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  • Madden08PCgmr
    MVP
    • Feb 2017
    • 2441

    #121
    More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

    Originally posted by adembroski
    A particularly infuriating Canadian friend of mine named Dave. I also worked on it, as well as Gommo's MaddenAmp and other tools over at Football freaks to make Franchise tolerable.
    IIRC, it was you that suggested I move over to PC.

    And yes, 2006-2008 were catastrophically bad in regards to your point there.

    But 2004 and 2005 were very solid in relation to their era.

    If you want to waste a few minutes of life, here's a sim I ran to document it;

    http://www.footballidiot.com/forum/v...p=17652#p17652

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    Last edited by Madden08PCgmr; 05-16-2017, 05:36 PM.
    You want free speech?
    Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.

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    • BlackBetty15
      MVP
      • Sep 2010
      • 1548

      #122
      Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

      Originally posted by CM Hooe
      We're veering well off-topic from feature discussion here, but I'll humor you: I'm 30 years old and I've purchased and played every single Madden which had a franchise mode except Madden 2000. (I even, regrettably, purchased Madden 08 three times).



      I have never used 32-team user control in any franchise I have ever played, with the exception of one franchise in Madden 06 PC where I used 32 custom teams. I have consistently enjoyed the experience while controlling just one team. To that end, though I understand how others might enjoy playing God so-to-speak, I dispute that 32-team control is or has ever been necessary to enjoy franchise.



      Given how many complaints I have seen over not only years but decades on this forum about sim stats - I've been around here for a while - I also dispute this. Heck I remember a huge "manifesto" thread of sorts from MaddenMania way back in the PS2 days where one particularly ambitious poster went through all the coach settings, all the teams, all the depth charts, etc. to try and maximize the accuracy of sim stats.



      Disagree that it is no longer engrossing, I think people's expectations have increased as the years have gone on and technology has improved. People's expectations by-and-large have also shifted as video games have become more social experiences over the past decade or so. As such, priorities for the development team change to react to those shifts.

      Franchise mode is at its core the exact same thing it was in Madden 2001; though it has a lot more functionality and polish - you can play online, the in-game presentation has a ton of polish, the mode is much more approachable for new players - it's still play-multiple-seasons draft-rookies sign-free-agents win-the-Super-Bowl that it always ever was.

      Pretty much nailed it. I am 34 years old FWIW. I expect franchise to be what ncaa14 was. Maybe that's my biggest beef is, I have ALWAYS felt that if Madden and ncaa teams combined forces it would be amazing...yet here we are. I miss the coaching carousel big time. The GUI in franchise is pretty bad and clunky. It's also not interactive or engaging at all. Used to be...but not in a while has it been.
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      • Thunderhorse
        Rookie
        • Jun 2011
        • 485

        #123
        Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

        Originally posted by adembroski
        A particularly infuriating Canadian friend of mine named Dave. I also worked on it, as well as Gommo's MaddenAmp and other tools over at Football freaks to make Franchise tolerable.



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        Those boys within that community always gave Dave such a hard time.

        Dave is a good guy.

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        • adembroski
          49ers
          • Jul 2002
          • 5829

          #124
          Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

          The best Madden franchise by far was Madden '08 PC with the use of Madden Editor and MaddenAmp. Not even close.

          I wish they'd put this game back on PC. We could do so much with similar hacking methods. The current franchise engine is far easier to manipulate.

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          • ggsimmonds
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2009
            • 11235

            #125
            Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

            Originally posted by OhMrHanky
            Wait a minute. Wait one minute. Did u say, 'dairy air'? Lol. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]. Awesome. Hate to be that guy, but it's 'derriere'. It's French. I love it, though. [emoji6][emoji41]


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            lol, damn, I just became one of the people didn't I?
            I don't know if it makes it better or worse but i wasn't sure if it was dairy air or something like dairy aire so I googled it prior to posting. Google lied to me!

            No defense, I deserve any ridicule, kinda like typing "bone apple tee" I guess

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            • Madden08PCgmr
              MVP
              • Feb 2017
              • 2441

              #126
              Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

              Originally posted by adembroski
              I wish they'd put this game back on PC. We could do so much with similar hacking methods. The current franchise engine is far easier to manipulate.

              Sent from my SM-G930P using Operation Sports mobile app

              Considering everything is built on PC now, you would think they would.

              But considering they know it would get modded to high heaven, perhaps that's working against us.

              .. being inside their walls, did they care what Football-Freaks was doing at the time?


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              You want free speech?
              Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.

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              • adembroski
                49ers
                • Jul 2002
                • 5829

                #127
                Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                Originally posted by Madden08PCgmr
                IIRC, it was you that suggested I move over to PC.

                And yes, 2006-2008 were catastrophically bad in regards to your point there.

                But 2004 and 2005 were very solid in relation to their era.

                If you want to waste a few minutes of life, here's a sim I ran to document it;

                http://www.footballidiot.com/forum/v...p=17652#p17652

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                I tried to convince a lot of people to move to PC.

                Sent from my SM-G930P using Operation Sports mobile app
                There are two types of people on OS: Those who disagree with me, and those who agree.

                The first kind is wrong. The second is superfluous.

                The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.
                -Mark Twain.

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                • adembroski
                  49ers
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5829

                  #128
                  Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                  Originally posted by Madden08PCgmr
                  Considering everything is built on PC now, you would think they would.

                  But considering they know it would get modded to high heaven, perhaps that's working against us.

                  .. being inside their walls, did they care what Football-Freaks was doing at the time?


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                  The PC version is talked about every year internally, it just keeps not happening. I don't think modding is the concern, it's the return on investment. Sports games don't do particularly well on PC. I wasn't working there during FFs heyday, but Ian and Phil was cool with it. Someone leaked a utility for Head Coach 07 to FF once.

                  . Where it's built is irrelevant, it wont run on Windows unless it's ported. You adjust data and write code on your PC, yes, but it all has to be exported to the dev kit to run.

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                  Last edited by adembroski; 05-16-2017, 07:08 PM.
                  There are two types of people on OS: Those who disagree with me, and those who agree.

                  The first kind is wrong. The second is superfluous.

                  The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.
                  -Mark Twain.

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                  • OhMrHanky
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 1898

                    #129
                    Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                    Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                    lol, damn, I just became one of the people didn't I?

                    I don't know if it makes it better or worse but i wasn't sure if it was dairy air or something like dairy aire so I googled it prior to posting. Google lied to me!



                    No defense, I deserve any ridicule, kinda like typing "bone apple tee" I guess


                    Lol. Yeah, it's all good. I was ROFL when I realized what u meant. I thought maybe u might've voice texted it as well. I will be using this for the rest of my life if it makes u feel any better. [emoji6]. Dairy air, I love it. [emoji23][emoji6]


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                    • bigboyc
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 192

                      #130
                      Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                      Originally posted by adembroski
                      The PC version is talked about every year internally, it just keeps not happening. I don't think modding is the concern, it's the return on investment. Sports games don't do particularly well on PC.

                      . Where it's built is irrelevant, it wont run on Windows unless it's ported. You adjust data and write code on your PC, yes, but it all has to be exported to the dev kit to run.

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                      Peter Moore was the reason for no PC version. He is gone now. Maybe Madden 19.

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                      • adembroski
                        49ers
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 5829

                        #131
                        Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                        Originally posted by bigboyc
                        Peter Moore was the reason for no PC version. He is gone now. Maybe Madden 19.
                        Peter Moore was a **** on a lot of levels, but his reasons for not doing PC are no less valid. In fact, they're more valid. Madden would do even less business today because EA's all-in with Origin, and it's doubly crippling not to be on Steam now days.

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                        There are two types of people on OS: Those who disagree with me, and those who agree.

                        The first kind is wrong. The second is superfluous.

                        The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.
                        -Mark Twain.

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                        • jerwoods
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3002

                          #132
                          Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                          Originally posted by Madden08PCgmr
                          I'd be curious to know the age range of posters here, and how many Maddens you've purchased/played.

                          There was a time 32-team control wasn't necessary.

                          There was a time franchise sim stats were accurate.

                          There was a time franchise mode was engrossing. Possibly beacuse of its newness, but engrossing nevertheless.

                          I understand very well the issues that arose with the last console cycle. The economy wasn't the best either. But at those are just hollow excuses to me right now.

                          If you read the board from 10 years ago, then come back to this, or the other threads from the past few days, you're going to find people asking for many of the same things.

                          How crazy is that? Honestly?!


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                          i have played every madden since 98 on pc

                          17 was the best madden total package wise for next gen since madden 12 and 10

                          the main plom i have is the CPU AI in the 2 min drill lack of awr

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                          • binga30
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 359

                            #133
                            Franchise GUI is just ugly. Slow, tedious to get to where you want. I used to love the 09 Madden, train your player with bench press and running drills. It just worked!

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                            • RGiles36
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 3960

                              #134
                              Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                              Add me to the list of those guys super-intrigued by the new target passing. I've felt for years the passing game needed a new take, but I came to accept the enhancements over the recent years and figured we'd never see significant change.

                              To speculate, I feel like it will have some similarities to Fever's 'Read and Lead'. And I only think that because some of the Sim Standard gentlemen have made videos in recent months discussing read and lead. With those guys being involved to a degree, I'd like to think they were clued in on the possible direction months ago. But again, just speculation.

                              I just hope it's executed well and its something that the fan base can smoothly transition to.


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                              • therealsmallville
                                Pro
                                • May 2011
                                • 940

                                #135
                                Re: More Madden NFL 18 Features Revealed

                                For me, I'm hoping Target Passing works in the sense that Rex (or someone) could demo it in a video, say "I'm going to throw it into the dirt 5 yards in front of my receiver on purpose", and then snap the ball and do just that.

                                Most of the time, new features fall into the "you can't see it, so you have to play it to get it" category...but Target Passing, if done how I'd prefer it, is easily shown. I have a feeling it won't work like that, but I'm hoping anyway.


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