Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

[ODogg]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

Agree to disagree

Yes but let me ask you one question. Are you thinking of this as prior to the game you choose your style of passing and then that is the style you're locked into using for that game?

Because if so, I could see why you might think that it'd possibly be unfair. In that case both people should be using the same passing method in a game.

But if it's skill based and you have the ability to choose on every play how you pass (on the fly), I don't see how you would think it'd put anyone who chose to use it at a disadvantage. If it isn't working for you and you need to get better at it, then go back to the normal passing method until you can practice and get better at it and then you're back to being on an even playing field with your opponent for that game.

As I said, I'd think a bigger worry would be that those who got good at it would get too good at it and it might unbalance the game if everyone is placing perfect passes all over the field using crappy QBs.

But assuming EA is able to keep ratings involved then that shouldn't happen.

[JoshC1977]

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You're making the faulty assumption that the person using the newer style passing system would be worse using it. They probably will be worse at using it at first but if they get good at it they likely have the potential to be even better than someone using the buttons.

Traditionally that's the case for any sports games control schemes. The basic scheme of control is easily accessible for people to use, the more advanced schemes are harder to use but can offer a greater return on those who master them.

I actually thought you were going to make the opposite point, that someone using the new targeting system could potentially make some scrub QB into a really good QB. That's probably something we should be more concerned about. But honestly if player ratings still come into play then that shouldn't be an issue..

The bolded is dead-on in my opinion. This is precisely how FIFA manual passing is...the more automated (tethered) is easier, but the manual controls can allow you to do WAY more things if you are good at it (I'm personally not...lol).

The current Madden passing when using the advanced controls is similar...you can do so much more with it, but you have to know what you are doing.....if M18 can tie-in a mechanic where the left stick is more responsible for ball placement and "de-tethers" the pass, it could work really well.

[XtremeDunkz]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

Yes but let me ask you one question. Are you thinking of this as prior to the game you choose your style of passing and then that is the style you're locked into using for that game?

Because if so, I could see why you might think that it'd possibly be unfair. In that case both people should be using the same passing method in a game.

But if it's skill based and you have the ability to choose on every play how you pass (on the fly), I don't see how you would think it'd put anyone who chose to use it at a disadvantage. If it isn't working for you and you need to get better at it, then go back to the normal passing method until you can practice and get better at it and then you're back to being on an even playing field with your opponent for that game.

As I said, I'd think a bigger worry would be that those who got good at it would get too good at it and it might unbalance the game if everyone is placing perfect passes all over the field using crappy QBs.

But assuming EA is able to keep ratings involved then that shouldn't happen.

My entire point in a nutshell is passing, as it has been in Madden forever, is not challenging in the slightest. I can take Joe Stave and get him voted in to the Pro Bowl in a 32 man franchise. As a sim player in a sim league, this has been a huge gripe with the game for years.

So if EA decided to change the passing mechanic, hopefully it is to make it more realistic. Which would mean lower rated QBs would have trouble hitting their spots compared to high level QBs. If that were the case it would finally make franchise QBs worth what they should be worth when it comes to trading, salary, etc.

What you are proposing would ruin this for league play. To go back to my previous example; If I were to play with the Browns and start rookie Kizor. I don't like that he is low rated and the new passing mechanic makes him hard to use with a bunch of misfired passes. So I just toggle regular passing and proceed to throw darts to receivers with no regard to route timing and little rating influence. It would ruin balance and it would ruin the value of having an elite QB. Hope that makes sense. I don't care about offline, I don't care about cpu games, I don't care about MUT. 32 man online league play is all I am concerning this with.

[4thQtrStre5S]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

As we know, in M17, the new Zones allowed us to change their type depending on if were shaded over or under, for example, I wonder if Coverage assignments could include more options to change whole zones and maybe even M2M coverages and take a step closer to assigning your fronts and backfield separately ?

[TheBleedingRed21]

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I would love for passing to be very challenging. In my online leagues, guys were trading Andrew Luck for the likes of Jared Goff and having the same same success. That should never be the case and can only pray they make elite qbs relevant again.

[Greenblood60]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

I would love for passing to be very challenging. In my online leagues, guys were trading Andrew Luck for the likes of Jared Goff and having the same same success. That should never be the case and can only pray they make elite qbs relevant again.

When were elite QB's ever relevant ?

[ODogg]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

My entire point in a nutshell is passing, as it has been in Madden forever, is not challenging in the slightest. I can take Joe Stave and get him voted in to the Pro Bowl in a 32 man franchise. As a sim player in a sim league, this has been a huge gripe with the game for years.

So if EA decided to change the passing mechanic, hopefully it is to make it more realistic. Which would mean lower rated QBs would have trouble hitting their spots compared to high level QBs. If that were the case it would finally make franchise QBs worth what they should be worth when it comes to trading, salary, etc.

What you are proposing would ruin this for league play. To go back to my previous example; If I were to play with the Browns and start rookie Kizor. I don't like that he is low rated and the new passing mechanic makes him hard to use with a bunch of misfired passes. So I just toggle regular passing and proceed to throw darts to receivers with no regard to route timing and little rating influence. It would ruin balance and it would ruin the value of having an elite QB. Hope that makes sense. I don't care about offline, I don't care about cpu games, I don't care about MUT. 32 man online league play is all I am concerning this with.

A simple toggle for leagues would fix your issue. I was speaking more to general online games.

[Outkizast]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

When were elite QB's ever relevant ?

QB vision cone

[ODogg]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

QB vision cone

Target passing has the opportunity to do it again. Without that stupid, horrible looking flashlight on the field effect.

[SolidSquid]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

Target passing has the opportunity to do it again. Without that stupid, horrible looking flashlight on the field effect.

I hope for everyone's sake there isn't a big visible target on the field for the new passing system

[adembroski]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

Lots of heated discussion for a feature we don't know anything about:/

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[OhMrHanky]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

Lots of heated discussion for a feature we don't know anything about:/

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Lol. That's the norm around here. [emoji6]. And, I mean, really, that's the point of blogs/forums, anyways, for people who enjoy (or hate) a specific item. Right now, all we've got to go on for madden 18 is back of box, so we chime away when we're bored. Lol. But, I also think it's funny. I was upset last year about the tackle battles for the simple reason that I don't like icons on the field. I turn off all possible displays. Ultimately, once I played the game, I found it to be fairly unobtrusive and a decent gameplay mechanic.


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[timhere1970]

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Personally, I don't want a new passing mechnice that is a stick skills solution to make it harder. I want a passing mechanic based on ratings. I would much rather see them make you go through a progression. Could be the same throw mechanics but not every receiver can be thrown to successfully at all times. Low awareness qb would result in icons lighting up slower. Some qb's take a long time to get from 1st read to second read. If you throw to a guy that is not lit up his awareness would determine his ability to adjust. Elite guys can go through progression quicker. Combine that with accuracy of throws based on ratings and I will be happy.

[reyes the roof]

Re: Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

Personally, I don't want a new passing mechnice that is a stick skills solution to make it harder. I want a passing mechanic based on ratings. I would much rather see them make you go through a progression. Could be the same throw mechanics but not every receiver can be thrown to successfully at all times. Low awareness qb would result in icons lighting up slower. Some qb's take a long time to get from 1st read to second read. If you throw to a guy that is not lit up his awareness would determine his ability to adjust. Elite guys can go through progression quicker. Combine that with accuracy of throws based on ratings and I will be happy.

That's what I want as well. It sounds like maybe this target passing is designed to make it tougher to be accurate, but that doesn't change the fact that once you master that, Tom Brady will play the same as any rookie QB with a high accuracy rating

[StefJoeHalt]

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Lots of heated discussion for a feature we don't know anything about:/

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lol Adem come on u been on both sides of this (customer and Dev) and expect less? Lol


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