing about all of this is that I love playing the game regardless; isn't that what's all about? And I like to get punched in the face too, which apparently isn't the way to go. My defensive approach is like watching the fat kid on the playground playing keep away.

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                • JimmyTheMeatball
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 236

                  #9
                  Re: Is there hope for me?

                  I'm so pumped!
                  I've gone from losing 4-0/3-0 to losing 3-1/2-1!
                  Weee! Look at me! I'm turning this rig around, and flooring it back to Winsville!
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                  • JimmyTheMeatball
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 236

                    #10
                    Re: Is there hope for me?

                    Originally posted by Hammerhunker
                    My defensive approach is like watching the fat kid on the playground playing keep away.
                    As a former fat kid on the playground, I'll give you this advice:
                    When you do catch them, make sure you kill them.
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                    • Introspectah
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 328

                      #11
                      Re: Is there hope for me?

                      Originally posted by Hammerhunker
                      The good thing about all of this is that I love playing the game regardless; isn't that what's all about? And I like to get punched in the face too, which apparently isn't the way to go.
                      That's a good thing in deed.

                      You can go far with that attitude.

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                      • Hammerhunker
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 3007

                        #12
                        Re: Is there hope for me?

                        Originally posted by JimmyTheMeatball
                        As a former fat kid on the playground, I'll give you this advice:
                        When you do catch them, make sure you kill them.
                        Coming from a former fat kid too

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                        • Hammerhunker
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 3007

                          #13
                          Re: Is there hope for me?

                          Originally posted by Introspectah
                          That's a good thing in deed.

                          You can go far with that attitude.
                          I am an ancient gamer. When you grow up thinking your Atari 2600, or Coleco Mr. Quarterback were gifts from the Gods, you learn to accept some deficiencies. I marvel at how great this game plays, bottomline.

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                          • SACanuckinOz
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2017
                            • 13

                            #14
                            Re: Is there hope for me?

                            Hi. Just some things that made (make) this game great to play for me.
                            This all refers to career mode, although some are applicable to 1 vs 1 or maybe even FUT (don't play that so can't really comment)

                            1. I found that the side view when playing as the whole team is very unrealistic, IF you think of yourself as a player. So, I 'locked on to player' my CAM/CM/or even defender, and play as that player. Best is a midfielder, as it allows you to start dictating the passing and distribution of the ball. It also lets the skills of the players happen (as the AI is much better than us in making skill moves happen). It also lets the view change dynamically as you view the ball, like it would if you were playing in the game. Made all the difference to me, as I mainly struggled to switch effectively from player to player when trying to play as the whole team.

                            2. If you do prefer to play as the whole team, I found that you SHOULD let the the AI handle defending. It is better than you/me can ever be. It knows the code. Once your player has got control of the ball, then take control and start passing the ball. I find that this version of FIFA is best if you focus on quick passing upfield to some fast runners, and shooting from the side. This way you frequently get a rebound, and a team member on the far side of goal frequently taps in for an easy goal

                            Anyway, that is what worked for me, and I play the hardest mode (legendary), with CTT (Team Tactics) programmed in, sliders set as recommended here.

                            My win ratio in career mode is >95% with this style

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                            • KeepScore
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 9

                              #15
                              Re: Is there hope for me?

                              Yeah practice keeping the ball, not needlessly giving it away and playing the 'hollywood pass'. Frustrate your opponent and look to pass to players that are in space and slowly work your way up the field and into the game.

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