When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt in MLB The Show 17

[Dice]

Re: When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt in MLB The Show 17

Here is my scenario for bunting:
- Pitcher with less than two outs and runners on base
- Late inning situation with runner on 2nd base and no outs, down by one or tied, and my next hitter is my best hitter
- Super-fast base runner at the plate with less than two outs and he’s good at bunting
Other than those scenarios, I don’t bunt.

[actionhank]

Re: When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt in MLB The Show 17

It was adjusted in the patch this morning (specifically mentioned in the notes). Try it again.

Oh thank god. I've stopped bunting in the game, and it's a bummer when I can put Arcia and Villar up one after the other to try and get some surprise bunting in.

[actionhank]

Re: When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt in MLB The Show 17

Liking different sports doesn't have anything to do with where you live, so yes, those jokes are terrible.

Even still, people who do enjoy baseball may not understand the nuance of the game. Not everyone knows what pitches you want to throw when a runner is on first because you're trying to get a double play ball in the dirt. Not everyone knows what pitches you want to throw when you're trying to induce a pop fly...there's a lot of little detail in baseball, which is why so few people are coaching real teams, and the rest of us are just having fun and pretending to on our gaming systems.

[ncbravesfan]

Re: When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt in MLB The Show 17

I had a game one time where, as the Braves, I was down 2-0 in the ninth, 2 outs and Freddie Freeman up. The defense was in the shift so I bunted and was able to reach easily to give Matt Kemp a chance to tie the game. He flew out to end the game, but I thought it was a pretty good strategy.

[Caulfield]

Re: When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt in MLB The Show 17

Hey Chris, we gonna see a ''When you should and should not steal""?
I usually just play station-to-station and wait for a double or 3 run homer but with Warm Winds tutelage I'm trying to open up my offense. playing small ball I definitely got my bunting down, but I rarely barely ever steal. would be nice to get a primer on the art of stealing.

[actionhank]

Re: When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt in MLB The Show 17

Hey Chris, we gonna see a ''When you should and should not steal""?
I usually just play station-to-station and wait for a double or 3 run homer but with Warm Winds tutelage I'm trying to open up my offense. playing small ball I definitely got my bunting down, but I rarely barely ever steal. would be nice to get a primer on the art of stealing.

I'm always so bad about trying to steal. Naturally, as soon as I try to take a lead, they throw to the bag 4 straight times, so I stop leading off. Then as soon as I take off to steal, I foul the ball off and have to start all over again...

[Caulfield]

Re: When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt in MLB The Show 17

I'm always so bad about trying to steal. Naturally, as soon as I try to take a lead, they throw to the bag 4 straight times, so I stop leading off. Then as soon as I take off to steal, I foul the ball off and have to start all over again...

when this happens at home, I wish I could pump up my fans to boo the pitcher.

[My993C2]

Re: When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt in MLB The Show 17

I play with a National League team so naturally I sacrifice bunt with my pitchers.

I will also contemplate using one of my positional players in a sacrifice bunting scenario late in a game when I need one run to tie the game or to win it.

But I stopped trying to bunt for a hit with the one player I have (Carlos Gonzalez) who other teams routinely shift on. I think I tried about half a dozen times and not once has Cargo been able to even touch the ball let alone lay down a successful bunt. So I stopped trying. Plus recently in a real world game on MLB.TV (can't remember who the batter was, it might have been Cargo), the announcers were saying it plays into the hands of the defense when you try to bunt for a hit with a power hitter. Basically you are taking the bat out of the hands for someone who is capable of knocking the ball out of the park all for the attempt of getting a single. I would say if your player has bunting skills then perhaps at times it does make sense. But I do agree with the announcers here.

Finally, I have yet to call for a suicide squeeze bunt. If we had safety squeezes, perhaps I would. But I don't like the all or nothing approach especially when I am playing with a team who is often (not always) good at getting base hits with normal swings.

[BA2929]

Re: When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt in MLB The Show 17

In all honesty I was merely making a joke about needing an article about such a simple subject that I assume everyone knows. Please take into consideration that I am a self important American so the thought there might be people who don't understand baseball playing never crossed my mind. As far as soccer goes I would rather be tarred and feathered because I don't live in a country where chickens in the living room is a common occurrence LOL!! Sorry another bad joke I can't help myself : )

This is pretty insulting to our fellow gamers from other countries tbh, even if it was a bad attempt at a "bad joke".

[Brian3113]

Statistically speaking, in MLB, there is not a situation where sac bunting is the right choice. According to the advanced analytics, the odds of scoring a run while swinging away are higher than scoring a run and bunting with a runnier on first.

[Caulfield]

Re: When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt in MLB The Show 17

Statistically speaking, in MLB, there is not a situation where sac bunting is the right choice. According to the advanced analytics, the odds of scoring a run while swinging away are higher than scoring a run and bunting with a runnier on first.

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[bcruise]

Re: When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt in MLB The Show 17

Statistically speaking, in MLB, there is not a situation where sac bunting is the right choice. According to the advanced analytics, the odds of scoring a run while swinging away are higher than scoring a run and bunting with a runnier on first.

Perhaps in real baseball that's true (or at least its debatable since that's where it gets debated all the time). But in a video game where it's very easy to accidentally hit into double plays I think there's a lot more risk involved in trying to string together 2 more hits, or put one in a gap to score the runner.

Bunting the runner to 2nd removes that risk.

That said, I'd still only do it situationally, in obvious situations like with the pitcher up or when I was trying to push across a tying / go ahead run. It kills the chance at a big inning.

[EWRMETS]

Re: When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt in MLB The Show 17

Statistically speaking, in MLB, there is not a situation where sac bunting is the right choice. According to the advanced analytics, the odds of scoring a run while swinging away are higher than scoring a run and bunting with a runnier on first.

If you're down a run or tied late in the game and need 1 run with runners on first and second, bunting is the right play.

http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/users/brooks/public_html/feda/datasets/expectedruns.html

[kehlis]

Re: When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt in MLB The Show 17

Statistically speaking, in MLB, there is not a situation where sac bunting is the right choice. According to the advanced analytics, the odds of scoring a run while swinging away are higher than scoring a run and bunting with a runnier on first.

Very first part of this thread:

There's a debate amongst baseball fans about when and where you should bunt, with many different opinions on the subject. If you are part of the Sabermetric 'never bunt ever' crowd, this video is totally not for you.

Please don't make this thread a discussion about sabermetrics. As stated, this is not the thread for that discussion.

[Caulfield]

Re: When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt in MLB The Show 17

there is not a situation where sac bunting is the right choice.

Please don't make this thread a discussion about sabermetrics. As stated, this is not the thread for that discussion.

even after you remove every bit of saberstats from the discussion, saying there is not a situation where sac bunting is the right choice is totally wrong anyway.
scenario on "When You Should and Shouldn't Bunt":
runner on 2B, 0 outs, pitcher at the plate in the bottom of extra innings and you have no pinch-hitters left, you have a relief piicher batting who is say 0-100 career, you cant tell me your going to waste an at-bat and let him see if he can get a hit to move the runner on 2B over to third. No, your going to have him bunt down 1B way, then take your chances with a runner on 3B w/1 out and hope to either get a hit to win the game, or even a deep sac fly.
next thing you know, people will be saying theres never a situation where sac fly is the right choice too