NCAA Football 14 Recruiting Guide

[Locke888]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Recruiting Guide

More testing.....
I have found out the answer to my question in my previous post.
Example: let's say you have a recruit you are going all in for and you know by the next week you will get to 100% locked. You know the point total to get is 6000ish. The next week comes and you find that you are "in a battle"/"made the cut" with 2 other schools. You are still in the lead but UCF is -550 and Miami is -1100.
EA is using a system where you must be ahead by 25% of the total lock points to sign a guy outright, so.....6000(.25)=1500
If any team is within 1500 points of the leader after lock has been achieved then that team is considered to be "in a battle".
If any team finally does achieve a 1500+ point lead on the 2nd place team they will then sign the recruit, per my example.

You'll see the note "must stay within ____ to stay in".(at the cutoff line) If you multiply that # by4 that was how many points was needed for a100% lock

[Locke888]

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Some strange things occur during recruiting...
I was doing more simming and at 1 point,
1.OSU lead
2. PSU-1500
3. Locked out Michigan(did not see points behind)
The very next week
1.OSU
2.Michigan -800, gained +8300
3.PSU locked out at -1550

Some really random stuff. To use the lock pick you need to be within2000 points of the last place team right? Because if that's true how did Michigan gain on me +8300? Random stuff is good because you don't know what will happen but I'm glad it's rare.

[Locke888]

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I purchased the recruiting reports feature and took a look at offseason recruiting.
This is only 1 season of data.....
75% of all teams will divide their points up between 5 recruits.
So a team with 10000 points will put 2000 on each guy. They seem to offer anywhere between 1-5 scholarships at this time also. So to see 1980 points on 5 guys means they offered 2 scholarships to random guys as well at 50 points a pop.
20% of all teams will divide their points between 4 recruits.
3% will divide between 3 recruits. So some odd stuff though. Akron and ULL only used 6000 points out of 10000. Not sure why. Could just be a glitch.
2% (3 teams)will put all points on 1 guy. Doesn't seem to matter the caliber of recruit either. They're not always going after the 5 star with this.

I assume the weekly bonus still applies towards recruits in offseason so checking the coach info/coaching skill tree/offseason point bonus(of other coaches you are battling recruits for)and then doing a little math would tell you how much you would need to put on a recruit to land him(figuring a team will divide points between 5 guys)

[Locke888]

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Looking at the offseason #s again.....

The games logic seems fine when teams are putting points on 1 or 5 players. But it seems off when they only put points on 3 or 4 players. These teams are leaving a lot of points unused. It doesn't make sense. Has anyone Ever figured out what is going on with it?

[Locke888]

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Apparently scholarship offers mean nothing in the offseason. Only thing that matters is who is in the points lead at the end.

Then this.... I am -180 on a WR and in 2nd place. I put 3300 points on him. The result is I lose by 4435 points and I am now in 5th place. The team that won put 0 on him and the others put approximately 2000 towards him. Makes no sense.

[JHamilton9]

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Apparently scholarship offers mean nothing in the offseason. Only thing that matters is who is in the points lead at the end.

Then this.... I am -180 on a WR and in 2nd place. I put 3300 points on him. The result is I lose by 4435 points and I am now in 5th place. The team that won put 0 on him and the others put approximately 2000 towards him. Makes no sense.

Was the team that won in first place going into the offseason? It does seem like a huge margin to miss a recruit by.

I had something similar happen with one recruit, but I lost him by under 200 points. The only thing I could figure out is the weekly bonus you get with your recruit is now 5x bigger. The offseason is compressed to one week in NCAA 14, but older versions would have you manage your points on a weekly basis.

In NCAA 14, I thought it applied the bonus once for the offseason, but it might apply the bonus five times to simulate the 5 weeks of recruiting. I lost my recruit to a school who was "Close to Home" and had high "Conference Prestige," which were 2 of the top 3 recruiting pitches for him. I didn't get any bonus points for either one of those pitches, even though I was in first-place going into the offseason.

I didn't research it any further than comparing my team to the winning school, but it was my closest logical explanation.

[Locke888]

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Was the team that won in first place going into the offseason? It does seem like a huge margin to miss a recruit by.

I had something similar happen with one recruit, but I lost him by under 200 points. The only thing I could figure out is the weekly bonus you get with your recruit is now 5x bigger. The offseason is compressed to one week in NCAA 14, but older versions would have you manage your points on a weekly basis.

In NCAA 14, I thought it applied the bonus once for the offseason, but it might apply the bonus five times to simulate the 5 weeks of recruiting. I lost my recruit to a school who was "Close to Home" and had high "Conference Prestige," which were 2 of the top 3 recruiting pitches for him. I didn't get any bonus points for either one of those pitches, even though I was in first-place going into the offseason.

I didn't research it any further than comparing my team to the winning school, but it was my closest logical explanation.

Louisiana was the team in the lead before and Rice won the recruit who was at least 3rd place. Just can't explain this.

I did some more testing. I did all the calculations as in previous posts.
I only put points on 5 guys and only put as much on each to where I would win by 5 points. 3 of 5 worked absolutely perfect. 1 guy no one signed, I was in the lead but did not offer scholarship.(I have noticed some guys sign in offseason with teams that never offered so I thought it didn't matter but I need to test this more) The last guy I lost big again like before. I did not offer here again and the team that won did. I'm thinking none of my points toward him counted because he was locked above 73%. Did not notice beforehand. But even when I calculated that in it didn't match the points I lost by. The team I lost to did not have the ability to steal recruit away from top school either.
To be safe I guess I'll offer everyone from now on.

It's like the games logic just uses the nuclear option on some of your recruits randomly just so you don't get everyone.

[Locke888]

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I came across something I have not seen yet.

Week 13, The recruit is locked. I'm in first place. It's between me and Nevada, everyone else is locked out. I have offered a scholarship. It says "must be within 1750 to stay in". The thing is Nevada is 6300 behind! Why hasn't Nevada been locked out??? I wonder if this is a case where the recruit doesn't sign with anyone at the end? Anybody seen this?

[jello1717]

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I came across something I have not seen yet.

Week 13, The recruit is locked. I'm in first place. It's between me and Nevada, everyone else is locked out. I have offered a scholarship. It says "must be within 1750 to stay in". The thing is Nevada is 6300 behind! Why hasn't Nevada been locked out??? I wonder if this is a case where the recruit doesn't sign with anyone at the end? Anybody seen this?

Did someone lose thousands of points this week? When another team pulls a scholly offer (usually because they signed another kid) they drops them usually to the bottom of the list and you'll see a huge drop for them. Often when that happens, the 1st team that was locked out (often by a lot) gets moved up above the line due to bad programming. It'll get sorted out the next week and Nevada will drop back below the line, and if Nevada is the only team above it with you, then you'll sign him next week.

EDIT: Just in case it's tough to follow that verbosity:

WEEK 12:
You
Florida -300 (-10)
--------------------
Nevada -6000 (-600)
FSU -7000 (-600)
Miami -7500 (-600)

WEEK 13: (Florida pulls his scholly offer)
You
Nevada -6600 (-600)
--------------------
FSU -7600 (-600)
Miami -8100 (-600)
Florida -9000 (-11000)

WEEK 14:
You (SIGNED)
--------------
Nevada and everyone else

[Locke888]

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Did someone lose thousands of points this week? When another team pulls a scholly offer (usually because they signed another kid) they drops them usually to the bottom of the list and you'll see a huge drop for them. Often when that happens, the 1st team that was locked out (often by a lot) gets moved up above the line due to bad programming. It'll get sorted out the next week and Nevada will drop back below the line, and if Nevada is the only team above it with you, then you'll sign him next week.

EDIT: Just in case it's tough to follow that verbosity:

WEEK 12:
You
Florida -300 (-10)
--------------------
Nevada -6000 (-600)
FSU -7000 (-600)
Miami -7500 (-600)

WEEK 13: (Florida pulls his scholly offer)
You
Nevada -6600 (-600)
--------------------
FSU -7600 (-600)
Miami -8100 (-600)
Florida -9000 (-11000)

WEEK 14:
You (SIGNED)
--------------
Nevada and everyone else

Thanks jello, I had another example of this happening in online dynasty and the issue resolved like you explained.
About to do off-season recruiting in this OD and put everything I have learned to the test. Hoping to get 6 guys according to calculations, let's see what happens.

Did not think CPU would pull scholarship offers, good info.

[voltronollie]

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I'm curious, does moving a guy to a certain position for a year increase desired stats? If I have a 6'7" 77 WR with enough blocking to make him a 70 TE would it be beneficial to move him to a OT position for his RS year? Would his blocking be the main focus of upgrade?

[BookWork123]

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I'm curious, does moving a guy to a certain position for a year increase desired stats? If I have a 6'7" 77 WR with enough blocking to make him a 70 TE would it be beneficial to move him to a OT position for his RS year? Would his blocking be the main focus of upgrade?

I believe so, but it destroys their awareness. You could edit that back up though.


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[Locke888]

Re: NCAA Football 14 Recruiting Guide

Thanks jello, I had another example of this happening in online dynasty and the issue resolved like you explained.
About to do off-season recruiting in this OD and put everything I have learned to the test. Hoping to get 6 guys according to calculations, let's see what happens.

Did not think CPU would pull scholarship offers, good info.

Ok, thought I would post what happened in my OD in offseason recruiting.

I went after 6 recruits using all I have learned
1. WR- put 880 points on this guy, should win by 5-10 points based on other teams dividing their points between 5 recruits.
The CPU used the nuclear option on this guy and I lost by 5965 points.
2. SS- put 1535 pts on him. Lost by 575 points to Colorado. Colorado did not even put pts on him and he was not even on their list(I have recruiting reports feature)?????? Only thing I can think of is I had already signed a good SS during the season. So he went where he could play? IDK
3. HB- I screwed this one up and did the math wrong. Stupid. Lost by 95 points. If I would have done it right I would have won this. 100 point error
4. OLB- Put 1450 on him. But he never signed anywhere. He was only like 50% locked, maybe he needs to be 100 to sign even in offseason?
5. WR- I really wanted this one I put 2780 on him. Lost by 550. USC got him by only dividing their pts into 4 recruits. I expect this to happen from time to time.
6. QB- Finally I signed someone. Put 1505 and won by 1000+

Not what I was hoping for☹️

[wings95]

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Ok, thought I would post what happened in my OD in offseason recruiting.

I went after 6 recruits using all I have learned
1. WR- put 880 points on this guy, should win by 5-10 points based on other teams dividing their points between 5 recruits.
The CPU used the nuclear option on this guy and I lost by 5965 points.
2. SS- put 1535 pts on him. Lost by 575 points to Colorado. Colorado did not even put pts on him and he was not even on their list(I have recruiting reports feature)?????? Only thing I can think of is I had already signed a good SS during the season. So he went where he could play? IDK
3. HB- I screwed this one up and did the math wrong. Stupid. Lost by 95 points. If I would have done it right I would have won this. 100 point error
4. OLB- Put 1450 on him. But he never signed anywhere. He was only like 50% locked, maybe he needs to be 100 to sign even in offseason?
5. WR- I really wanted this one I put 2780 on him. Lost by 550. USC got him by only dividing their pts into 4 recruits. I expect this to happen from time to time.
6. QB- Finally I signed someone. Put 1505 and won by 1000+

Not what I was hoping for☹️

Thanks for posting. I have stuff like this happen all the time. The way I do it, is pick 3-5 based on needs or who I want and than catergorize based on wants, if I am up by more than a 1000 than I put in 2000 and use the extra points on the ones I feel I need the most. This works for me like 95% of the time.

[Locke888]

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Ok, thought I would post what happened in my OD in offseason recruiting.

I went after 6 recruits using all I have learned
1. WR- put 880 points on this guy, should win by 5-10 points based on other teams dividing their points between 5 recruits.
The CPU used the nuclear option on this guy and I lost by 5965 points.
2. SS- put 1535 pts on him. Lost by 575 points to Colorado. Colorado did not even put pts on him and he was not even on their list(I have recruiting reports feature)?????? Only thing I can think of is I had already signed a good SS during the season. So he went where he could play? IDK
3. HB- I screwed this one up and did the math wrong. Stupid. Lost by 95 points. If I would have done it right I would have won this. 100 point error
4. OLB- Put 1450 on him. But he never signed anywhere. He was only like 50% locked, maybe he needs to be 100 to sign even in offseason?
5. WR- I really wanted this one I put 2780 on him. Lost by 550. USC got him by only dividing their pts into 4 recruits. I expect this to happen from time to time.
6. QB- Finally I signed someone. Put 1505 and won by 1000+

Not what I was hoping for☹️

Question about #4....
Does anyone have a clue about this? If I know a guy needs roughly 6000 points to be locked during the season and I go into the offseason at 50% locked will he not sign with me if I don't at least put the other 3000 points needed to lock him?