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  • OhMrHanky
    MVP
    • Aug 2012
    • 1898

    #61
    Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

    Originally posted by howboutdat
    well if that is the case, then that is just crap and they gonna have alot of pissed off people when they finally give details on that.Sorry but ima call that what it is if that is the case. I hope your wrong, but honestly after having 24 hours to digest the little info that came out and think about how things tend to actually play out compared to what is promised early on...... i have all but almost lost my excitement already for whats been talked about so far... Guess the old saying ,fool me once shame on you , fool me 10 times , im an idiot....


    Yeah, here's the back of back description:

    "Coverage Assignment: Know your job in pass coverage with an on-screen, real-time UI system informing you of your coverage assignment in pass defense."


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    • Greenblood60
      Rookie
      • May 2014
      • 132

      #62
      Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

      "Target Passing: For the first time ever, no longer are you tied to throwing at your open wide receiver. Throw to who you want, in the exact spot on the field with all-new Target Passing, giving you, ultimate control over where the ball is thrown."

      It's like they read my mind. I wasn't going to even pay attention this year unless they did something new regarding the passing game. We've been passing the same way for two decades. Hopefully it isn't too nerfed, meaning they don't assist the user too much. I know they're weary of alienating people by making the mechanic too difficult ( we all remember how the vision cone was received ), but whatever they do, I hope completing a wide open pass isn't a given. Missing a wide open receiver on a go route, and missing out on a TD, because of an over throw on the user's end will make completing that same type of pass much more satisfying.

      What's probably going to happen is that the user is still going to be able press x to throw to the x receiver ( like always ), but the targeting mechanic will also allow the user to throw anywhere they want to on the field. If that's the case, I hope using the targeting system gives a user a distinct advantage over users who choose to pass the traditional ( easier ) way.
      Last edited by Greenblood60; 05-13-2017, 09:16 AM.

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      • sebennayx
        Rookie
        • Apr 2010
        • 167

        #63
        Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

        Originally posted by OhMrHanky
        Yeah, here's the back of back description:

        "Coverage Assignment: Know your job in pass coverage with an on-screen, real-time UI system informing you of your coverage assignment in pass defense."


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        From a gameplay perspective, maybe that means splits, positioning on release, route stem, etc. will actually matter...and hoping deep zones have been fixed

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        • Greenblood60
          Rookie
          • May 2014
          • 132

          #64
          Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

          Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
          Very interested to see how this works. It's gotta be something super simple and easy. If it means untethered receivers though I'm all for it. Color me intrigued.
          If that's the case, color me not intrigued. I anticipate new targeting system giving users the ability to throw the ball where ever they want to on the field, while still allowing them to pass the way we always have. For example, on a fade route in the endzone, the user to could either simply press the button to throw the ball to the receiver running the fade route, or the user could use the targeting system and aim for the corner in the back of the endzone.

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          • BlackBetty15
            MVP
            • Sep 2010
            • 1548

            #65
            Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

            Originally posted by OhMrHanky
            Yeah, here's the back of back description:

            "Coverage Assignment: Know your job in pass coverage with an on-screen, real-time UI system informing you of your coverage assignment in pass defense."


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            OK...here is the deal and hopefully this will save you from yourselves. This is literally a day 0 release of information. We got a trailer...that in all likelihood revealed a SMALL minutia of what to come...but more so...had Madden 17 written all over it with the "in game" play scenes we saw. Not holding Madden to that until we see it firsthand at E3..Period. The back of the box description...is so bare bones that its typical marketing Madden. Coverage assignments can mean a ton of things and I for one am brushing it aside until further news comes explaining...simply because I know me and I will get furious if I am hyping myself up for a feature that under delivers. Thats my tactic, I would say follow suite because we have all been following madden long enough (I myself have seen 4 developer teams come through) that attempting to unravel the method of thought is pointless. I am not even putting much thought into the "styles of play yet" simply because WE know what that means to US...but what does that mean to THEM. What have we been playing all these years? They called THAT sim so what is the baseline to them and what sim do they think they will bless us with? The teaser had me buying this just because there is enough for ME that warrants my day one purchase and dissecting the scarce information we have isnt gonna help. LOL Bottom line...I am taking the following approach that has helped the past two Maddens.

            1. Assume nothing and dont read in between the lines. Trust me...I have enough gray hairs that prove otherwise.

            2. Take info in stride. Goes with #1. Madden is a victim of its own bad marketing. SCEA dominates IMO with this and it all revolves around Russel Ramone. He is a dang good PR and face for MLB the show. He interacts with DOZENS of sites including this one and MLB the show is better for it. Madden team only does twitter which is a dying social media medium. Expecting Madden to be any different and releasing meaningful explanations of its feature in a timely manner is gonna age you quick.

            3. I love the private eyes in this forum. They take a picture and dissect the mess of it looking for little golden nuggets of truth. Post E3 I will take notice of such finding but from the first trailer...its always a touch up not representation of the game that we will get in august. The Madden jump from Xbox to 360 where TO and Mcnabb taught me that valuable lesson.
            "Im all jacked up on mountain dew!"
            " Im just a big hairy american winning machine"

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            • roadman
              *ll St*r
              • Aug 2003
              • 26339

              #66
              Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

              Originally posted by BlackBetty15
              OK...here is the deal and hopefully this will save you from yourselves. This is literally a day 0 release of information. We got a trailer...that in all likelihood revealed a SMALL minutia of what to come...but more so...had Madden 17 written all over it with the "in game" play scenes we saw. Not holding Madden to that until we see it firsthand at E3..Period. The back of the box description...is so bare bones that its typical marketing Madden. Coverage assignments can mean a ton of things and I for one am brushing it aside until further news comes explaining...simply because I know me and I will get furious if I am hyping myself up for a feature that under delivers. Thats my tactic, I would say follow suite because we have all been following madden long enough (I myself have seen 4 developer teams come through) that attempting to unravel the method of thought is pointless. I am not even putting much thought into the "styles of play yet" simply because WE know what that means to US...but what does that mean to THEM. What have we been playing all these years? They called THAT sim so what is the baseline to them and what sim do they think they will bless us with? The teaser had me buying this just because there is enough for ME that warrants my day one purchase and dissecting the scarce information we have isnt gonna help. LOL Bottom line...I am taking the following approach that has helped the past two Maddens.

              1. Assume nothing and dont read in between the lines. Trust me...I have enough gray hairs that prove otherwise.

              2. Take info in stride. Goes with #1. Madden is a victim of its own bad marketing. SCEA dominates IMO with this and it all revolves around Russel Ramone. He is a dang good PR and face for MLB the show. He interacts with DOZENS of sites including this one and MLB the show is better for it. Madden team only does twitter which is a dying social media medium. Expecting Madden to be any different and releasing meaningful explanations of its feature in a timely manner is gonna age you quick.

              3. I love the private eyes in this forum. They take a picture and dissect the mess of it looking for little golden nuggets of truth. Post E3 I will take notice of such finding but from the first trailer...its always a touch up not representation of the game that we will get in august. The Madden jump from Xbox to 360 where TO and Mcnabb taught me that valuable lesson.
              4. Look at Twitter link I provide below with conversation with Rex.

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              • johnnyg713
                MVP
                • Dec 2007
                • 1465

                #67
                Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                Originally posted by roadman
                4. Look at Twitter link I provide below with conversation with Rex.

                https://twitter.com/simmaddenleague/...57023350030341
                They definitely can and will do it. But will it be for madden 18? just saying...

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                • OhMrHanky
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 1898

                  #68
                  Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                  Originally posted by BlackBetty15
                  OK...here is the deal and hopefully this will save you from yourselves. This is literally a day 0 release of information. We got a trailer...that in all likelihood revealed a SMALL minutia of what to come...but more so...had Madden 17 written all over it with the "in game" play scenes we saw. Not holding Madden to that until we see it firsthand at E3..Period. The back of the box description...is so bare bones that its typical marketing Madden. Coverage assignments can mean a ton of things and I for one am brushing it aside until further news comes explaining...simply because I know me and I will get furious if I am hyping myself up for a feature that under delivers. Thats my tactic, I would say follow suite because we have all been following madden long enough (I myself have seen 4 developer teams come through) that attempting to unravel the method of thought is pointless. I am not even putting much thought into the "styles of play yet" simply because WE know what that means to US...but what does that mean to THEM. What have we been playing all these years? They called THAT sim so what is the baseline to them and what sim do they think they will bless us with? The teaser had me buying this just because there is enough for ME that warrants my day one purchase and dissecting the scarce information we have isnt gonna help. LOL Bottom line...I am taking the following approach that has helped the past two Maddens.



                  1. Assume nothing and dont read in between the lines. Trust me...I have enough gray hairs that prove otherwise.



                  2. Take info in stride. Goes with #1. Madden is a victim of its own bad marketing. SCEA dominates IMO with this and it all revolves around Russel Ramone. He is a dang good PR and face for MLB the show. He interacts with DOZENS of sites including this one and MLB the show is better for it. Madden team only does twitter which is a dying social media medium. Expecting Madden to be any different and releasing meaningful explanations of its feature in a timely manner is gonna age you quick.



                  3. I love the private eyes in this forum. They take a picture and dissect the mess of it looking for little golden nuggets of truth. Post E3 I will take notice of such finding but from the first trailer...its always a touch up not representation of the game that we will get in august. The Madden jump from Xbox to 360 where TO and Mcnabb taught me that valuable lesson.


                  Lol. I agree. I'm buying, regardless. I always buy madden and FIFA every year. So, for me, it doesn't matter. And, I'm trying to help people not get too hyped. The coverage assignments is a great example. We don't know everything about it, but based on the back of box, it is NOT what people first think of. I think most people instantly think, 'ok. I can lineup my #1 CB on my #1 WR and lock him up.' But, if u read that description, its really just some tackle cone type of UI to help user cover. Now, perhaps they also added CB/WR matchups as well and u can assign them. So, u never know till later. But yeah, overall, gotta watch that early hype. [emoji6][emoji41]


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                  • roadman
                    *ll St*r
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 26339

                    #69
                    Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                    Originally posted by johnnyg713
                    They definitely can and will do it. But will it be for madden 18? just saying...
                    Clint wanted to get it in for a title update last year, but it didn't make the cut.

                    So, with Rex's tweet, hopefully, 2 plus 2 = 4.

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                    • DeuceDouglas
                      Madden Dev Team
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 4297

                      #70
                      Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                      Originally posted by Greenblood60
                      If that's the case, color me not intrigued. I anticipate new targeting system giving users the ability to throw the ball where ever they want to on the field, while still allowing them to pass the way we always have. For example, on a fade route in the endzone, the user to could either simply press the button to throw the ball to the receiver running the fade route, or the user could use the targeting system and aim for the corner in the back of the endzone.
                      I'm really interested to know the mechanics behind it. At first I figured it would have to be something super easy to appease the casuals but the more I think about it I think they might take the same route as the ball-carrier moves last year where there is tiers of difficulty for it. Basically the easiest being auto where the game does everything for you and the hardest being you get to choose velocity and location with some options in the middle.

                      It seems like something that could really be game changing for both the user and AI if done properly but also has the potential to either be not as useful or free as they're depicting or too clunky and difficult for people to be able to use and enjoy. Definitely eager to see this in action and see what the controls are behind it.

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                      • OhMrHanky
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1898

                        #71
                        Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                        Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
                        I'm really interested to know the mechanics behind it. At first I figured it would have to be something super easy to appease the casuals but the more I think about it I think they might take the same route as the ball-carrier moves last year where there is tiers of difficulty for it. Basically the easiest being auto where the game does everything for you and the hardest being you get to choose velocity and location with some options in the middle.



                        It seems like something that could really be game changing for both the user and AI if done properly but also has the potential to either be not as useful or free as they're depicting or too clunky and difficult for people to be able to use and enjoy. Definitely eager to see this in action and see what the controls are behind it.


                        Yeah, this is def the most interesting thing to see fleshed out from only seeing back of box stuff. And, I absolutely mean no insult to madden developers when I say this, this could either be implemented in a creative and intuitive fashion, or it could be HORRIBLE!! Lol. I mean, the timing is always the issue. If they do the pass rush correctly, you've got 2-5 secs to find the WR, throw the ball, and then aim something (perhaps?). So, I mean, for me, that being said, I feel it has to be easy enough to perform within the time allotted to throw the ball. I always felt this was why a lot of people didn't like the vision cone. They couldn't move in the pocket, aim the cone, and throw the ball, it was like 1 thing too many for them. This will probably be the same for them. For me, I loved the vision cone. So, it this implementation is something like, 'press X for WR X', and then u have a split second while your QB is in throwing motion to move an icon that starts with the wr's current location or something, and then u flick the stick inside, upfield, towards the corner of end zone, etc, then it could be cool. The devil is in the details on this one. And, as u say, and I could not agree more, if this removes the tethering, I am ALL ABOUT IT!! Lol. The tethering for years has truly been something that kept madden behind, and is always one of those NFL 2k vs madden talking points that comes up. Looking forward to seeing vids of this for sure.


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                        • green94
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 3131

                          #72
                          Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                          Plx fix the sidelines before you fix the exterior of each stadium...

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                          • DeuceDouglas
                            Madden Dev Team
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 4297

                            #73
                            Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                            Originally posted by BlackBetty15
                            1. Assume nothing and dont read in between the lines.
                            Just to add to this, don't even assume anything once we get the deep dives. They're just as much fluff as these teaser trailers and none of the information that ever comes out is going to tell you about the downside of the feature. Some stuff like tackle battles is pretty obvious and straightforward, other stuff like Gameplanning you have to play the game to understand. Take everything you read with a gigantic grain of salt.

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                            • leekeiluhn
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 5

                              #74
                              Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                              Love the sound of Play Now Live. I've been wanting something like this. Playing along side week by week with the real NFL season!!! Accept we control the outcome, it's kind of like an alternate reality. Love that the roster updates happen simultaneously


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                              • howboutdat
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 1908

                                #75
                                Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                                well , if it plays out like last year, will be between wednesday and thursday next week before we get more info really.Possibly every friday for month of may , then CFM news right before or after e3.....
                                Yup, i said it !



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