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  • TheGame8544
    MVP
    • Jul 2003
    • 1656

    #1

    2017 OSFM Hybrid

    Another year, and another version of the OSFM Hybrid!

    First, a special thanks to those that contributed to the project. This couldn't have been done without each and everyone of them: Willard76, bobloblah1980, Mizzou24, redsoxfan31, Rovert22044, redsfan4life and patsen29.

    Also, it must be said none of this happens with Ridin and the OSFM team. Those guys continue to put out an excellent roster every single year, and we really appreciate them allowing us to use their roster as a base. You can find their thread here: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-0-v2-5-a.html

    Second, this is an on-going project. If you find something you think is an error, and please look at the player's stats before stating you think the player is incorrectly rated, then please share. It helps the project. As for the roster itself, here is what to expect:

    V1 will include:

    - Full 100% re-rate
    - Opening Day rosters
    - Pitch edits with special thanks to MBMavs
    - Missing AAA players added (as well as some AA)
    - Face edits
    - Stance/Motion edits
    - Potential edits
    - Contract edits

    V2 and beyond will include:

    - Updated transactions
    - Equipment edits
    - Re-rates where needed
    - Hitting tendencies

    You can download the roster under the PSN CrapInMyShoe

    Lastly, if you like this roster, please give it a thumbs up and 5 stars on the thread. It helps with visibility for the roster.

    Enjoy!
    Last edited by TheGame8544; 05-30-2017, 01:52 PM. Reason: Roster is in the vault!
  • TheGame8544
    MVP
    • Jul 2003
    • 1656

    #2
    Re: 2017 OSFM Hybrid

    OSFM is almost here! Getting close for Hybrid to begin cranking out the best ratings for MLB the Show you are going to find anywhere. Full minor league re-rates as well!
    Last edited by TheGame8544; 04-06-2017, 12:48 PM.

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    • redsoxfan31
      MVP
      • Nov 2013
      • 1047

      #3
      Re: 2017 OSFM Hybrid

      Happy to be helping out on this great project again! Looking forward to working with everyone, happy to see Houston and rovert are brining their great talents from their own roster projects to the Hybrid set this year. It's going to be a good year for OSFM and Hybrid!
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      • WaitTilNextYear
        Go Cubs Go
        • Mar 2013
        • 16830

        #4
        Re: 2017 OSFM Hybrid

        Originally posted by TheGame8544
        First matter that needs to be discussed, and we have a good bit to do so, is whether we want to work with multiple files. If I understand it correctly, and bobloblah and Willard if possible please chime in with more details for everyone else, last year the Hybrid team ran with multiple files. Each editor would work on certain teams at their own pace and then a master file was used to import those updated players into the base file. Am I understanding that correctly?
        Yes and no. Multiple editors can do edits on created players within multiple roster versions and import all the different edits later into a single master copy because CAPS are import/exportable. This won't work when adjusting real SCEA players (not importable/exportable). When you're working on the real SCEA players, that needs to be done on the master copy. Also keep in mind that edits on the master copy need to be carefully controlled--if a SCEA player is edited to lose a certain set of positions, for example, that's an irreversible error.

        A key to streamlining your process would be including a change log and/or sign out spreadsheet/doc so editors know what other people are doing. That way you avoid duplication and confusion. This very explicit process helped us onboard some new editors last year (bobloblah1980 among them) without our systems and processes breaking down (Willard, teeds, and myself got to the point where it was mostly telepathic as to what each other were doing editswise--that takes time to develop).
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        • TheGame8544
          MVP
          • Jul 2003
          • 1656

          #5
          Re: 2017 OSFM Hybrid

          Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
          Yes and no. Multiple editors can do edits on created players within multiple roster versions and import all the different edits later into a single master copy because CAPS are import/exportable. This won't work when adjusting real SCEA players (not importable/exportable). When you're working on the real SCEA players, that needs to be done on the master copy. Also keep in mind that edits on the master copy need to be carefully controlled--if a SCEA player is edited to lose a certain set of positions, for example, that's an irreversible error.

          A key to streamlining your process would be including a change log and/or sign out spreadsheet/doc so editors know what other people are doing. That way you avoid duplication and confusion. This very explicit process helped us onboard some new editors last year (bobloblah1980 among them) without our systems and processes breaking down (Willard, teeds, and myself got to the point where it was mostly telepathic as to what each other were doing editswise--that takes time to develop).


          Thanks WTNY! Really appreciate the detailed explanation. That makes much more sense now.

          Did you really find it enough of a time saver to edit CAPs on a different file? I guess it could be the way to do all the minor league players, but then a ton of effort is involved with exporting/importing all those players into the master.

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          • bobloblah1980
            Rookie
            • Oct 2010
            • 459

            #6
            Re: 2017 OSFM Hybrid

            Originally posted by TheGame8544
            Thanks WTNY! Really appreciate the detailed explanation. That makes much more sense now.

            Did you really find it enough of a time saver to edit CAPs on a different file? I guess it could be the way to do all the minor league players, but then a ton of effort is involved with exporting/importing all those players into the master.
            That was what I was trying go explain to you in our pm's Team. Guess I didn't explain well enough. Lol
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            • bobloblah1980
              Rookie
              • Oct 2010
              • 459

              #7
              Re: 2017 OSFM Hybrid

              I will put it out here for everyone to read and then you all can decide the route you want to go. I will do either set up. If we have 5+ guys the split roster editing will be a quicker process until the importing has to start.
              4 or less 1 roster will work just fine
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              • WaitTilNextYear
                Go Cubs Go
                • Mar 2013
                • 16830

                #8
                Re: 2017 OSFM Hybrid

                Originally posted by TheGame8544
                Thanks WTNY! Really appreciate the detailed explanation. That makes much more sense now.

                Did you really find it enough of a time saver to edit CAPs on a different file? I guess it could be the way to do all the minor league players, but then a ton of effort is involved with exporting/importing all those players into the master.
                That all depends on how much time you save by working with multiple copies vs how much time you'd spend re-importing that work from the different pieces.

                When we did the Hybrid in the past, we basically turned OSFM inside out and revamped almost everything about the minor league players. As you might imagine, that process was much more time-consuming than importing them back in so it made sense for us to do it that way. We gained a lot of time by spreading the work out over a few different people (especially with the face edits) and re-importing it all later. In your case it depends on what all you hope to accomplish and how many capable hands you have available to task with what. If you guys don't plan on editing the OSFM minor league players very much, then it might not make sense for you to do it the way we did.
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                • bobloblah1980
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 459

                  #9
                  Re: 2017 OSFM Hybrid

                  To the people listed bt Team I will be pm'ing you this weekend most likely Friday. to set up our discussion group

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                  • huskerfan4life
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                    • Jul 2007
                    • 926

                    #10
                    Re: 2017 OSFM Hybrid

                    will you be posting updates throughout the process
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                    • Councilmann_Jamm
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 745

                      #11
                      Re: 2017 OSFM Hybrid

                      Will you guys be waiting the minor league player ratings?

                      I know the calculator has minor league players rated.

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                      • TheGame8544
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 1656

                        #12
                        Re: 2017 OSFM Hybrid

                        Yes to both questions. With OSFM around the corner and me finishing up the ratings calculator, we are hoping to be ready to start within a day of the release of OSFM.

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                        • rovert22044
                          OCD Roster Editor
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 2509

                          #13
                          Re: 2017 OSFM Hybrid

                          Anxious to get started! I've worked with different roster editors in the past, but this team is much more organized (no offense to the others).

                          To the people who are new to here and have no clue the reputation of this roster, just know it's taken very seriously and that you're in good hands.

                          Let's get this baby going! Countdown to OSFM release!
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                          • rh123
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 184

                            #14
                            Re: 2017 OSFM Hybrid

                            Will this file have Scott's equipment edits? That is lookig on point!

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                            • rovert22044
                              OCD Roster Editor
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 2509

                              #15
                              Re: 2017 OSFM Hybrid

                              Originally posted by rh123
                              Will this file have Scott's equipment edits? That is lookig on point!
                              Whatever equipment is included in OSFM V1 will be included. I will be leading the equipment department for the Hybrid roster. I can guarantee you my work will mirror that of Scott's work. We both have a very high attention for detail, and will both be 100% accurate (assuming the player's brand/model is in the game, that is). I have nothing but good things to say about Scott and his equipment work. You're in for a treat regardless!
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