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  • oshighwayman
    Rookie
    • Apr 2016
    • 357

    #1

    What's the best way to stop an opponent who always keeps chasing you with high block?

    there re some people who just constantly will be walking towards u with high block on, always in ur face
    what s the best way to stop them, best strikes, combos, technique?
  • Supreme_Bananas
    Pro
    • Apr 2016
    • 944

    #2
    Re: what s the best way how to stop opponent who always keeo chasing u with high bloc

    I'd like to know too since this is really annoying. Jabs and straights get parried, body kicks do not hitstun and open me up for a 1-2-1-2 to the body, same for leg kicks, and any full on body 1-2 trades I always seem to lose, backdashing and lunging doesn't enable me to get away either

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    • Pappy Knuckles
      LORDTHUNDERBIRD
      • Sep 2004
      • 15966

      #3
      Re: what s the best way how to stop opponent who always keeo chasing u with high bloc

      I don't know any tricks and I don't look for any when I fight. You need to make them respect your stand-up #1. If you're not catching them with anything there's no reason for them to slow down their attack. The feints in this game are awful, but they work well against people who look to parry a ton. It breaks up their rhythm if nothing else. If they're blocking high, go to the body to open them up. I'm not sure what advice to give other than that.

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      • Supreme_Bananas
        Pro
        • Apr 2016
        • 944

        #4
        Re: what s the best way how to stop opponent who always keeo chasing u with high bloc

        Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles
        I don't know any tricks and I don't look for any when I fight. You need to make them respect your stand-up #1. If you're not catching them with anything there's no reason for them to slow down their attack. The feints in this game are awful, but they work well against people who look to parry a ton. It breaks up their rhythm if nothing else. If they're blocking high, go to the body to open them up. I'm not sure what advice to give other than that.
        That's the whole problem. Even if I go for the body I don't hitstun them, I lose exchanges even if we both throw the exact same combo. If I hit them with body kicks they just bulldoze through for some reason

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        • Pappy Knuckles
          LORDTHUNDERBIRD
          • Sep 2004
          • 15966

          #5
          Re: what s the best way how to stop opponent who always keeo chasing u with high bloc

          Originally posted by Supreme_Bananas
          That's the whole problem. Even if I go for the body I don't hitstun them, I lose exchanges even if we both throw the exact same combo. If I hit them with body kicks they just bulldoze through for some reason
          You say that like you're anticipating getting a hit stun every exchange. I don't know if that's the case, but that's not a good way of approaching this game.

          I'll say this, though. I fought a guy the other day where I was Wineland and he was Michael MacDonald, and he beat me to the punch the whole fight no matter what. Wineland's strike was ridiculously slow in comparison. The fighters you're using could have a lot to do with some of these exchanges as well.

          I don't get overwhelmed by strikers very often, though. Hopefully some other people can chime in with better advice than me.

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          • Supreme_Bananas
            Pro
            • Apr 2016
            • 944

            #6
            Re: what s the best way how to stop opponent who always keeo chasing u with high bloc

            Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles
            You say that like you're anticipating getting a hit stun every exchange. I don't know if that's the case, but that's not a good way of approaching this game.

            I'll say this, though. I fought a guy the other day where I was Wineland and he was Michael MacDonald, and he beat me to the punch the whole fight no matter what. Wineland's strike was ridiculously slow in comparison. The fighters you're using could have a lot to do with some of these exchanges as well.

            I don't get overwhelmed by strikers very often, though. Hopefully some other people can chime in with better advice than me.
            Well, I'm mostly talking about UT where everybody (including me) has 100 standup and lvl5 perks/moves, so we should technically be equal in striking, but I very often lose

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            • manliest_Man
              MVP
              • May 2016
              • 1203

              #7
              Re: what s the best way how to stop opponent who always keeo chasing u with high bloc

              1) Directional strikes deal more damage and cause mini-stun. If he is following you as you describe it, try moving sideways then throw a kick from the side you are moving torwards and he is following you at. For Example Left Lead body kick if you are moving Left etc.

              2) Lean a bit then throw a body kick (It deals more damage)

              3) Go to the body with 1 strike then instantly to the head if he trys to hit you after your first strike

              4) If he waits a bit and doesn't let go off the block at your first strike in order to mini-stun you at his first strike (3rd strike of the exchange), you need to play decision and throw 1 strike and move till he gets bored of his style.

              5) Do the fake rear head kick then hit him with the lead head kick (fast faint exchange)

              6) Lunge a lot when you get your back at the cage with the big lunges while holding block

              7) For some reason the game takes into account how fast you input your strikes, so when you throw a combo, if you notice your opponent always ends up 1 hit stunning you while you are mid-throwing a strike animation, then try inputing your combos faster, since they will be more effective. (this rule makes 1-2 jab/straight so OP)

              8) Try throwing small combos in order to not lose a lot of stamina and not having to keep going backwards after every exchange. If you do that, try moving sideways instead of backwards to control the center of the octagon and pressure him back. (If you notice, most people who chase after you, they mainly move sideways to maintain center of the octagon control, which is very favorable from the judges)

              9) Learn your combos, some combos are slower, but some are weirdly fast, for example body jab then a rear crane kick or body rear kick then lead uppercut or straight then an uppercut then straight again or rear body kick, uppercut then crane kick or straight to finish the combo off


              Edit:

              10) If he is predictable with his striking after the block, try parrying. A good tip for always geting the parries, is to hold the block + strike button not just tap it, since the parry window will be longer and you'll be getting better parries.
              Last edited by manliest_Man; 05-24-2017, 05:08 PM.

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              • Supreme_Bananas
                Pro
                • Apr 2016
                • 944

                #8
                Re: what s the best way how to stop opponent who always keeo chasing u with high bloc

                Originally posted by manliest_Man
                1) Directional strikes deal more damage and cause mini-stun. If he is following you as you describe it, try moving sideways then throw a kick from the side you are moving. For Example Left Lead body kick if you are moving Left etc.

                2) Lean a bit then throw a body kick (It deals more damage)

                3) Go to the body with 1 strike then instantly to the head if he trys to hit you after your first strike

                4) If he waits a bit and doesn't let go off the block at your first strike in order to mini-stun you at his first strike (3rd strike of the exchange), you need to play decision and throw 1 strike and move till he gets bored of his style.

                5) Do the fake rear head kick then hit him with the lead head kick (fast faint exchange)

                6) Lunge a lot when you get your back at the cage with the big lunges while holding block

                7) For some reason the game takes into account how fast you input your strikes, so when you throw a combo, if you notice your opponent always ends up 1 hit stunning you while you are mid-throwing a strike animation, then try inputing your combos faster, since they will be more effective. (this rule makes 1-2 jab/straight so OP)

                8) Try throwing small combos in order to not lose a lot of stamina and not having to keep going backwards after every exchange. If you do that, try moving sideways instead of backwards to control the center of the octagon and pressure him back. (If you notice, most people who chase after you, they mainly move sideways to maintain center of the octagon control, which is very favorable from the judges)

                9) Learn your combos, some combos are slower, but some are weirdly fast, for example body jab then a rear crane kick or body rear kick then lead uppercut or straight then an uppercut then straight again or rear body kick, uppercut then crane kick or straight to finish the combo off
                I didn't know a number of these things, I'll test them out, thanks!

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                • Kenetic NRG
                  EA Game Changer
                  • May 2016
                  • 711

                  #9
                  Re: what s the best way how to stop opponent who always keeo chasing u with high bloc

                  Everything Manliest said is perfect.


                  Only thing i'll add.. sway forward and pop a straight uppercut to the body. If you do the sway right the 2 strikes are really quick. From there you could go up high with like an uppercut or you could add a body kick.


                  It is much much easier to hit people if they are coming forward. If they are walking at you just holding high block, you control the action. Hit him before he hits you and ALWAYS circle away from the cage.
                  Last edited by Kenetic NRG; 05-24-2017, 07:31 PM.
                  https://youtu.be/p1Idg-SItm4?t=2377

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                  • JustBlazeM8
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 408

                    #10
                    Re: What's the best way to stop an opponent who always keeps chasing you with high bl

                    Body kicks help me keep distance a lot.
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                    • Dmitri020
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 57

                      #11
                      Re: What's the best way to stop an opponent who always keeps chasing you with high bl

                      Originally posted by oshighwayman
                      there re some people who just constantly will be walking towards u with high block on, always in ur face
                      what s the best way to stop them, best strikes, combos, technique?


                      Just them clinch all dayyy and bully them in the clinch.


                      Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

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                      • Donnie_Brasco_FR
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 572

                        #12
                        Re: What's the best way to stop an opponent who always keeps chasing you with high bl

                        Just chase them or dont back up,
                        Dont give them the opportunity to chase you.

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                        • oshighwayman
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 357

                          #13
                          Re: what s the best way how to stop opponent who always keeo chasing u with high bloc

                          Originally posted by Kenetic NRG
                          Everything Manliest said is perfect.


                          Only thing i'll add.. sway forward and pop a straight uppercut to the body. If you do the sway right the 2 strikes are really quick. From there you could go up high with like an uppercut or you could add a body kick.


                          It is much much easier to hit people if they are coming forward. If they are walking at you just holding high block, you control the action. Hit him before he hits you and ALWAYS circle away from the cage.
                          i have this game from day 1, read some guides on old forum and this one, read patch notes and still i had no idea that mechanics like that (after sway) is in the game O_o , we seriously need more tutorials and game mechanics descriptions, i also discovering sways and its mechanics described other topic on this forum, i didnt really use them because people always end up combos with body roundhouse kicks and i can sway 1,2 and then i will get hit into body with kick

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                          • Haz____
                            Omaewa mou shindeiru
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 4023

                            #14
                            Re: what s the best way how to stop opponent who always keeo chasing u with high bloc

                            Originally posted by oshighwayman
                            i have this game from day 1, read some guides on old forum and this one, read patch notes and still i had no idea that mechanics like that (after sway) is in the game O_o , we seriously need more tutorials and game mechanics descriptions, i also discovering sways and its mechanics described other topic on this forum, i didnt really use them because people always end up combos with body roundhouse kicks and i can sway 1,2 and then i will get hit into body with kick

                            I did my best to try and explain some tips and tricks for headmovemnt here:

                            http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-counter.html]

                            Definitely the most underutilized aspect of the game, but basically what my whole style is centered around.

                            You can set up some nasty counters once you learn a few patterns.
                            PSN: Lord__Hazanko

                            Just an average player, with a passion for Martial Arts & Combat Sports

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                            • Kenetic NRG
                              EA Game Changer
                              • May 2016
                              • 711

                              #15
                              Re: what s the best way how to stop opponent who always keeo chasing u with high bloc

                              Originally posted by Haz____
                              I did my best to try and explain some tips and tricks for headmovemnt here:

                              http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-counter.html]

                              Definitely the most underutilized aspect of the game, but basically what my whole style is centered around.

                              You can set up some nasty counters once you learn a few patterns.
                              Just want to add to be careful. Using sways takes quite a bit of getting use to and you can get completely blasted if you mess up. Be careful and have patience
                              https://youtu.be/p1Idg-SItm4?t=2377

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