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  • young22
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    • Feb 2017
    • 2083

    #1

    Anybody else feel like slumps are scripted?

    It's like as soon as you get the snowflake next to your name, you can't hit anything. You'll square up a fastball and it'll go 300 feet. The ball finds fielders, and you can't get hot until the game decides you can.

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  • MetsFan16
    MVP
    • Nov 2011
    • 1416

    #2
    Re: Anybody else feel like slumps are scripted?

    Scripted no but there's definitely a code somewhere that doesn't let a player have a span of 12 for their last 25 span an entire season


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    • oilersfan99
      Rookie
      • Dec 2008
      • 315

      #3
      Re: Anybody else feel like slumps are scripted?

      Only slumps I've ever had is my own doing. Not being patient enough at the plate will contribute to that. As far as hits being shorter or whatever, that kind of stuff happens here or there. I don't find it bad at all in this version. In past ones maybe I would say yes

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      • Bat
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        • Mar 2005
        • 1630

        #4
        Re: Anybody else feel like slumps are scripted?

        Last season I was playing a Rockies franchise. For first month and a half or so I was batting 360+, lead the league in HR's, RBI's with Arenado. Next thing I know I couldn't get a hit. Wen't from high 300's to around .150 over the next 2 months. I couldn't do squat. I benched him, moved around the lineup. I eventually got so mad I quit playing all together.

        Edit* I am not saying i think it is scripted. I was referring more to a crazy slump.
        Last edited by Bat; 05-08-2017, 02:30 AM.
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        • Caulfield
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          • Apr 2011
          • 10986

          #5
          Re: Anybody else feel like slumps are scripted?

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          I keep waiting for someone to mention how Vasgersian and Reynolds lines seem scripted

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          • Hugh Jars
            Rookie
            • May 2017
            • 34

            #6
            Anybody else feel like slumps are scripted?

            +1. Definitely scripted. In RTTS at least. Peaks and troughs. Ive played enough of this mode to pick this up.

            Or at least there is some logic that if you have a poor few games the computer drops your contact and power ratings. Is this confirmed does anyone know?


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            Last edited by Hugh Jars; 05-06-2017, 07:49 PM.

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            • Greencollarbaseball
              Pro
              • Jun 2012
              • 926

              #7
              Re: Anybody else feel like slumps are scripted?

              Hot and cold symbols are representations of your last 10 games, not indicators of future performance.

              In my rtts I've gone full seasons never getting the cold snowflake.


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              • Shergie51
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                • Aug 2014
                • 143

                #8
                Re: Anybody else feel like slumps are scripted?

                yes and heres how we know: adjusting a pitchers Break & Control per pitch literally does nothing to his overall rating. You can give him a wipeout slider with 99 velocity, Break, & control but if his H/9, K/9, HR/9, BB/9 arent good they will crush that slider.

                Makes no sense. I try not to think about it, but basically its like a slot machine and the HR/9, H/9, etc along with the hitters ratings determine the odds or roll of the dice. Makes no sense that a guy could throw a 94mph wipeout slider that falls off the table with pinpoint accuracy and that would have nothing to do with how many Hits, homers, and walks per 9 innings the guy gives up. yet another guy could throw a 79mph slider that he cant control with no break that hangs up there over the plate, and still technically have a 99 rating in H/9, BB/9, HR/9, etc...

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                • NewNapkin
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                  • May 2009
                  • 989

                  #9
                  Re: Anybody else feel like slumps are scripted?

                  Originally posted by Shergie51
                  yes and heres how we know: adjusting a pitchers Break & Control per pitch literally does nothing to his overall rating. You can give him a wipeout slider with 99 velocity, Break, & control but if his H/9, K/9, HR/9, BB/9 arent good they will crush that slider.

                  Makes no sense. I try not to think about it, but basically its like a slot machine and the HR/9, H/9, etc along with the hitters ratings determine the odds or roll of the dice. Makes no sense that a guy could throw a 94mph wipeout slider that falls off the table with pinpoint accuracy and that would have nothing to do with how many Hits, homers, and walks per 9 innings the guy gives up. yet another guy could throw a 79mph slider that he cant control with no break that hangs up there over the plate, and still technically have a 99 rating in H/9, BB/9, HR/9, etc...
                  What does this have to do with the topic at hand?
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                  • Shergie51
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                    • Aug 2014
                    • 143

                    #10
                    Re: Anybody else feel like slumps are scripted?

                    Originally posted by KGHerm
                    What does this have to do with the topic at hand?
                    well im just saying that there is some ''pre-determination" in your outcome
                    tat the plate...my bad i didnt mean anything bad by it. I had just realized and been thinking about what i wrote in my previous comment for awhile so when i saw the thread i thought what i was thinking might help with some insight on this topic even though not directly related.

                    sorry if it came off bad or unhelpful or out of place...was not my intention.

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                    • nomo17k
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                      • Feb 2011
                      • 5735

                      #11
                      Re: Anybody else feel like slumps are scripted?

                      I remember reading the devs mentioning that some attribute ratings (probably something like Contact, Power, Vision, etc.) get only moderate boost/penalty while in hot/cold streak...

                      That's still different from outcome being scripted. It might cause some "run-away" effects in your performance (you hit poorly, get some attribute penalty, which makes you perform even worse).

                      No outcome is predetermined in the game.
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                      • Bunselpower32
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                        • Jul 2012
                        • 947

                        #12
                        Re: Anybody else feel like slumps are scripted?

                        I'm pretty sure that pretty much any baseball player that has had a slump feels like they're scripted.

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                        • Shadymamba
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                          • Apr 2005
                          • 758

                          #13
                          Re: Anybody else feel like slumps are scripted?

                          Originally posted by Hugh Jars
                          +1. Definitely scripted. In RTTS at least. Peaks and troughs. Ive played enough of this mode to pick this up.

                          Or at least there is some logic that if you have a poor few games the computer drops your contact and power ratings. Is this confirmed does anyone know?


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                          Yes i had about a week of batting .202 over a span and went to my training screen and just about everything had arrows down and the last time i trained was 6 days ago - so the slump sure does have an impact on your ratings
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                          • Hugh Jars
                            Rookie
                            • May 2017
                            • 34

                            #14
                            Anybody else feel like slumps are scripted?

                            I think the clutch rating in the game is an absolute complete crock of .....Statistically its been proven clutch is a myth. If anything, players overall perform worse than normal in tight situations. Stratomatic baseball base their player outcomes on real statistics and have a model for calculating this, and for almost every player statistics for favourable outcomes lower slightly in 'pressure' moments. Having it in the game skews things and gives it a predetirmined feel when games dont follow the expected course.

                            Id be interested to know if mlb the show come up with their player ratings on a statistical model or just their own subjective interpretation. I get the feeling its the latter.

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                            Last edited by Hugh Jars; 05-06-2017, 11:10 PM.

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                            • kac
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 530

                              #15
                              Re: Anybody else feel like slumps are scripted?

                              Originally posted by Bat
                              Last season I was playing a Rockies franchise. For first month and a half or so I was batting 360+, lead the league in HR's, RBI's with Arenado. Next thing I know I couldn't get a hit. Wen't from high 300's to around .150 over the next 2 months. I couldn't do squat. I benched him, moved around the lineup. I eventually got so mad I quit playing all together.
                              This is happening in my Indians franchise now in 17. I've lost the last 4 games in the 8th and 9th inning with Andrew Miller blowing 3 of the games and Cody Allen blowing one game giving up 2 home runs in the bottom of the ninth and the whole line up has gone into a slump.

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