Some Madden NFL 18 Game Style Details Revealed - Arcade, Simulation, Competitive

[jfsolo]

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Now that we have separate styles, I don't care what the competitive folks do. My only issue will be when a core gameplay change or implementation has an obvious negative affect on my mode.

For example, the nerfing of QB scrambling from M16 to M17, was a direct result of H2H complaints, and it destroyed the CPU QB's abilities in games vs Users. Hopefully they can now tune separately in a way that doesn't make the CPU brain dead in so many ways.

[jfsolo]

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I know that it's just a simple throwaway line, and that I should just logically take a wait and see approach, but when Rex sends out a tweet that says,

Madden 18. The year of the user.

it makes me feel a bit nervous about User vs CPU gameplay.

[JPBeBeast]

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I know that it's just a simple throwaway line, and that I should just logically take a wait and see approach, but when Rex sends out a tweet that says,



it makes me feel a bit nervous about User vs CPU gameplay.

Saw this tweet a bit ago, extremely troubling imo

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[Rocky]

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Saw this tweet a bit ago, extremely troubling imo

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Its just a tweet but yeah....that doesn't inspire confidence lol.

[StefJoeHalt]

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I know that it's just a simple throwaway line, and that I should just logically take a wait and see approach, but when Rex sends out a tweet that says,







it makes me feel a bit nervous about User vs CPU gameplay.

Can't agree more..this is what worries me about "Simulation Style"..this game is currently toned with HUM vs HUM gameplay only..leaving the CPU Ai severely lacking in several fronts..first and foremost playcalling/playbooks...so as great as it is there will be a sim style game play it's still toned for HUM vs HUM leaving the CPU behind the eight ball. And this statement only reenforces it.


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[jerwoods]

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here is what i would do if i ran EA

1 rem the tagline if u see it on Sundays it will be in the game will my madden vision wouild be NFL 2K5 Meets ncaa14 meets Madden10

2 fumbles snaps random mess ups liquid ratings just HC09
3 every NFL Coaching staff member would be in game even i cant get the real name u can put the real name in CFM
4 i would put real cheerleaders in the game
team sounds for every team
5 team rec retire numbers 90-man roster
6 full custom draft class in cfm only
7 RFA the extra point weekly show
8 weather affects game play + u can change weather
QB wouild run more if they can more trick plays
9 Players demand trades will take less to play for winning teams
10 u wouild play pro bowl
11 super bowl media day + a all new super bowl prestaction with national athem coin toss etc
12 more than 1 Network score bug
13 more than 1 game open
14 better 2 min drill for AI
15 retried coaches help write the AI and CFM mode coaches like parcels dinka giblls levy shannen fisher J Johnson cower billick reeves dungy gruen
GM 'S also wrie CFM like polin cassely ron wolf
16 user can toggle between 32-team cfm or 1 user HC09 syile game play
17 in offline CFM if u want Dallas in gold uniforms make any jere pants socks etc
18 have your draft graded by kpier mayhock mcshey
19 when u break a record it will be knowed

[Americas Team]

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Can't agree more..this is what worries me about "Simulation Style"..this game is currently toned with HUM vs HUM gameplay only..leaving the CPU Ai severely lacking in several fronts..first and foremost playcalling/playbooks...so as great as it is there will be a sim style game play it's still toned for HUM vs HUM leaving the CPU behind the eight ball. And this statement only reenforces it.


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Hopefully Simulation is tuned for HUM vs. CPU.

[StefJoeHalt]

Some Madden NFL 18 Game Style Details Revealed - Arcade, Simulation, Competitive

Hopefully Simulation is tuned for HUM vs. CPU.

You would think..but that doesn't appear to be the case anymore..they haven't adjusted the CPU play calling/playbooks since the star system was introduced..and that is likely cause single player mode isn't the norm anymore..so it adversely effects us single mode players..I have heard many posters here who I respect their opinion and knowledge, who say this game is best played HUM vs HUM..and that is due to they way they (EA) tone the game..and to be fair it isn't just Madden but all games are moving away from single player mode which makes me an old "fart" who only plays that way lol..but maybe I'll get lucky and be wrong but not holding my breath

Edit: in my perfect world..game should be toned by CPU vs CPU..


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[PVarck31]

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I'm not ready to jump off a bridge yet. year of the user doesn't necessarily mean the AI will suck. It could mean a lot of things. I'm just in a wait and see mode.

We should know a lot more in a few weeks.

[ForUntoOblivionSoar∞]

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Sounds like simulation style could be synonymous with normal style. The other two sound like additions and simulation sounds like what we've always had.

I'm near certain that it isn't. We've always had a ratings boost to usered players on every difficulty. I'm pretty sure that will no longer be there in simulation mode.

[CT Pitbull]

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Maybe, just maybe now....

"The Year of the User" means Madden 18 will finally have somewhat of a VIP system like 2k had back in the day. And the AI is going to play like you and learn from your play style, essentially making HUM vs AI now HUM vs AI/HUM.

lol Im trying to talk myself into good thoughts and away from the horrible thoughts that entered my mind when I saw that tweet.

[NDAlum]

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Maybe the year of the user will coordinate people in the same area to actually go outside and play some real football...even flag football...so they can TRULY show their user skillz

[ggsimmonds]

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I don't expect much from the alternate game style settings.

Even before seeing the tweet from Clint, I figured the guys talking about maybe botched snaps making it into the game were barking up the wrong tree.

I highly doubt EA is going to add new animations for any one style of play.

My guess as to what the settings involve, is that it is more than premade slider settings, but nothing mechanic changing. I think a reasonable hope is that the 3 settings alter the range of attributes and their effect on outcomes, and that is where us sim guys can be happy. Not going to add anything new, only modify the variables already present.

For example, assuming QB accuracy slider is the same, a QB with 80 accuracy may miss his mark more than a QB with 90. Whereas on competitive those two QBs may be largely the same, allowing for the two users to dictate the outcome. Also lets say in years past the bottom tier for accuracy was 70 or 75, meaning that there was no actual difference between a QB who had 55 accuracy and one with 70. Maybe now the range will be expanded to cover these scrubs. This would relate to the oft talked about problem of putting kickers on the offensive line.

[roadman]

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Or like Natedog said in the tweet thread, year of the user could mean all the modes are separated, therefore, year of the user.

[DeuceDouglas]

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I don't expect much from the alternate game style settings.

Even before seeing the tweet from Clint, I figured the guys talking about maybe botched snaps making it into the game were barking up the wrong tree.

I highly doubt EA is going to add new animations for any one style of play.

My guess as to what the settings involve, is that it is more than premade slider settings, but nothing mechanic changing. I think a reasonable hope is that the 3 settings alter the range of attributes and their effect on outcomes, and that is where us sim guys can be happy. Not going to add anything new, only modify the variables already present.

For example, assuming QB accuracy slider is the same, a QB with 80 accuracy may miss his mark more than a QB with 90. Whereas on competitive those two QBs may be largely the same, allowing for the two users to dictate the outcome. Also lets say in years past the bottom tier for accuracy was 70 or 75, meaning that there was no actual difference between a QB who had 55 accuracy and one with 70. Maybe now the range will be expanded to cover these scrubs. This would relate to the oft talked about problem of putting kickers on the offensive line.

This is what I'm expecting. Hopefully down the line we can start to see some setting specific implementations but I'm not expecting any this year. There's still some more penalties I'd like to see and then plenty of simulation specific stuff that can be added. And the one thing I'll be looking for and hope they go in-depth with in the EAPlay blogs is going into great detail on exactly how each setting will differ and affect gameplay from 17 from 18. 17 was essentially a hybrid of all three so I want to know exactly what is going to make each setting be different than what it was in 17. I want more than a short blurb about how this setting will play "the most authentic and true to realistic NFL experience to date."