Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

[jfsolo]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

I definitely agree, I just worry about it not getting the full treatment right away and ending up like many other additions or changes. I'm sure it largely has to do with the upstairs but one of my biggest frustrations with Madden, gameplay team included, is that things get added and then get kicked down the priority list and moved on from instead of built upon. For instance, what they did with penalties was a good start but it didn't get touched last year and that's something I don't want to see happen here, especially with something that could have such a monumentally positive impact on the game. So when I look at it, it's from the standpoint of what we see is what we're getting for the next several years and I just hope if it does get done, it's something that is very thorough and well thought out, especially with a player base seemingly split right down the middle on two nearly polar opposites of play-style.

It's already been discussed a fair amount during the year, but that poll should hammer home the absolute necessity to separate the game styles.

I feel like if we can get it in for 18 and we can see a clear distinction in how the game plays on the simulation settings then the sim community will be galvanized in terms of keeping the pressure on them to continue to add functionality every year.

[roadman]

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https://youtu.be/uc2fyqG5OEo

This clip in a nutshell. In one play, you have Michael Bennett watch the RB catch the screen, so he turns towards him, but then goes towards the qb for an unknown reason. At 16 mark you see an illegal chop block where the players glitched into place to make it happen, and then the run finishes with lineman stopping and not blocking at the end of the play.

Can madden 18 just have real movement and reactions that mimic real football? That's all I want.


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I've seen a lot of that stuff this year and in prior years, but for some reason, it's sticking out more this year.

I hope this area receives/received attention this year.

[steelersd26]

Realistic running back substitutions by the CPU. The #1 running back should NOT be getting 30-40 carries every game.

[kjcheezhead]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

I've seen a lot of that stuff this year and in prior years, but for some reason, it's sticking out more this year.

I hope this area receives/received attention this year.

I see it every year. My eyes are just trained on it now...I can't not see it and it happens on more plays than it doesn't. People talk up how they improved the ai or blocking logic from one year to the next and I'm thinking are they playing the same game I tried?


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[Junior Moe]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

https://youtu.be/uc2fyqG5OEo

This clip in a nutshell. In one play, you have Michael Bennett watch the RB catch the screen, so he turns towards him, but then goes towards the qb for an unknown reason. At 16 mark you see an illegal chop block where the players glitched into place to make it happen, and then the run finishes with lineman stopping and not blocking at the end of the play.

Can madden 18 just have real movement and reactions that mimic real football? That's all I want.


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This is one of the biggest legacy issues I have with Madden. The penalties almost seen manufactured. If I run a HB screen on 3rd down and I break clean don't have my o lineman who's 15 yards back and completely out the play just arbitrarily hold someone. If its my WR blocking upfield, cool. I wouldn't like it but it makes since in that context. For me, it's only holding calls when I make a big conversion by a player out of the play. It drives me crazy. I have even seen instances from the second I press the pass button to a WR springing open. They have to do something different here.

[Haze88]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

Updated depth charts. X/Y/Slot need to be separate designations in place of WR. SAM and Will in place of LOLB/ROLB 1tech/3tech in place of DT and Field/Boundary/Slot in place of CB. Special teams needs to be fully customizable and not locked into our offense/defense depth charts. Let me put WR at gunner or a safety at punt protector or running backs on kick coverage. Limiting personnel should be a thing of the past at this point. Better schemes in the trenches need to be implemented. Stunts on defense and selecting a player to double in pass protection.

[NateDogPack12]

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Something I want to emphasize that is never talked about - punt trajectory and timing is still a big problem and immersion killer. The old games of a decade ago did this better than Madden 17. In the current game, there is too much time / space to return the ball. The ball does not hang in the air and coverage guys don't get down the field. In Madden, it's easy to rack out 15-20 yards on a return. I want the special teams timing to get cleaned up.


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[jfsolo]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

Something I want to emphasize that is never talked about - punt trajectory and timing is still a big problem and immersion killer. The old games of a decade ago did this better than Madden 17. In the current game, there is too much time / space to return the ball. The ball does not hang in the air and coverage guys don't get down the field. In Madden, it's easy to rack out 15-20 yards on a return. I want the special teams timing to get cleaned up.


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Yep, everybody knows that this is done poorly and it gets talked about a little bit, but it really doesn't get the attention it should. Part of that is because so many online players don't punt so they don't really care about that part of special teams.

[NateDogPack12]

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Yep, everybody knows that this is done poorly and it gets talked about a little bit, but it really doesn't get the attention it should. Part of that is because so many online players don't punt so they don't really care about that part of special teams.

Another aspect is that in reality, you may only get 1-2 times to catch a punt cleanly and run back in an NFL game. Most of the time it's a fair catch or letting a ball roll. I think gameplay wise, guys like the punt return because it's a dynamic, fun play. Only in Madden, while you definitely can run the ball too freely with a punt, at the same time I don't feel like returners are ever a real threat to hit a crease. The first guys down will almost always make the tackle, but the returner will rack out 15-20 yards because the timing is way off.


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[BizDevConglomerate]

I want better replay value. Been buying Madden for too long, the graphics aren't going to get that much better. I understand the NCAA license is shot, but they doesn't stop you from creating a generic customizable college game as a dlc for.drafting player's, scouting new talent and just overall fun playing an additional mode. It sucks not being able to draft Fournette or Watson to whichever team you choose. And quite honestly, the game gets boring after a while. The two leagues are companions to each other.

EA has to innovate in their offerings not only the product.

[xerxes313]

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I dont know if it has been mentioned yet but the gameplan options from NCAA. Like telling my corners to be aggressive and telling my o-line to hold blocks longer. Was a nice little thing I miss

[LBzrule]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

I dont know if it has been mentioned yet but the gameplan options from NCAA. Like telling my corners to be aggressive and telling my o-line to hold blocks longer. Was a nice little thing I miss

I can see this for Online h2h or for offline play now, but not for CFM. For CFM with Corners you already have the aggressive play football trait so no to muddy up the pre-play controls more with this. Plus, do we want guys to play to their ratings or do we want artificial boosts that make them better than what they are without upgrading the players ourselves? Same thing for OL. Again I can see this in online h2h and in modes like play now, but if they added it to cfm I'd be pretty unhappy with it.

[jfsolo]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

I can see this for Online h2h or for offline play now, but not for CFM. For CFM with Corners you already have the aggressive play football trait so no to muddy up the pre-play controls more with this. Plus, do we want guys to play to their ratings or do we want artificial boosts that make them better than what they are without upgrading the players ourselves? Same thing for OL. Again I can see this in online h2h and in modes like play now, but if they added it to cfm I'd be pretty unhappy with it.

It's funny that you say that because I was thinking that they might put in for CFM, but never for H2H play. In CFM you can have a risk/reward for telling a player to play a certain way in the form of more penalties. Since most H2H players don't want penalties that are out of their control, there would be no down side to having an olineman blocking longer or having a CPU controlled DB play more aggressive. I'm very confident that this would only ever be implemented in CFM.

[fitz2k2]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

1) Remove the whole other team can see the play you ran
2) change this playbook.not all teams run the same thing
3) each team playbook should at least have 50 new plays
4) when a player runs out of bounds the players shouldn't stand there acting all robotic.when a player runs out of bounds that side should clear the area or help him up
5) add all of obj td celebration
6) let players push n fight a littke bit.let the ref throw the flag to
7) lets have coaches get in refs face a little bit
8) can we finally design our own plays?

[roadman]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Gameplay Changes - What Do You Want to See?

1) Remove the whole other team can see the play you ran
2) change this playbook.not all teams run the same thing
3) each team playbook should at least have 50 new plays
4) when a player runs out of bounds the players shouldn't stand there acting all robotic.when a player runs out of bounds that side should clear the area or help him up
5) add all of obj td celebration
6) let players push n fight a littke bit.let the ref throw the flag to
7) lets have coaches get in refs face a little bit
8) can we finally design our own plays?

I agree with everything here, but #5, 6 and 7. The NFL license is holding back those request.